Lola Phoenix of Alexandria and Tonyblue - Wednesday, August 17th, 2011: On the Transformation of the Old into the New in Visions and altered states of the human mind
[1:07:51 PM] LolaPhoeniX: Hello dear ...How are you?
[1:08:17 PM] Tonyblue: ok sweetheart
[1:08:22 PM] Tonyblue: how are you?
[1:09:51 PM] LolaPhoeniX: I've missed you all - finished my book :)
[1:10:23 PM] Tonyblue: congrats for that Lola
[1:11:02 PM] LolaPhoeniX: thank you ... new picture I see
[1:11:15 PM] LolaPhoeniX: ;)
[1:13:07 PM] Tonyblue: look who's talking
[1:13:19 PM] Tonyblue: your sexy self above is classy
[1:19:05 PM] LolaPhoeniX: that's right love, the world just has to deal with our "awesomeness" ... you almost cracked a smile there - I'm impressed ... but seriously, I've missed you - how are you getting along with your work - progress?
[1:22:24 PM] Tonyblue: well yes the timeline is moving along and i am just a translator nothing more
[1:22:32 PM] Tonyblue: people misunderstand 'my work'
[1:23:51 PM] LolaPhoeniX: what people? I know you're not talking about me ...yes, timelime ...May 2013 - I think it turns then - am i wrong?
[1:24:39 PM] Tonyblue: it has turned many times already
[1:24:55 PM] Tonyblue: July 10th was potent as will be April 1st, 2012 and as was August 15th and again August 25th this year
[1:28:14 PM] LolaPhoeniX: yes I agree - July was difficult for me - and so I stayed away - last April - horrible for me - by next April - i think so - unrest will spill into this hemisphere by then, i believe - trying to stay positive - maintain optimism - i keep my sorrows silent - so do you
[1:28:34 PM] Tonyblue: yes dear
[1:28:45 PM] Tonyblue: it is too late for teachers and so on
[1:29:01 PM] Tonyblue: its all allowance and self preparation
[1:29:17 PM] Tonyblue: i share my knowledge on the forums and stay detached
[1:36:51 PM] LolaPhoeniX: your words lick me like a puppy.. with such sweetness.. i only found myself.. when i lost every thing i had gained from building it.. and went to the dark of dirt of depression.. and found the quiet still voice of Me.. and even then.. i did not listen.. it was in giving.. that i learned ...not in holding but letting it all go.. and then.. giving more.. loving more.. when i truly had nothing more to give.. i let go of being saved or healed or hope of love.. of anything.. only giving.. more.. no pride at all.. nothing left.. but breath.. moment.. baby steps.. no comfort.. i am pained tired wired always.. all good.. only spir it flows through me.. only flesh and spirit.. human being divine.. as we all are.. simple.. be.. so good to be alive.. now i start to begin.. to love myself.. only just now.. easy to love others.. me.. whew.. that is another story.. another chapter.. but.. baby steps.. i shall learn.. big big lesson..others will too... i love you.. my dearest
[1:37:34 PM] Tonyblue: yes sweety i feel the same
[1:37:52 PM] Tonyblue: this longing for love can be so destructive
[1:38:05 PM] Tonyblue: i have given up on it for the time being
[1:38:26 PM] Tonyblue: like you perhaps; i simply dont 'belong' into this old system any more
[1:39:35 PM] Tonyblue: but our spirits belong here as guiding 'lights' in mindful darkness and such metaphors
[1:39:55 PM] Tonyblue: so WE are indeed PRESENT as a Present can you see the pun?
[1:45:57 PM] LolaPhoeniX: lets talk yes...The dodecahedron, a shape with 12 pentagon faces, can be distorted so that it can be drawn with no lines crossing. In fact any convex polyhedron has this property (loosely ‘convex’ means no dents or spikes). Related is the fact that for convex polyhedra the number of vertices, minus the number of edges, plus the number of faces is always 2. You can draw a cube with no lines crossing - and then make them add up to two... ahhhh the mathematics of love - what if what they call 'Twin Souls' are somewhat like a dodecahedron? passing by, from one life to another and never 'meeting'? what if they aren't meant to meet? what if freedom is bound to gravity and if we cannot beat or bend gravity these souls are destined for sorrow? what if there is no freedom? no understanding? no right brain, left brain unity , and what if nature intended it that way - because the force would be too powerful - the overspill too great?
Aye, a master race...a She/He? a male body with intuition...or perhaps a female body gifted with pragmatism and logic? Men think. Women feel... a master race will KNOW ...this KNOWING...this formula always adding to two - is ahead of us still - mirror still foggy...most are not ready for this concave look at things - for this type of understanding - and yes ...you are the gift I give myself ... dressed in silk, covered in love - for now we wait - in sacrifice and in these bodies - timing is everything - I believe we are God's plan ...
[1:47:34 PM] Tonyblue: Can only agree with your cosmological insights here baby
[1:48:02 PM] Tonyblue: yes much of my work details all of this both science wise and in the ontology of its own metaphysics
[1:49:45 PM] LolaPhoeniX: i am done fighting you see ...with humility comes clarity - I needed the silence - it comforts me
[1:49:53 PM] Tonyblue: yes the Merkabah thread details much of this
[1:50:04 PM] Tonyblue: yes i am in retreat too
[1:50:10 PM] Tonyblue: sitting in my cave
[1:50:34 PM] Tonyblue: 'in love' with my cosmic femme without a 'Body'
[1:52:55 PM] LolaPhoeniX: brilliant!!! and better that way - does not complicate things ...haha ...don't go into too much detail though - i tend to be the jealous type - encoded in my dna 'ya know
[1:53:54 PM] Tonyblue: well my cosmic lover is rather capable to USE your Body to 'make love to' Lola Phoenix
[1:54:26 PM] Tonyblue: its an individualised MM as CJ or female Logos
[1:54:37 PM] Tonyblue: my Maria Infinity remember
[2:01:19 PM] LolaPhoeniX: yes, yes ... well - not opposed to the idea ...any cosmic lover who wants to come in through me and teach me some things is welcomed - I'm a fast learner ... and itching for something new - the old ways bore me - and Tony, the old ways - they simply don't work anymore - our fragile humanity is restless, scared, grasping for what simply isn't there -
The feelings that hurt most, the emotions that sting most, are those that are absurd; the longing for impossible things, precisely because they are impossible; nostalgia for what never was; the desire for what could have been; regret over not being someone else; dissatisfaction with the world’s existence. All these half-tones of the soul’s consciousness create in us a painful landscape, an eternal sunset of what we are
[2:02:30 PM] Tonyblue: yes but the 'Love from the Heart' one feels for others is eternal dear
[2:02:56 PM] Tonyblue: the trouble are the expectations for oneself about the 'Being in bodycontact' with the 'Beloveds'
[2:03:48 PM] Tonyblue: so if we can Love Cosmically (its often called unconditional, but a misnomer imo), then the 'higher self' is becoming more attuned
[2:04:32 PM] Tonyblue: having incarnation in particular morphs is the trouble dear yet meant to transform into a blessing
[2:10:52 PM] LolaPhoeniX: unconditional - the way a dog loves his master - I just don't know how - true that love in the spiritual realm is not as emotional as in 3d reality but my higher self does not speak of love - it speaks of death
[2:11:26 PM] Tonyblue: well yes death of the old is required for the birth of the new
[2:11:49 PM] Tonyblue: see a baby born results the discarding of the placenta
[2:11:55 PM] Tonyblue: its Jesus' Mustard Seed
[2:16:02 PM] LolaPhoeniX: ahhh sweet words again for my troubled mind - this is why I come to you - you remind me of what's important - perspective - i lose perspective - the memories too strong now -
[2:18:14 PM] Tonyblue: well you bring up intelligent questions
[2:18:21 PM] Tonyblue: can i share this?
[2:18:29 PM] Tonyblue: on the forum not on skype
[2:20:11 PM] LolaPhoeniX: yes love you can share - funny we tend to end this way - and Tony unrelated but where did Harry Houdinin die? in what country and how? do you know?
[2:20:31 PM] Tonyblue: no dear but this is on wiki
[2:20:34 PM] Tonyblue: i can find out
[2:21:14 PM] Tonyblue: thanks i make reference to the Platonic Solids thread and give you the links sexy Alexandria
[2:21:27 PM] Tonyblue: i did some recent work on this
[2:21:39 PM] LolaPhoeniX: ok...
[2:22:03 PM] Tonyblue: relating how the body brain frequencies relate to the 'lightbody' as the alpha states of the dreamings
[2:22:51 PM] LolaPhoeniX: wonderful - where is that
[2:22:56 PM] LolaPhoeniX: on your site?
[2:24:09 PM] Tonyblue: yes this link here
[2:24:17 PM] Tonyblue: i will edit later
[2:24:24 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=D9E24033-58EE-41FB-ACF6-CCB1382143C3&lastp=1&id=B520414B-74E8-4A5D-BA59-1AC8B2DB582E
[2:38:08 PM] LolaPhoeniX: I was on a train a few days ago with strangers , I pointed out to this random lady a person that was waving at her but couldn't seem to get her attention. those around saw but the lady could not - those that saw got scared - those that didn't got confused. Meaning, the 'light movement' or new coming or understanding of Christ continues to be delayed - the dark side, as I see it, continues to hold on tighter for control. These changes perhaps should have happened a long time ago - and there are some who are stuck here with this kNOWING waiting - restless - unsure of what to do next -
[2:39:31 PM] Tonyblue: it is rather 'devious' atm Lola
[2:40:13 PM] Tonyblue: It is the memeplexes the Old Thoughtforms of milennia now forced to 'fight' for their own survivals
[2:53:04 PM] LolaPhoeniX: others - seers out there - perhaps labeled - perhaps not - lest called dillusional or crazy - the other day, I had a terrible headache - they come more and more often now - must see doctor - and i went for a walk - i must have started to daydream because in the distance I saw a gate - with the number 9 on it - there was a person - i dont know who - guarding this gate - a portal of sorts - the portal looked like Petra - the man was black - I went up to gate and asked the man to go in - and guess what I asked for???? to give me the ark of the covenant - I don't know what the hell was wrong with me - but suddenly I tripped and the image disappeared so did my headache and i went home
[2:55:35 PM] Tonyblue: what do you mean with Petra here?
[2:59:32 PM] LolaPhoeniX: well, it was as if I were walking in the desert - i saw yemen - I saw myself there - but i have never actually been there - when i was in the region, i was held at customs - detained for 4 hours - was not allowed in...my friend went years later - I told her to visit a beautiful spot in the desert with some beautiful stones - writings and carvings - I remembered those stones in the caves
[2:59:38 PM] LolaPhoeniX: but have never been there
[2:59:46 PM] LolaPhoeniX: she asked how I knew
[2:59:50 PM] Tonyblue: Lola can you send me this pic of yours or give me a link?
[2:59:54 PM] LolaPhoeniX: i told her i saw the info in a book
[2:59:57 PM] LolaPhoeniX: but i did not
[3:00:01 PM] LolaPhoeniX: i just knew
[3:00:21 PM] LolaPhoeniX: something tells me i was BLOCKED from going there
[3:00:33 PM] LolaPhoeniX: not allowed but those who do not wish me to see
[3:00:36 PM] LolaPhoeniX: the visions
[3:00:38 PM] Tonyblue: well all the troubles are there now Middle East, Syria and the overall region
[3:00:47 PM] LolaPhoeniX: they get stronger now
[3:00:47 PM] Tonyblue: these are the memes right there
[3:16:43 PM] LolaPhoeniX: the ark of the covenant is in that cave - a black jewish nomadic tribe took it there - near petra - gate 9 - portal 9 - of 9 portals - i believe ....i went to many countries in mid east - sometimes used fake papers to get in - but there i could not go - stopped for 4 hours - denied - why - who stopped me? memories come in stronger now - headaches too - by i remain optimist - these love and light people - ascension - bs - alien bs - all crap - a bend in time - is the answer - a recycling of sorts - a concave mirror - Shit! the answer for gravity - we are using right or left side of brain - not both - both would mean insanity - we as humans cannot handle that type of understanding - but time is bending - we are heading backwards to a beginning of sorts - You and I came together because we are now almost at the finish - we are as opposite as we are the same - your 'translation' will pay off - the answers you know already - I dont - I feel - I support you - if i reject you - then i reject myself
[3:20:54 PM] Tonyblue: as a rational thinker you might like this video Lola
[3:21:08 PM] Tonyblue: btw i added our pics to this shared thread
[3:22:21 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=198F0EDB-5E5F-4687-AE92-425FE34EC11E&fid=1B99AA8A-3115-4559-8C64-4A80512A5616
[3:22:25 PM] Tonyblue: second page
[3:22:28 PM] LolaPhoeniX: didn't get the video -
[3:22:29 PM] LolaPhoeniX: ok
[3:22:42 PM] LolaPhoeniX: and have you read the gospel of Barnabas?
[3:22:59 PM] LolaPhoeniX: one day - we should talk about it...
[3:23:07 PM] LolaPhoeniX: not tonight - tired
[3:23:13 PM] Tonyblue: Athene's Theory of Everything
[3:23:29 PM] Tonyblue: I then had a discussion about it with Xeia - also posted there
[3:23:52 PM] LolaPhoeniX: ok
[3:24:06 PM] Tonyblue: heared of it, like the gnostic codices, all of those are 'corrupted' except the Gospel of Thomas
[3:24:26 PM] LolaPhoeniX: yes
[3:24:50 PM] Tonyblue: I advise caution with all gnostic 'translations' and this goes for the 'historian experts' as well as the 'believers'
[3:25:09 PM] LolaPhoeniX: ok
[3:25:32 PM] LolaPhoeniX: yes, just finished reading- confused -
[3:25:44 PM] LolaPhoeniX: ok see where you stand - i thought so
[3:26:07 PM] Tonyblue: the commentary with this video should interest you though
[3:26:24 PM] Tonyblue: it is about neurons and the brain and then some correlations
[3:29:06 PM] LolaPhoeniX: alright, thanks.. i will happily take a look - and Xeia - yes, i miss her too - haven't spoken in quite some time - so glad we talked tonight - thank you , you're good for me...good night dear
[3:30:38 PM] Tonyblue: yes i am 'good for you' and many - sweet Lola Alexandria or is it Cleopatra Scorpionis?
[3:30:45 PM] Tonyblue: Buena Noches
[3:33:23 PM] LolaPhoeniX: I find your pet names endearing , and a testament to your kind soul - I am blessed - Buenas Noches