Tonyblue answers:
_Rok_ - Posted 18 Minutes Ago
Questions from an Elite blind man:
Hi Rok; indeed the blindness of literal interpretation not utilizing deeper insights is a great encumbrance to understanding the written word, which is often multileveled in external (for the less discerning and underinformed) and internal (or hidden or occultized) meanings and interpretations.
Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my condolences.
How is that so. By what "law" does this apply. Intent of the word? Cussing at the "divine one" ?
Should we stop at the "bad words" itself and what they are? Is it a problem to say "nigger" or is it the problem in the racist person that said it?
Given the above from the "insider" and my past and also at times current life (this time around) i am here for...a long, loooooooooong, loooooooooooooong time....
It also mentions the "sin". Doing something not in congruence with what is labeled as "divine law" is to be a sin.... This sounds..."troubling"....
If each thought, that may or may not lead into speaking it - word, it instantly manifested on a higher (4th) level of existence and contributes to the whole of what there is regarding this existence we are experiencing....thus there is the "registry" of thoughts with and effects...or to say...a "database" of individual contributions by which once can be properly "rewarded" for doing it?
Just what is said in the above, when a reader reading words, becomes personally and emotionally 'engaged' and beginning the inherent mental 'defence mechanisms' in built in the human DNA, say in the 'fight or flight' response.
The 'elitists' know the 'human response mechanics' rather well; spendiong their lives in analysing and studying human history in minute details and unencumbered by fiscal or 'making a living' restraints.
Words such as 'nigger' or 'sin' or whatever carry connotations in context and the 'casual reader' 'falls for the traps hidden' in the contexts of the words expressed - such as sexism, racism, dogma under whatever label and so on.
You are correct in stating that the 'intent' manifests immediately in a higher dimensional context, where the energy is archetypal, meaning it is symbolic in shapes and geometries, which later can, and at a much slower pace, manifest in material realities.
This 'data base' is indeed the 'repository of every soul' and its intent and superconscious expression noone can escape. From this developed ideas of karma and 'what goes around comes around'!
There is no end of time.
I know 100% sure there is no end time, at least not like it is being portrayed everywhere, be it religion, media, etc.
This place was never meant to end the way it is being described.
There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by
1....work on yourself.
Does this mean 2012 will not be a big bang event? We shall not be devoured by a giant solar flare or some similar "nonsense" ?
Also...1 by 1...step by step...does this imply there will be no such thing as mass ascension from now till the march of 2013 or how is it (not sure about the month). Or will there be the "selected few" while the rest..."move on"? Or does that again depend on the before mentioned "database".
The 2012 event is indeed a higher-dimensional nexus point, which will END the 'imprisonment' of particular thought structures or memeplexes, especially those embodied in the 'holy books', prophecies and all kinds of 'predictions' and visions.
How PHYSICAL this event will become in time, depends on the manner how the collectivity of the human group consciousness responds and processes certain 'trigger events', like the actual higher-D transformation of a golfball sized Black Hole at the center of the terrestrial planet.
This event will not be seen as such, but will result in a RELEASE of the Gaian 'consciousness' manifested and processed since its planetary beginnings in 3D space reality so 4.5 billion years ago.
Q:Hey 13 --I´m not coming back to your planet next time. Smoke on that.
A:What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?
This reminds me on one of my threads way back on AV1...and also a post made in thuban thread....where you Tony somewhat agreed that free will IS...but it is limited...i think it was like that... I would say free will, as we know it, is a new age concept and thus should be reconsidered in full...it just does not add up....given many many things.... Or again...do we go to the "database" concept? While "down here" one is allowed to do what one wants to do...it all gets recorded...and than....there is a "trial" and given ones "contribution" we are to be judged?
You are taking many things this 'insider' states too personal and 'out of context'. He seemingly replied to a great number of 'nonsense questions' and 'statements' at the GLP forum, many of whom are NOT reproduced here. This is stated at a number of places here and the full context can be analysed in following the given link to that site.
Your comments above about 'judgment' and 'trials' and so on are more reflective of particular uncertainties and 'fears' within yourself, than the actual meaning of 'free will' as I would have described it on the Thuban thread.
To recall; 'Free Will' relates to the 'remembrance of yourself' about yourself from the superconscious level of what you truly are. Your 'normal' consciouis state is just so 1 part in 57 or so 1.7% of your 'true self'. Your subconscious is so 12.3%, leaving your superconscious awareness 'hidden' in almost 86% - no wonder people cannot remember themselves.
'Free Will' on your 'superconscious Logos self' is indeed SUBJECT to the master template of the World Logos, the master plan of the Universe itself; its evolvement and path into cosmic history and adventure say.
On your path of remembrance however, the 'Free Will' is coloured by your ignorance and your forgetfulness and so serves a number of purposes besides your own 'remembrance', such as giving feedback to the 'other searchers' and your environments, you are encountering on your journey.
Q:Is Earth a prison?
A:Yes and even worse. The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.
Is this an actual reality/illusion or just a degradation of what is called human existence...trying to give it less meaning and importance that it actually has? Along with labeling with words such as "peasant" and "slave". I wonder...why did the Mr. Elite Insider use insults if he himself/herself is so "high up" and in the service of benevolent beings and law? Also by referring to earth as prison...and people here prisoners...this implies that at "one point in time" something was done wrong and a criminal "colony" was created? What was done wrong? This could also support my "database" concept.
Again, why are you so defensive about words? Should I call you a forgetful boy, sitting in a sandpit, attempting to play with matches to figure out what a fire is; (something I am not contemplating); would you 'get all upset' about my perceived 'superiority' contra your 'inferiority'?
This is termed 'a mental complex' and ignores the very simple concept of 'Mr. Elite' being a single piece of a jigsaw puzzle, say as a tapestry on a cosmic wall and just like you.
Like the 'ascension', which is actually a 'descending' and the 'homecoming'; there will be pioneers, showing the way for others; more adventurous 'souls' or tapestry pieces, who awaken earlier than others. They are however equal 'brothers and sisters' and of no more IMPORTANCE than any other such piece, might this other piece be the president of the United Staes or the gutter sweeper in Calcutta.
It's like a play you are watching as an audience. You are most likely to be part of the audience to be entertained. But you could also be the scriptwriter, the director, the producer or one of the actors.
So the 'Free Will' in this case results in a question, you are asking yourself from the superconscious level of the 86% of the nonremembrance of your superego as a 'divine egocentricity' hidden in your superconsciousness, also often called 'Christ Consciousness'.
The question becomes: What role do I choose to play in participation in the theatre of 'Human Life'? Will it suffice for me to be a spectator, or do i choose to manifest the 'play'?
Your notions on criminal colonies etc, relate to some particular archetypes about the 'Nephilim', the 'fallen angels', the Atlanteans and the Annunaki and 'star wars'; all of whom have become outdated and outmoded by the World Logos, activating the warpzone.
The 'database' is however magnificently appropriate; but not oin the 'New Age' scenario, you seem to be implicating.
The 'prison' colony is actually the dual focalisation of the universe as a 'central sun' requiring its 'mirror'. From this cosmic FACT, evolve concepts such as Nemesis and Nibiru and 'something' visiting the earth to 'reclaim' some ancient heritage and legacy.
The factuality engages the so called Lagrangian Equilibria (Hill Sphere of LP1 in the lexicons of science), situated as a 'Space Bubble', situated so 2 million kilometer from the center of the earth.
At this point in physical terms, the gravity of the focal sun (Rahsol) finds itself in equilibrium with the gravitational pull from the earth (Gaia=Nemesis).
Therefore the origin of the material universe engaged the establishment of a central representative Star, imaged in an 'empty focus' in terms of the Star system, but occupied by a 'Destined Dark Sun', namely Gaia the StarPlanet.
When this representative Star was born from a galactic nebula with its own represenntative Galactic SuperStar (Hunab Ku) so 4.7 billion years ago; the potential for the representative Solar System also became potential physical reality and this manifested a physical planet called Terra for the 'Archetyped Cosmic Mother' termed gaia as the 'Spirit' and the 'Cosmic Consciousness'.
The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber. The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.
I too wondered (yes it can happen) about the strange looking pictures of the big pyramid and that "funny" underground chamber thingy.
So what about the underground chamber?
The 'underground chamber' is very simply the Octagon of this pyramidal shape, say ion mirror imagery or reflection.
Consider the Pyramid to be Half of the Octagon say as seen as the top part of a rainbow the other part being 'hidden' inside the earth, being occultized. This becomes a most dominant symbol for the 'elitists' in the 'Seal of Solomon', being an upper light or white UPWARDS pointing equilateral triangle, coupled with a black DOWNWARDS pointing equilateral triangle and AS the Star of David (Flag of Israel).
Fear is based on physical impulses, the physical is not important.
boogy woogy! How about emotions? Are emotions based on physical impulses? Are emotions irrelevant?
Again, you are overreacting, without deeper thought. The physical is not important in a certain perspective and is superimportant from a similar perspective.
Relative to your 'true self' your physicality is like your wardrobe; you change your attire as you please and even throw something you dont fancy anymore into the fire or the rubbish bin.
Yet relative to your 'grander plan', your embodiment is your raison d'entre for being here in incarnation as primal purpose and aim. Your emotions become the energy realm for you to maximize your learning and self-remembrance patterns.
In particular, your ENERGY of emotionality is metaphysically defined, (the physical brainwave patterns etc, only representing a miniscule effect in say biochemical dynamics of this energy); serving to allow your 'soul' and logos-Logos coupling to synergize the two cosmic modes of frequency modulations in extremum.
This is perhaps more easily understood as the dichotomies between 'mind and body' and 'good and evil' and 'chicken and egg' and such things, scientifically collected in the label of Descartian or Cartesian Dualism.
There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail. If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.
U get the experience of what you think which confirms your thinking? So yes in that case...I am my own enemy...i think i even managed to climb to that point in original thuban thread....just that...it can wonder the mind (yes once again) about...given the society structure and norms...how to bypass that without being drained by it? If for nothing else people have to work. This might sound as a simply every day thing....but it is in fact...an enormous set back for most...the chain of events it can "bring" is infinite...not the tables and date this creates in the "database".
Indeed, you got this 'right' and there is no easy way 'out'. The life in the physical body is basically no more than a kind of imprisonment for the true you' as say a soul of the Creator, who represents very simply the collection of 'All Souls, inclusive of all ETs and lifeforms anyplace and anytime.
Part of the master plan is however to TRANSFORM the mortal 'attire' of the soul into a kind of indestructability, yet retaining the sensual experience of the say, 3D material sensory apparatus - your human form or morphogenetic Gestalt (Rupert Sheldrake). So you might see a grandeur inherent in this m'master plan', which nevertheless will entail much physical suffering and individuated 'despondencies'.
The omni-science for this potential transformation engages the nature of what consciousness is in physical terms and such things, therefore bridging the gap between the 'body' and the 'spirit' in rendering both subject to redefinition and reconfiguration using the Laws of Nature and NOT some supernatural 'New Age' BS.
The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.
Ok so if a divine law puts the individual into the circumstances individual is in...and IF that circumstances consist of a defective environment (more than in generally already is)...so the child is ...purely hypothetical...raised with the F word...and so child itself uses the F word just the same as some other child raised in more "appropriate" environment would use the "hello" word...than the impeccable divine law put that individual into the circumstances that would, be themselves, guarantee that that specific individual would have to live more and more life times by uttering the F word and it is perfectly ok that that is so (given the law)...OR...if the child is not aware of the meaning it does not work like that or it depends on the intent...for which i am sure....child can intuitively fully grasp from its immediate environment (the intent that is...and how it works...the fine mechanics of it). Btw those of you who read this...saying it or writing it is like thinking it...according to Mr. Elite Insider....you are up for at least one more life. Condolences...
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the database can be applied here as well
I agree here; the 'Insider' is displaying his 'human judgmental nature' contrary to his 'better knowing'. However what he is inferring with his 'judgmental statements', is that the 'part of the creator soul experiencing whatever; is doing this on behalf of the superconsciousness. This does however not imply, that the 'evil deeds' and such are simply part of a cosmic necessity to Experience for the Worldsoul (say of God).
Rather is serves a very particular and important purpose, namely to manifest a repository data base of the POTENTIAL for 'EVIL=LIVE' for the entire Cosmic family in the Universe to consider and cherish as a information about the Cosnsequences of those selfsame 'evil deeds' and the suffering it causes FOR the Worldsoul.
In other words, because the Worldsoul experiences THROUGH the 'evil and the good'; and because the World-Soul is scattered and dispersed throughout the universe, however using Gaia as the 'Mother Experience'; all of the cosmic family can SHARE in the Gaian Experience of the 'Good and Evil' Dichotomy, but WITHOUT having to experience the physical suffering and 'bad' consequences of the 'evil activities'.
So imagine an ET evolved sentience learning (say in watching a film or video broadcast on some ET channel and computer screen of history recall) about the history of this 'Motherplanet' Gaia; where the forgetful ancestors of the ET student waged 'war' against each other as nations or as families and clans and as individuals; shot and threw atom bombs at each other; committed all sorts of atrocities, against the 'cosmic law' in killing and harming and abusing each other in countless methods and activities.
This Extraterrestrial descendant of the human supergenome of the 'emotional energy potential' will quickly learn how NOT to BE a galactic and extragalactic civilisation.
The Divine Law is the manifestation of the Will of the Superior One which not only creates everything that exists within this universe but also maintains, nourishes, balances, energises and renews it.
It also reigns in other realms, including the realm you originally belong to.
Ok...so there are superior beings....and "naive" me thinking that all existence is equally important with no "betters" and "leasers"?
What is the realm we originally belonged to? Why are we not there anymore? Who i am superior to and who am i inferior to? Also..so if i do good (good as defined by the superior) i can than advance on the hierarchy? What are the hierarchy levels?
We are the 'Ancient Ones' on the soul level; just as Alex Collier claims. We are the 'Dragons of Thuban'; all of us, all human incarnates anyplace and anytime; all the 'evil ones' and all the 'good ones'.
The royal blood is all of us, not only the 'elitists' and the 'royals' and the 'aristocrats'. This is the 'Dragon Blood', the Elders of the Elders; all forgotten by all ETs NOT incarnated upon Gaia. The difference between the 'insiders' and the 'outsiders' and the 'rulers' and the 'masses' is not birthright, as the 'Insider' wrongly claims, but correctly 'self corrects'; but remembrance and intent of the human mindfulness.
The elitists have access to the database collected by the human history and they have 'shaped' this history to serve their own 'remembrance' of being of royal cosmic blood. So it becomes a question of KNOWING this history.
The global elite is basically aristocratic in terms of birthright. They consider themselves as the REAL inheritors of the archetypical promises and encodings. They KNOW that the master key is the 'Gospel of Thomas' and the prophetic books in all sorts of scriptures, but predominantly the Christian Bible. They consider themselves the 'Bloodline of David and Solomon' and so they consider themselves the successors of the Lion of Judah (incarnated as the World Logos in a simple man of remembrance named Jesus of Nazareth).
They KNOW, that the scriptures WILL and MUST be fulfilled in the 'Cosmic Law', the 'Insider' is hinting at. They so attempt with all their might to 'forestall' and preemt any ET invasion, as you can ascertain in the V-TV-Series and fear-mongering movies like 'Independence Day' and '2012'.
Perhaps you can now see why this present time is so 'secular' and why all sorts of 'prophecies' etc are DEBUNKED, even by the mainstream 'New Age'. The 'great falling away' is from the KEY to manifest the 'Great Rebirth of a New Virgin Universe'; say as the New Heaven and Earth of Revelation - the 'New Jerusalem' as a City of God, descending from the 'New Heaven'.
The'aristocratic royal bloodline' takes all of this 'debunked' and mainstream ridiculed material VERY serious indeed.
However, despite all their cunning and ingeniousness; they could NOT hitherto decipher the details of the 'warptimes', though they understand rather well that the 'warpzone' of the 'last days' are indeed upon the Gaian populace.
And of course, due to their 'self-importance'; the 'elitists' have misinterpreted the archetypical and symbolic 'encoded' masterplan' of the 'Word of the Logos', who did compose this plan as a template through the 'prophets' and wisdom keepers, who became say empowered to compose those things by the 'Logos frequency' aka the 'Love of God'.
Furthermore of course, the 'behaviour' and activity of the 'royal elite' is necessity for the 'Grand Plan' to manifest the maximum polarisation and dichotomy to accelerate the 'emotional groupmind' of the Gaian planetary consciousness to its nexus completion; comprised of required stages of 'Insemination'; 'Gestation-Pregnancy'; 'Birth' and 'Weaning' of the Virgin Cosmos - then retemplated as a 'New Earth Gaia' and a reconfigured Cosmoloical
Evolution.
Only Gaian incarnation into the Imprisonment of the Human mortal bodyform qualifies any ET to aspire to the Elderness of the 'Ancient Cocreators'.
Therefore you can perhaps discern, that most, if not all humans must be Extraterrestrials in 'disguise'. So where do you come from?Can you begin to IMAGINE yourself to have come from 'outer space'.
If you can IMAGINE, then you might be able to IMAGE yourself holographically and CREATE yourself as an ET from Outer Space as being simultaneously from your 'Inner Space'
These kind of 'perceptions' are what the 'elitists' KNOW about and continually entertain in their PARTIAL remembrances.
So they wish NOT to share this knowledge with their 'subordinate workers' and so the mainstream media and 'official learning channels' are utilized to ridicule and debunk this kind of 'grandiose thinking patterns and modalities'.
Those kinds of thoughtforms must remain 'secret and sequestered' as the priviledge of the real metaphysical and spiritual 'ruling class'.
This is when "malicious" beings are present:
Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.
"Malicious" beings are from this realm, this is their home.
You cannot hate them for they are doing their task, their rightful duty and it is connected to your behaviour....understand, you are the perpetrator, they react.
They never instigate, you do.
I type "malicious" because they are not malicious, they only appear to you in your manufactured perception to be so.
People are perpetrators who play the victim part.
By the LIGHT! This just shatters it all, doesn't it? Do not even know where to start here...SO...i will not start at all. Maybe later.
Yes, you should indeed think long and deeply, before jumping to conclusions.
The 'negative' entities are your 'Inner Space' also mirrored in your 'Outer Space'; perhaps you can understand this and then deduce that the 'evil ETs' and the 'deviates', sexual and otherwise are related to the 'Greater Agenda' of HARMONIZING the animal and 'evil' instincts with their gander self expressions.
So indeed; YOU and YOU alone are the 'Perpetrator' of everything that exists under the Cosmoc Sun of the 'Prime Creator' Collective.
So can you then 'Live' by the Grander Motto of the Logos: "To the Pure All Things are Pure!"?
Titus1:
14Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
15Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
you must know yourself and what this place is
let us all contemplate this in silence....i ll do it to...after i move to me moon ......no silence here....
Real conciousness is what is provided to you when you are in tune with the Mind of the Universe
The so called super light..the original thought?
Yes, you could call it that and the Quantum Energy which is the foundation of the universe in an awakening selfstate of beingness.
And...i am out of time...came to "Do you have any connection with the Annunaki that the Sumerians wrote of?" part today.
Yes and as much 'connection' as you yourself exhibit.
Thank you for your questions; I hope to have answered them appropriately.
Tonyblue