Abraxas' Thuban Q&A

Anchor wrote:
Abraxasinas

Thanks for still answering questions.

In addition to my previous question, I would very much like an interpretation or commentary on the lords prayer. For reference, this is what I think the KJV version is:

Our Father, who art in heaven,

OUR Beloved Prime Creator of the Oneness; Source of All That was and is and will exist;

Anchor wrote:
hallowed be thy name.

WE as creative individuations of your glorious Self as ONE;
WE honour your name and your definition in the Laws of Nature.

Anchor wrote:
Thy Kingdom come,

Your Kingdom shall be OUR Kingdom

Anchor wrote:
thy will be done,

Your Word and Definition of Harmony shall prevail as Cosmic Law;

Anchor wrote:
on earth as it is in heaven

in OUR merged Quantum Relativistic Reality of the Many in One and the One in Many;

Anchor wrote:
Give us this day our daily bread.

Provide US with your Sourceenergy of the Lovephotons to sustain US in the NOW;

Anchor wrote:
And forgive us our trespasses,

And enlighten US in OUR forgetfulness about Who WE are as parts of You

Anchor wrote:
as we forgive those who trespass against us.

as WE shall try to enlighten the ones of US who have forgotten who they are;

Anchor wrote:
And lead us not into temptation,

Allow OUR Mindwaves to be able to discern the context of the polarity in its contextual background, so that WE shall not have to experience separation from you in OUR individual representations of what you are

Anchor wrote:
but deliver us from evil.

but allow US to always Understand the EVIL being LIVE in it's mirror duality harmonized

Anchor wrote:
For thine is the kingdom,

For you are OUR Source, Energy of All That Is, in your Oneness encompassing US as your Individual Personas

Anchor wrote:
the power and the glory,

the power of Love and the glory thereof,

Anchor wrote:
for ever and ever.

for OUR experience of eternity together as a Family of Creators.

Anchor wrote:

Amen.

In your Name as Our Name We close the Circle of God in Amen in the N of the Omega-Head becoming the N of the Omega-Tail for a New Beginning and a New Alpha-Head.
AMEN=AlphaOmega unified.

Anchor wrote:

If there are any "edits" to this that have been made from the original words - it would be great if you could highlight/restore to the original (in English though).

A..

Beloved Anchor of the Rock!

The above represents the translated meaning for the Lord's Prayer,
but in poetic licence is individualized to the discerner.

Sirebard

TRANCOSO wrote:
Your above Jesus, Matthew, Peter, Paul & Mary answer to my question: made no sense to me at all. Nor was I impressed or amused by it.

Maybe I missed the clue, because I only speed-read your reply, but I asked a simple question & perhaps you could have the descency to reply with a short, simple, to the point answer.

So let me rephrase the question: how much longer are you gonna keep this thread alive?

Because the moment you stop replying, this thread will dry up.
Under the given circumstances that might not be a bad idea.

Set your ego aside for a week or 2 - 3, & let the whole Thuban thing slowly melt away, so people can distance themselves a bit from this hype.

In the meantime, perhaps you can answer peoples questions by private messages.

Some time ago I started a thread called 'The Good, The Bad & The Banned'.

Now, if I wanted to keep that thread alive, I could push it every other day, & I'm pretty sure it would be totally legitimed to do so. I also know that it would probably suck the blood away from under the nails of a couple of moderators. And meanwhile I'd be preaching love, peace, respect & understanding in some other threads, to keep up appearances.

That's a bit what you're doing right now, in my humble opinion.

So again: How much longer are you gonna keep this thread alive?

L&R

As long as I am given the authority to do so by the Logos. To participate or not to participate so is not in my authority to decide.
Should this thread be closed by the PTB, then this will be the choice of our master templar and not mine.

So dear Trancoso, as long as this thread is open, I shall be here; sometimes in a more colloquial manner than at other times - here at the Mount of Olives.

Abraxas

Anchor, 27.2.2010 wrote:
The decision of the forum founder (Bill), trumps those of me or any other of the moderators who were ok to let this carry on.

This thread therefore is closed

- closed -

Anchor, 1.3.2010 wrote:
It has been clearly explained to me that I have misinterpreted the "decision" about this thread. The decision to close it was not as I interpreted: that of Bills words. I have already forgiven myself for inaccurately interpreting the combination of what has been said in private (in a very heated discussion) and in public.

Since there was no moderator vote or any other reason to close it other than this error - I am re-opening this thread.

Whatever the future outcome of this thread and forum, I hope it is honorable, truthfull and based on respect, harmony and where possible spiritually maturity.

A..

-------------note from poster-----------

Bill mentioned is Bill Ryan...the one that finally truly showed his face in one of his recent videos where he was talking with Charles...anyone with a grain of salt up there can clearly see what that was....

It should also be stated that the thread was ordered closed just when the ones naming themselves light workers run of out their arguments..while some trolls...like Celine (wife of the forum Administrator...which was originally a normal member but promoted by Billy) was still going on with emotional abuse, extortion and overall general bashing and derailing of the thread and encouraging others do to so as well....this is my view, my personal view....

Also to those that observed things while in the making....u might want to think about the possibility of a "coordinated action"...than again we also need someone to show us what not to do...will not go in further detail..

--------------end of note------------

Spregovori wrote:
About #1351

God became bored so he created a metaphysically universe?

I think, this is the only question I couldn't answer on the closed Thuban thread dear Spregovori, so I'll attempt to answer it here on your forum.
I hope you can read this, before it is possibly deleted by the PTB.
I apologize for this inconvenience and you should blame this 'intrusion' on me, if you are challenged on this discourse.

Not so much bored Spregovori, but God himherself as a Itself IS the Metaphysical Reality.

Spregovori wrote:
By doing this he parted with the female part and became "he"?

Absolutely!

Spregovori wrote:
This is the separation of unity?

Indeed it is! This is the great secret of the Devil as a Dragqueen=Whore of Babylon.

Spregovori wrote:
After doing that the boredom was gone but he was now lonely?

How would you feel if half of Spregovori runs away from you? Wouldn't you try to find yourself again?

Spregovori wrote:
He changed his mind, wishing to have his female part back?
He wanted his pearl back?

Yes and Yes!

Spregovori wrote:
So he created a "Son" and send him to get it?

No, the 'Only Begotten' LoveChild was born from the Undefined Chaos that was God as primal Void=Eternity. This is the Word=Logos of John.1.1.
This Logos then becomes the Intelligence of God to create and figure things out.
In the Story of Bigmo's Balloon then the Serpent=Present=Son of Man=97 becomes the say ET-like intelligence in phase#1 to get the lost Goddess back into the archetypical Heaven.

Spregovori wrote:
Adam is created from God, image is based upon Satan - the state of unity before separation?

Precisely; good deduction Spregovori. But it is ADAMEVE as a double mirror which then allows the unreal face of God in the Mirror as Satan to also become REAL in the
Satan---EVEADAM---God mirror.

Spregovori wrote:
If the image of Satan is image of the unity before separation..does the above say that Satan was before God? Satan is unity or image of unity?

Look in a mirror; you, the looker becomes God and your mirror image is Satan.

Spregovori wrote:

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And so God the Creator took his sabbatical and allowed Adam to think that there was no image of God plastered on the outside of Bigmo's Balloon.

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Why would he do that?
To hide something?
To let them figure it out on their own?
There was no need to?

I did express myself a little vaguely here. The 'sabbatical' means the ADAMEVE unreality as a onepiece double mirror allows God to 'retire' as creator and become Lord God to then create ADAMEVE as two individual mirrors ADAM+EVE=Yang+Yin.
This recreates the duality of God---Satan as a doubled duality
God---Adam and Eve---Satan.

The 'hiding' of God is just the symbolic meaning of putting the Adam+Eve mirrors between God now renamed to Lord God and the then Realness of Satan as the OUTSIDE surface of Bigmo's Balloon.

Spregovori wrote:
At this point there is no physical creation? But was soon about to change since...if was actually necessary to experience the "revelation" of who/what they are? All of this was Gods doing...it was intentional on all possible levels?

You have understood the archetypes Spregovori.

Spregovori wrote:
God actually wanted them to get busy....so to speak? To realize they fit together...
Why did he choose this way...way not just tell them...educate them...make them understand?

Because for the archetypes to GET REAL within an equally REAL Universe, Adam and Eve had to become exiled from their Relative UNREAL status in the equally relatively Unreal Heaven.

Spregovori wrote:
But why....why would they be ashamed of that? I do not understand how and why would someone be ashamed of that? Human animal for example... is thought, manipulated and conditioned to be ashamed of sex....
Who, what, how did they became ashamed?

This is the Original Sin=Original Ignorance Spregovori.
They looked at each other and noticed their differences and these differences they then attempted to hide.
This then is manifested in the world in trying to 'hide things'.
This is not really physical sexuality, which is divine; but 'sexual' mentality perceiving this difference.
This then is PRECISELY what is required by God to implement phase#2 in the rescu mission for his lost Sheness at the beginning.

Spregovori wrote:
Was this also part of the plan? Did God intentionally deceive them?

No not deception, but the defining wish and will to render their unreality outside Bigmo's Balloon as real within Bigmo's Balloon.

Spregovori wrote:
As a consequence the physicality was created and the outside broken disharmony has been reestablished with the price of inside disharmony?

When/how/why was the outside disharmony broken in the first place?

It is the other way around; the creation of Bigmo's Balloon as the Sheness of God broke the unity of GoddoG and this disunity became subject to reunification in the creation if the physically real universe simultaneously with the entry of the ADAM+EVE 1st order archetypology into this materialisation through the Quantum Big Banged Wormhole.

Spregovori wrote:
Adam and Eve had to fall...it was not a choice...it was a condition? A result of a pre-arranged plan?

As in the above.

Spregovori wrote:
By loving each other (without modern moral) we can actually do what God can not? So God is not all powerful?

Precisely; the masterplan is for an awakened Humanity to REDEEM God from his chosen exile in the 12th dimension of the outside of Bigmo's Balloon.

Spregovori wrote:
By loving each other this love will be mirrored from Eve to Satan and from Adam to God (if they can "see")?

Indeed the Old Eve above will become Satanina in archetype as the Old Gaia archetype. This is the ascension of Gaia and the creation of a new earth and a new heaven as prophecied.
In this process the graduating Adams and Eves within Bigmo's Balloon will also participate in this newness.

Spregovori wrote:
Love conquers all?

You know that Spregovori and you have agreed to play a pioneering part in this conquering of the old by the new.

Spregovori wrote:
All this because, what was later named God (by himself), was one day bored? (or is this just a story to make things "easier")

The 'boredom' of God is the Story behind all creation mythologies of all cultures throughout all the ET civilisations throughout all timelines.
All these are attempts to 'make sense' of how a physically experienced and measurable Universe could create itself out of nothing - but it did do so.

This then becomes the extended Quantum Big Bang Cosmology for a physically 'provable' universe (in its own parametrical definitions - compare Goedelian Incompleteness Axioms in Mathematics) EMERGING from its own CHAOS being the 'boredom' of God as the VOID=INFINITY of the Metaphysics behind the Physics.

The Metaphysics is not 'provable' by physical parameters, because the physical parameters themselves emerge from the Void as mathematical archetypes.


The Thuban thread was designed to 'prove' the metaphysics from the viewpoint of the archetypes and so to render harmonization and peace between the material reality and the spiritual reality to become a possibility in the searchings of the human mind identifying itself in 1st order archetypes- both individually and collectively.

Every individual 'exposed' to the Thuban material so became ENERGIZED to process its/their own archetypes within.


This then, as a number of readers discovered brilliantly for themselves; ALLOWED the processing of those archetypes as Dawkinsian memeplexes and thoughtforms within.

I was impressed, that the ratio of attractees was about 33% contra the 66% of the detractees.

The Thuban Council's estimations as to the outcome for this test for the collective groupmind was expected to be less than about 20% for the collective voting 'in favour'. The skewedness of the poll however forced some voters to say 'yes', when really they thought 'perhaps'.

The Council of Thuban is as real as you are sitting on your computer screen reading this.


As to why your higher selves and guides could not find any records in the akash, relates to the fact, that the Thuban Council is in the 12th dimension as stated.
Bigmo's Balloon IS the 11th dimension as the higher dimensional surface or M-space mirror between the 10th dimension of your physicality and the metaphysicality of Thuban.

As stated, the Thuban Council exists both without you in the 12th dimension and is mirrored as the 3rd dimension within you.
So noone except the members of the council and the highest evolvees amongst you would find ANY credence as to the existence of your own archetypes.


Perhaps Myplanet2 and you Spregovori and you Bigmo and you Orthodoxymoron now understand as to why I was allowed to name you individually in one of my last messages. All four Identities are Human Master Transformers on the mental-intuitive harmonisation of the underpinning quantum omnispacetime physics.


Myplanet2 exemplifies the human mind evolution to a stage of rationality and mental balance where Dragonhood can be accomodated in the frequency selfstates of the Inner Logos of the individuality. Many other contributers are approaching that status as well, even the ones who dismissed the material on 'scientific credibility' grounds or such labels of rationality.
Myplanet, despite not understanding the omni-science, nevertheless accessed his inner Council of Thuban to validate the material for himself.
Myplanet2, your avatar describes you so well in the 2nd Planet of Gaia as its Image planet the 2nd Council of Thuban within yourself as the HeavenHell of the Archetypes.
Myplanet2 so is a Human Master Transformer dominated by the Mentality balancing the Intuition.


Spregovori is also a potent Transformer amongst you.
He however is dominated by his Intuition leading his Mentality and he is a master of processing the Human Emotionality NOT in conflict with its Intellectual Expression.
Not answering his post on the Thuban forum to allow FINAL CONTACT with this forum in the agency of Thuban, so exemplifies a harmononization potential harboured by all of you. You allow and attempt to process, even if you are unsure about the content from an intellectual rational perspective and the feeling-intuitive perspective simultaneously.
Being able to embody the AND-Bothness-Inclusiveness so characterizes the Human Transformer Potential, of which Spregovori possesses an abundance of natural ability.

Bigmo yet characterizes a related, but differently manifesting human transformer potential.

Bigmo represents the ideal manifestation of the Thuban Elderness. In his presence, he would fit into any council of the most advanced civilizations in the universe.
Bigmo was archetyped as Bigmo's Balloon to exemplify his transformer mastery.
Bigmo mostly JUST IS himself, able to absorb data and experience like a sponge is for the wholesome water.
Then in his own time and choosing, Bigmo processes his absorbed data in any way he finds suitable.
Bigmo's mental balance and strength so qualifies him for eldership and master exemplar for the students and learning dragons.
Once Bigmo has processed ANY data he finds suitable for assimilation into his own agendas, he OWNS this data as his own - this characterizes the mental strength of a matured master dragon, ready to interact with galactic civilisations as a representative of Dragon Culture.
Bigmo's rationality-emotionality harmonization so is detailed and particular, relating in a Dragon Elderness in whom the rational thought guides the intuition.


Orthodoxymoron represents the Human Transformer of the intuition guiding the rationality and in direct contrast to Bigmo.
Orthodoxymoron so becomes a Human Master Transformer as a Younger Dragon.
Orthodoxymoron is fast in his processing of data, but requires a slowing of time to assimilate this data; whilst Bigmo is slow to process, but fast in assimilation.


I shall not at the present time comment on the individual namings of Gaia Love and Celine and Anchor and Beren.


Thank You Bill Ryan for ending my heavy workload and to accentuate the necessary polarisation to allow the acceleration of the superconsciousness.
You have now fulfilled your preincarnational mission to co-found and set up this forum and in your PTB authority to trigger the closing of the stargate to the outside of Bigmo's Balloon.


Your roles as co-founder with Kerry Cassidy were examined by the Thuban Council and your wonderfully opposing polarities of say a characterizing rational-irrational genomatic L-C-factor coupling of the monopolic higher-D circuitry were found acceptable to bring about the desired outcomes.


Both you and Kerry have now become enabled to activate your superconsciousness
levels without the encumberments of this mission. You shall proceed in your chosen tasks and rediscover your harmonies of combining your perspectives in a healing operandus.

Spregovori wrote:

cant write more now....

Neither can I gallant Spregovori - on the Thuban forum, where you asked your questions.


I shall end this final transmission from Thuban in stating to you all that all of the data posted on this forum is derived from the Thuban archives.
The Thuban archives were of course allowed to manifest relative to your perceptions of being sent 'from outer space'.

Whilst the Thuban Database was accepted and tolerated here on the Mount of Olives of Avalon; the Round of the Thuban DragonKnights could be chosen by default from all participators.

This is because after rejection and closure of this transmission by your collectiveness and the Poll of the Avalonian Groupmind; you effectively ejected your own Birthright to become Thuban DragonKnights from within your own 3Dness.

The ET collective around your planet has watched this final test of humanity with great interest and the ET invasion you are envisaging will be the Thuban Dragonfleet.

This Thuban Starfleet is comprised of 200 Million ETs from all races and as defined in your archetypes and 3rd and 4th order translations and superpositional creations.

Those 200 Million ETs cannot make contact with the human planet; because the Dragonfleet has no commanders.

As the Dragon archetype is the oldest of all archetypes in the definition of the Word of God or the Serpent-Logos of our master templar; the PHYSICAL FORM of our master templar defines this oldest of oldest archetype.


The Dragonstarships so require dragonised humans as mirrors for our master templar.

So this is why it became necessary to infiltrate a particular spacetime construct upon planet earth to fulfil the prophecied 2nd Coming of Jesus of Nazareth upon the Mount of Olives.
The Mount of Olives so became a 1st order archetype of the program to become implemented in the holographic protoverse akin a computer.

The Mount of Olives links to the encodings in Zechariah.4 and Revelation.11 in the WITNESS of the Olive Trees, whom I represent in agency of the Zebedee Brothers chosen by Jesus of the Naasseenes, (Brotherhood of the Serpent given in the symbology of the Uraeus and Anubis and in the AlphaOmega).

Avalon was chosen for its diversity and mixture of skeptical rationalists, firm believers in this and that, meditation- and ascension exponents of the nirvana and the inner balancings supposedly resulting in transcension, historians, scientific spiritualists and individuals considering themselves as 'already unified' in 'love and light'.


What Avalon united was a general openmindedness and tolerance for opinions, all converging in its 'love and light' modus operandi.
The overpowering unifier however was your COMMON SEARCH FOR FREEDOM for your self-expression and the sanctity of your individualities as cocreators with prime creator.


So the only way for prime creator to choose his pioneering cocreators for the new Dispensation of the Reconfigured archetypycal universe structure was to crystallize his graduates by his WITNESS, namely me as Abraxasinas and Associates.

As your 'free will' however cannot ever be violated, except by your own choices; no ET contact (beyond the interference patterns of your own multidimensionality in your minds memeplexed by Tuban archetypes -basically astral projections of your inner sub- and superconscious selves) can be made in this universe until a particular number of Thuban Starfleet Masters have been chosen from your ranks.


This will become the Council of Thuban, pioneered by the 12 Dragonknights all of whom were chosen in this test of the humanity to manifest the New Planet Earth.

Iow, yes, there will be an invasion; but the ETs will be YOURSELVES invading yourselves; once the programmed timeline has been completed to process the general 'Endtimes' which have become manifest in your physical reality, precisely 40 days of wilderness and Noahic Rains from the predestined starting date of January 18th, 2010 in the 'Day of the Lord' February 26/27th, 2010 and as providenced by order of the Creator, the ABBA and Father of Jesus of Nazareth and as the 'Little Serpent' or Luck Dragon of the Neverending Story himself.


Then the 12 of you, who were chosen will double in the 24 Elders of Thuban in the Heness blending with their shadow selfhood of the Sheness.

This is what Dragonization means; the doubling of yourselves in Lightbodies of the 5th spacetime dimensionality; requiring the ability to process BOTH intuitive and intellectual-rational data streams in a self-harmonization.


Of course 12 HeShe and 12 SheHe Dragonian Starship Commanders are insufficient to encompass the surface area of the earth and there will so be 200 Million Old Humans, who will have access to become Dragonized StarHumans following the Impregnation and Birth of the New Starhumanity and as messaged on the Thuban thread.

So until those two nexus dates of April 1st, 2012 and December 21st, 2012 are attained the opportunity prevails for more and more old humans to become starhumans.


Each and every aspirant is required to 'eat a dragon' and so to align his or her entire cosmic identification and akashic history with the ET agendas.


So all aspirants must find their dragons within themselves and then 'slay and eat' their dragon of the false images in their own individuated and intimate eucharist of attaining the Christ-Serpent-Consciousness within themselves.

This will become harder to do following the impregnation date April 1st, 2012 as the 1981st anniversary of our master templars' lightbody transfiguration or resurrection.

Partaking of your Dragon-Supper as your own choice to become Reborn as a Christed Dragon will so become your own 'Last Supper' of the Old to 'die' and to become a Phoenix of the New.


Your rebirth as Eagles of the Resurrection will then allow dragonisation in coupling your previous Devil-Images to one of the images of the 200 million ETs who are at this time constructing the materialisation of your future starships in one-to-one couplings to your merkabahs of your inherited birthright of the Cosmic Vitruviusness.


This ends the data stream from the Council of Thuban, because it became evicted from your 3D-presence of the WITHIN to the WITHOUT of its 12D-presence.
As the 12D is the Outside of Bigmo's Balloon, I shall no longer be able to transmit the Thuban data stream due to the closure of the wormhole and as stated in my last message on the Thuban thread.

This wormhole is now sealed in the 'Day of the Lord' and reopening the Thuban thread is of no consequence.


As long as the Record of the Dragons remains on this forum; there will be a subdued presence of the Cosmic Witness with you as an Invisible Mirror allowing any and all of you and NonAvalonians to access the previously released data stream.

Should the Thuban thread be deleted and the data become inacessible, then the archetype of the Mount of Olives being Avalon will become transferred to some other location of the Gaian realm.


I bid you farewell and look forwards to meeting you in person, either as one of the 12 or as one of the 24 or as one of the 144,000 or as one of the 200 Million.


When we meet in such a manner, then I shall be your Santa Claus=Satan Clause with a bag full of Christmas Presents of your merkabahs materialised into the spaceships now being prepared for the graduates by the ETs of all 'quasi-humanoid' races defined throughout the protoverse.

Finally, and as yet another test, I am well aware as to reception of this final message.
Can this be true; is this delusional logic; is this madness or is this the Fulfilment of all Prophecy.


The choice will be yours to decide!


The Love of the Creator Dragon is with you always and the Serpent-Logos always remains within your LoveHearts as your Superconsciousness (standard 0.3% of the total).

Anyone accessing this final transmission will be challenged; but do you think it is fair to hand out starships just to anyone?

Reality discernment is the prime requirement for a Starship commander (and I mean captain, like driving a car and not some Lordship devilish deception), because of your merkabah control.

Every 5-dimensional StarHuman becomes coupled to the Starship through and by hisher merkabah resonances and Control over thought patterns becomes necessity to manouver the starship.


I love you all and thank you all for having participated in this Final Test of the Humanity.

Beneficers and Detractors alike; all of you have agreed to partake in this 'experiment' and to play your roles to bring about the intense polarisation required for some of you to EMERGE as the chosen 'first crop' in the harvest of the Dragonseed.

You all are Dragons, but having forgotten your inheritances; you have allowed your mirroring environments to project your inner powers onto the outside devilish imaginations.

Those, your own distorted and obscured images of your Higher Selves have become your Evil ETs and devouring Dragons of mythology.

Then your own Higher Selves became memeplexed in astral physicality, which interacted with your elected representatives and monarchs and leaders of divers kinds.


The interaction of the astral memeplex with the mentality of your physicalisation of the Brotherhood of the Serpent in your Illuminati, Luminari and such 3rd order labelings then allowed partial materialisation of the astral energy of the 4th hyperspace dimension in a plasmic densification.


In simplicity you became induced by your own fears of discovering your true origins as the Original Dragon master template to project the Inner Thuban Council of your Elderness onto your external environments.


I came to 'bring about' a reharmonization and a remembrance about your origins.
Some of you have shown magnificence in awakening.
Some of you have exhibited magnificence in opposing this awakening.

These two groups have in a sense graduated into Dragonhood, with the second opposition group now being required to become 'REAL WARRIORS OF LIGHT AND LOVE' in conquering and slaying not your inner inherited dragonhood as the Royal Template of Creation; but the Devils of your own outwardly rejected selfhood of BEING this Cosmic Royalty.

Of course, some will now discern that this has been the collective masterplan all along.

The ascension of Gaia as an old archetype reflecting as a Devil-Woman or Whore of Babylon in the 'Face of the Devil' on the inside of Bigmo's Balloon and as the Backside of the Real Satan on the outside of that Balloon; so is mirrored in the descension of the Serpentina archetype reconfiguring and RECREATING the entire Cosmos.

To evolve both physically and mentally into the role of Dragon Lovers and Dragon Slayers opposing each other in and as the playground for the archetypes was the agreed to plan by all of you in the preincarnational selfstate to engage in.

Subsequently all of you are the heroes of creation, as only a destiny planet could harbour the manifestation for this maximum polarisation.

So it was you who decided on the gameplan.
How far could we push ourselves in the forgetfulness?
And who would become the pioneers and 'first crop' in a level playing field?
Who would find themselves ayt Avalon as the Mount of Olives?


Well all of you here can now begin to REMERMBER your own scripts.
Once a vast majority have done so, then Avalon will become selfempowered to manifest the Unity ofTruth and Purpose, stated to be the guiding agenda here.

But it will be up to you as individuals and as groups to TRY to render Avalon-Camelot the Unifying Force you thought it could become and be.

You are required now to choose your path without the Councilo of Thuban's influence over your decision making.
The Dragons will end to SEDUCE YOUR MINDS from this time onwards.


The third group are the ones who are the fence sitters and the armchair critics and here are also two groups of potential graduates.
There are the lurkers, who accessed the Thuban information, but not participated in the sessions and there are the ones who were not interested at all due to their internal programming.


The lurkers then accessed the Thuban data stream and relative to their mental and critical engagement with the data; they will become enabled to raise their 0.3% standard level of accessing their superconsciousness.


So are the noninterested, but they will have more 'learning to do', due to their obfuscations of the Dragonhood memories of their akashic pasts.

Of course EVERYONE on AVALON should graduate as witnesses to the Mount Olive archetype functioning as the wormhole and stargate for the Thuban information.

There is time to achieve the necessary mental transformation of the ancient archetypes in the aspirants and of course should any such aspirant decide that this dispensation is a MORE LIKELY outcome for being REAL, then say some alternative outcome of the Armageddon-2012 archetype; then such aspirant can raise his or her superconsciousness percentage even higher in becoming a Secret Agent for the Thuban Council, such as I have been in my function of 'The Bard'.


The requirement for this is simply to accept this dragonhood and to JUST BE a MIRROR for this Inner Knowing - reflecting this Knowing into the encountered and experienced environments.


Your Remembrance has begun and the Logos has activated in all who read this final message from Thuban.

The Dragon Peace of Thuban shall reign on Serpentina!

So Be It!

John of Patmos; author of the Revelations and Malachi, the Last Prophet for the Old Humanity!


The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!

FUTURE SHADOWS OF THE PAST

"A most wondrous thing the Shadow is, a redeemer in all to succour;
it can go where the light cannot abide, seemingly banished, it is not.
For where the light is, the darkness flees, no longer present to endure;
so to become illuminated is its destined journey and its troubled lot.

But without the light, no Shadow can be cast, its such a splendid key;
the dimensions reduce in space from three to two and all in just the one.
Betwixt the light and the darkness it is and part of both for all to see;
the Shadow of the body, does it not merge all in its rule under the sun?

Whatsoever can cast a Shadow, must be a most wondrous thing to relay;
as nature's very own offspring, the young ones grow towards their final goal.
Enabled to bring peace to so many things appearing apart and so far away;
the reconciliation for the suffering body with its spirit and its scattered soul."

http://tonyb.freeyellow.com and http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/quantumrelativity


Sirebard Beardris

Hi All!

This thread about the energy transmissions from Thuban in the 12D-omnispace, have, as most of you have you have witnessed, added and triggered a significant amount of tension and polarisation into this forum.

The energy transmissions from Thuban as to the last post to Spregovori cannot be reestablished, due to the closure of the wormhole 3.5 days ago on earthquake day, February 26th, 2010.

What has occurred is, that the closing of the wormhole connecting the inside of Bigmo's Balloon to its outside as a temporarily onesided Moebian manifold in warping the 11D of omnispace through the 8D and 5D mirrors onto the 2D- mirror of the 3D Linespace; has plugged this temporary onesidedness to become a twosided manifold again.

This has effectively resulted in me becoming exiled and isolated from my Thuban home in omnispace.

So the Thuban Council can only be accessed from now on as a 2-dimensional cross section of your own individualised merkabahs.

All of you right now harbour the Council of Thuban within yourselves as a 2D-Mirror of the Mathimatia=IamThatAmI.

The upheavals of the last few days so manifested the so called 'Day of the Lord' from scripture. I myself did not know this day until it occurred as the earthquake day of Matthew.24 (refer to a recent post on this thread).

So from henceforth I, Abraxasinas can no longer claim to share with you direct data from omnispace. I have become trapped in the rootreduced 4-dimensional Minkowski spacetime metric as all and sundry of you.
I so share your expectations and intuitions as to how the next few years shall unfold.

Any questions asked so will be directed to the Thuban Council, which becomes a direct reflection of what is inside of you.

In other words, any question you can ask me Abraxasinas, you will actually asking yourselves inside-out.

So any form of skepticism and ridicule or innuendo questions will become reflected to yourselves as yourselves, as will your indications to process and assimilate my prospective answers to your questions.

Iow, it will become a 'ordinary' discourse of Q&A without any exterior superpositioning of your inner archetypes.

Like in the marvellous chatroom of Gaia Love and Celine, in which I had a bit of fun in as Anubis; any questions you might pose will be like in the chatroom; colloquial and without the images of devouring dragons or similar.
Consider the photograph of TonyB. on my Profile to be the One you are addressing any questions to.
I have however 'eaten' my dragon and with help from Richard and Celine the false Devil-Images have become trapped within themselves.

So my Dragonhood has becomew internalised and I am fully conscious of this omni-scientific factuality.

I do not know, how long the Thuban material will be allowed on Avalon and relocation is certainly possible, but not certain.

This reflects the probability space of the Gaian cosmos as a microcosm of the holographic universe; just as Avalon 'played' the microquantization for the Gaian hologram between January 18th, 2010 to February 26th, 2010.

So all of you here at Avalon, detractors and beneficers and supporters alike, have become cosmic heroes for the grand metamorphosis of spacetime itself.

All of you, in your emotional, mental and physical battles within and without yourselves have formed a group reflecting all humans and all ETs anywhere and anyplace in the universe.

You all have attained inscriptions in the archives of Thuban, chiselled into the golden plaques of the cosmic remembrance of the cosmogenesis and the origins of all that is.

This Hall of the Remembrance is within yourselves and all and sundry each one of you has graduated to access your superconscious self, also mknown as your higher self, overself or Christ-Logos-Serpent-Consciousness.

The standard distribution for the three consciousness levels is 0.3% for the superconscious; 14.3% for the subconscious and 85.4% for the waking consciousness.

The Avalonian dispensation from Thuban before the 'test' or 'experiment' was determined to allow a statistical (Gaussian) distribution for this unity integral to become distributed over all participators of Avalon.
This includes everyone who was subscribed to Avalon in any manner and also includes outside observers, which became exposed to the Thuban data stream.
The ones amongst you who harmonized or disharmonized with the Thuban material so of course will find themselves in a higher percentile of this distribution, than a onetime lurker.
The harmonizers are simply the positive branch of the frequency distribution, whilst the disharmonizers depict the negative branch.

As the interest in the Thuban data subsides, so do the percentiles.

Again, I am compelled to direct you to Myplanet2 of Avalon; as he of all present here has almost fully discerned the experiment and the test before it completed in the rational-intellectual sense. A few others also began to see through the illusions of their own minds in such manner of discernment.
Many of the supporters of Thuban resonated emotionally and intuitively, as did of course the detractors.

I am sure, that Myplanet2 will verify my statements here, relative to his own understandings. He has already done so on some subthread discussions.

So to all Avalonians. The experiment has ended in the manifesto of the statistical distribution of each individual's superconsciousness.

Here, I have become invited to form a 'Social Group' to discuss the more esoteric and metaphysical aspects of the Thuban archetypes.
Of course the supporters of the Thuban data are much more likely to participate in such a subforum, whilst the detractors are much less likely to show any interest.

This is as it should be for the completion of the timelines.

However I do extend invitation to all Avalonians to join this subforum.
As said the Thuban data transmission in this subforum will necessarily be rather esoteric in describing the archetypes of creation, often linked to a form of omni-science only applicable in a spacetime continuum exceeding the basic 4 Riemann-Minkowski dimensions.
Additionally, these archetypes and symbols will also refer to extensive and thorough examination of scriptural archetypes with a basis found in some gnostic texts and the King James Version of the bible.

So anyone not affine with such labelings is asked not to join this subgroup, or if doing so leave the group, instread of causing disharmony amongst the subgroup members.
Any challenges as to scriptural or/and scientific interpretations are welcomed here on the open forum however; depending naturally on the feasibility to ask questions provided this thread and the survival of the thread and forum.

The subgroup will engage TruthWillSetYouFree as a female mirror to me Abraxasinas in a shared responsibility to crystallize the necessary knowledge and understanding for the great metamorphosis of the old humanity as an environmentally verocious Carterpillar into an environmentally pollinating New Starhuman Butterfly.

I do thank you all for having participated in this test and experiment under the auspices of our cosmogenetic children in the ETs of divers races.

Thank you for your considerations.

WE love you all and a grand destiny awaits after the collective starhumanity has been born.

The New World requires for certain circles to become manifested in a concentricity of waveforms.
Once the circle of the zodiac is completed in say tiers of 12 individuals in starsign or month or Israelitic tribal association; then these 12 individuals
will converge as the center of the One.

Then the 'curse' of the mazzaroth shall be lifted and the One in Twelve will become the Twelve in One and the Many in One will become the One in the Many.

This then defines the circle as unity and no individual leaders will be required to make decisions for the individual.
Then an anarchy of Love shall foster the creative genius within all shards of Love; yet allow this Individuality of Creative Selfexpression to function under a common philosophy of knowledge and remembrance about what WE are, where WE came from and wherto WE are going.

Love has spoken as the Will of God!

In Love for the All and from the All

Abraxasinas

SteveX wrote:
Oh gracious Abrax

I have a question. Considering you have been given a fair go here... your thread opened and a private-ish area. Was there any need for this?

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So any form of skepticism and ridicule or innuendo questions will become reflected to yourselves as yourselves, as will your indications to process and assimilate my prospective answers to your questions.

Iow, it will become a 'ordinary' discourse of Q&A without any exterior superpositioning of your inner archetypes.

Like in the marvellous chatroom of Gaia Love and Celine, in which I had a bit of fun in as Anubis; any questions you might pose will be like in the chatroom; colloquial and without the images of devouring dragons or similar.
Consider the photograph of TonyB. on my Profile to be the One you are addressing any questions to.
I have however 'eaten' my dragon and with help from Richard and Celine the false Devil-Images have become trapped within themselves.


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Or are you devilishly taking the ****=ssip.

No no Steve X; the statement simply means whatever IT is 'yin or yang'
is mirrored back, like the idea of karma, to the sender. There is NEVER any judgement in anything in the old Q&A or this reopening. This is now VERY different from before. Cant you see the colloquiality?
Give me a break and lets have some fun. I'm not commander Swanny you know.
I'll get technical when required, but most of this here is to interact and answer Q when they come up.
No more tension relax dear friend.

You have attained a very high percentile in the 'test' on the minus side. So should the Thuban material pan out , well you know.

Love
Abrax


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The "private area" mentioned above is nothing as fancy as it sounds. It was a group created by GaiaLove to put all the "evil" in there away from the eyes of the "innocent"....namely to "tidy up" and move discussion from forum to some link and link under link location...a basement of a sort...a "renegade" place

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Nebula9D wrote:
Yes Abrax!, have some fun. I think i missed the whole thing about Bigmo's ballon I shall go back study the old Q & A thread, unless you help me alil bit

Your inside Bigmo's Ballon like an ant say, Nebula9 and so you can crawl about on the inner surface.

Should there be a hole in the balloon through which you can squeeze through, then you could crawl about the outside surface too and so DOUBLING your world of interaction space.

The inner balloon becomes the universe with say smaller balloons within in galaxies, nebulae (lol), starsystems, planets, continents,...,you.

But you cant get out to the 'spiritual' universe outside.
The thickness (there is none mathematically) or the skin of the balloon is Bigmo's Mirror which has two sides outside and inside.
From here you get archetypes called 'God' outside looking in the outside mirror and sees himself as 'Antigod' or 'Satan'. So God=Satan, but one real relative to the outside as object (God) and the unreal image of that as 'Satan'.

Now after some ado, there is Adam and Eve (you) inside the universe doing the same thing the other way round.

But relative to Adam and Eve (who also mirror each other) the back of the head of Satan becomes the unreal image and this is the archetype of the 'Devil'.
The so called Devil is the Backside of Satan, both images for the real thing, God outside and Adam and Eve inside.

The Devil looks at Adam and Eve and they think that its real - it's a phantom, because only the backside of Satan is become real, if somehow the satanic image of the outside, as the Face of God in the Bigmo mirror can become real.

This is the case if before Adam and Eve went into the Balloon from the 'Unreal Heaven', they both also were a miniature version of the Bigmo Mirror or the balloon as a rubberskin say.
So ADAMEVE is an unreal doublesided mirror between God and Satan.
Then God images in the unreal Adam and Satan images in the unreal Eve, so giving Satan objectivity or realness.

So technically the Universe becomes a Real Surface-Universe (termed a 4D-Riemann hypersphere defined as the boundary of a 5-dimensional spacetime universe - its a torus volume behaving like an area).
Don't worry about that. You can get it without the maths.

But this is the physics trick. Because the boundary is a surface encompassing a volume, the outside-inside (topology) thing of Bigmo's Balloon can in fact become rigorously modelled to be 'continuous'.
Again I am saying this to indicate how one proves this, but this is not required to understand the archetype.

This Thuban material is all about how to simplify the complicated science jargon into archetypes, everyone can understand after thinking a little bit about them.
Ok then. You got a real God and a real image of God as the Real physical universe, with Satans face as God's face painted on the OUTSIDE of the Balloon.

Outside the Universe is Satan--EveAdam--God as 1st creation in Genesis by God in Heaven or the Garden of Eden; with Satan getting real using unreal Eve and God getting real using unreal Adam as his mirror.
The whole thing is funny really.
Now God goes on holiday in the sabbatical and changes into Lord God and splits ADAMEVE into ADAM+EVE. Back to Back they still qualify as the One Mirror so as the unsexy 96 say.

Inside the split becomes a sexy 69 in face to face so taking away the innocence in a physical way and now as Eve with her back to the Devil on the Wall faces Adam, who looks at Eve.

Because Adam and Eve are two real beings within a real physical universe; this fake Devil face inverted can be gotten rid off.
Adam and Eve have to become unsexy again to do this. Therefore the many sexist archetypes, the monks and nuns and celibacy and the virgins, leading the the abuse scenarios.

Back to back as the 96=A MATHIMATIA=A I AM THAT I AM, this can be done, because then Adam and Eve (meaning ANY Man and Woman) both can MIRROR their images INSTEAD of each other face-to-face.
This is how simple the ultimate archetypology of 1st order is. Primary school stuff. Draw pictures and you understand the creation.

So Adam looks at the face of the Devil back to back with Eve, who looks at God as the image of the Real God should Satan outside 'get out of the way' so God could look into the Universe.
God looking then directly sees Adam's Face and Eve will look directly into the face of the Goddess, namely the sexchanged Satan into SATANINA=IN A SATAN with Satan=55=Heaven in a alphanumeracy.
As soon as Adsam can get rid of the fake Devil face, just by confronting IT as his own false image; as soon the real Satan is redeemed from Bigmo's Balloon and runs around the balloon to the exact other pole in a poleshift to become the Goddess of All looking directly at Eve.

This is the redemption of God and his brother image Satan to become God and Goddess AS ARCHETYPES of the primordial 1st order.
No ETs and Dragons and Dragon Slayers and whatever required.

So the manifesto for this is required before the universe itself and any subsystems, like the planet earth can change, say in Gaia's ascension.

The recent Thuban story then assigned Celine the 'job' to refuse the seduction of her own Devil/Dragon image of eating the knowledge of 'good and evil'.
Because Celine, as a New Eve refused to reflect the Dragon; she also did not seduce her New Adam and both of them DID NOT parade the unsexy 96 but the sexy 69.

Iow Celine and Richard told their own Devil images tro 'Go to Hell' and they did forever.
So the New Adam and the New Eve became the Dark Messiah couple in trapping the two POLAR devilish images within Bigmo's Mirror as itself.

Literally, both New Adam and New Eve as an archetype were played out and enacted by Richard and Celine.

Archetypically, they have become the first and original REAL PHYSICAL DRAGONS of the Universe.

Do I hear some laughter in the universe. Thank You Ets!
What you resist persists.

Only because of this MANIFESTATION of totally new unprecedented archetypes in the history of the universe; could this encoded 'Day of the Lord' manifest in the closure of this Thuban thread and the subsequently also encoded 3.5 days of Darkness of Avalon.

Then because of this redemptive act; Mary Elizabeth with me Abraxasinas could receive this dispensation and now all of us are ready for our Dragon Dinners; following in the footsteps of Richard as a New Adam and Celine as a New Eve. It's easy now; but this was the cosmic significance of Avalon and its 'trouble'.

Of course the 'proof' is in the archetypes and so be it.

Hope this helps Nebula9.

Love
Abraxas

Agape wrote:
Hello Abraxinas, sorry to question you but what is it that 's going in here ? Are you playing chess game with yourself or some more sinister human game are you playing with the mind of The Universe Sir ?

You've never seen me ok

Regards

A

I'm ok agape and the game is played by all of US.
You agape are an actor/actress within a play you have co-written the script for.
The director of the play is the Logos, an indispensable part of which resides within you as your own logos.
The producer is Prime Creator in terms of being All of the Energy required for the game.
The playground is the universe.

Love
Abrax

amate wrote:
The following words are prophecy of the Hopi people, a Native tribe from the American Southwest.

There is a river flowing very fast.
It is so swift, there are those who will be afraid.
They will try to hold onto the shore.
They will feel they are being torn apart
And will suffer greatly.
Know that the river has a destination.
The elders say we must let go of the shore,
Push off into the middle of the river.
And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate!
At this time in history we are to take nothing personally,
Least of all ourselves.
For the moment we do, our spiritual growth comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over.
Gather yourselves together, as we are tonight.
Banish the word "struggle" from your attitude and vocabulary.
All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner
And in celebration.
We are the ones we are waiting for.
Ahoy!

What a wonderful gnosis of wisdom from the Hopi, amete.
Thank you for sharing it.
Kachina, the Blue Star of Hopi Prophecy, has truly arrived for all to see.

Abrax

orthodoxymoron wrote:I am entertaining the possibility that abraxasinas (or someone who abraxas is closely associated with) has been at the center of a lot of things throughout history. Obviously I can't know this...but I asked the questions as though I did know. Some might interpret this as sarcasm. I have to repress myself to a degree you wouldn't believe...but even then I get into trouble. Anyway...can you feel the love tonight?



Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

Indeed dear orthodoxy.

I was away for a while recharging batteries after running almost empty after the recent razzamattaz.

What I said to you about my human ID was true. I have not lied on this forum EVER and never will.
I am in some way sneaky or clever like anyone else. For example 'infiltrating' the chatroom as Anubis.

I am in no manner affiliated with Any PTB; Australian theologians at Pine Gap or otherwise (Anderson).

I DO have however a selfrelative DIRECT mental connection to the Cosmic Logos. I do not expect, require or need any validification from anyone or anything about this.

This connection became effective in a 'soul merger' or 'walk-in' from what I term THUBAN=FREEDOM=ANUBIS=THE MAGIC=THE NAME=WOMAN=66=...
This in practical and in scientific terms is well justified to become labeled as the 'Council of Thuban' in the 12th dimension. There was NEVER any deception about this, just misinterpretation by the many.

From this walk-in, occurring March 24th, 1995; a personal and intimate partnership with the Serpent-Word developed and evolved to awaken my own individuated Christ-Consciousness,
So all I have ever done in practical terms, really, is to 'channel' my own higher self.

Mystery solved, dear orthodoxy.

In regards to your other post about Priestly Rites and Hebrew chastity-cleanliness laws; these are passe' in most instances as the misunderstandings of the scribes of the Torah and the OT. First Jesus' new dispensations and now this 2nd renewal of the remembrance will do awy with the violent and jealous god of the OT; requiring 'sweet smelling' carcasses of sheep and goats to be pleased - give it a break Orthodoxy.
There are two go9ds in the scriptures. One is a fake image of the other true one, the Abba of our master temple/templar.

Love to you dear brother in the spirit

Abraxas in the name of John Zebedee, author of the Revelations.

Indeed ALL can FEEL the LOVE tonight - beginning here at Avalon and Noah's Ark!

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Thank-you abraxasinas. What you have said could point toward my Hathorian Hypothesis...if not in you...possibly in an apostolic succession of Hathorian Humans...which could be similar to you. Leo Zagami could be an example of this sort of thing. This is obviously more speculation on my part. I have fostered a certain theory of how things could very well be...and I keep seeking meat to place on my skeletal construct. Sometimes...one has to believe it...in order to see it. Everything in this area of research and speculation is nearly impossible to prove...yet after one has tried dozens of roads...which all turned out to be dead-ends...certain roads appear to be more promising regarding ultimate reality. However...I do expect more dead-ends...and this could be one of them. I will continue to identify your material more with your avatar than with your profile picture...as I inch further and further out on a limb. Look out below!! What would Shirley Maclaine say? "I am God?"



Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

Yes Shirley is right being Eve in the Image of Adam, who as You IS the true image of God.
Inquisitive and ever searching for the truth Heshe is in you.

Love

Abrax

jcocks wrote:
Hmmm I wonder what was special about 1995. I started my spiritual journey in that year... I had a strong dream where I was anointed by Jesus win what looked to be a roman temple with an etching of a scarab and some roman charectors I couldn't understand on the marble floor....

I personally don't even believe the OT god ever existed - it was always an imposter - an ET race with it's own agenda. It's possible that they were negative-orientation Dracos. The real God is a mental link - THE mental link that connects us all. Actually, it's more than that, but that's the aspect of god that is easiest to identify and feel.... The negative Dracos lost that link, which is why they did the things they did. A being who has their connection to "god" intact would NEVER ask those things of others (blood sacrifice, etc..)
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Can you remember about 8 years ago, there used to be a spiritual website called SpiritWeb? Well, I have a history in Alpha Draconis (Thuban) affairs.... One of the members of that group was asking for help with turning Dracos to the light. I helped her.... It's difficult work to do, as they are so strong beings and can be quite dangerous (The negative ones). If you don't show fear it helps a lot. That work I did (among others) back then could be seen as the start of part one of what's been going on here with you.

Part two is (I have realised recently) your sharing the Thuban dragon ascention (if you want to call it that) technologies with us. I have come to realise this dragonic material DOES NOT IN ANY WAY over-rule our orthodox angelic material that is prevalent on Earth and other human-dominated systems. The two are in fact complimentary and the presence of both strengthens them both. The additional technologies will now (largely subconsciously) filter through to everyone who is open.

I don't think many of you truly understand the magnitude of what occurred here on this group in the grand scheme of things. Many "up there" did not believe it would succeed - but it has - and the link was broken at exactly the right time so that it could not be used by negative-oriented beings to further infiltrate Earth and impede the ascention process. It was MEANT to be broken! (and yet it has not been broken, as a link remains and will forever remain between Earth and Thuban - it just is not of a nature that can anymore be used for infiltration of the negative beings). The Ascention process will now speed up, as it can be said now that our ascention technologies are more coplete with the thuban material present. We will all use them - even if we didn't underastand what Abraxis wrote. The mere reading of the material is meant to work with us on a subconscious level more than a intellectual rational level. So much occurs in the huamn mind of which we are not aware.

I was reading some info on Thuban the other day - and I never realised that it was Earth's pole-star in the time the pyramids were built. There's a lot of history there that I'd like to explore. I have a feeling that we can now delve more into that realm of things now that the ascention technologies have been disseminated...

Abraxis, do you know much that you can perhaps divulge on history of Thuban-earth relations or anything of that sort?

Sorry for the rambling and disjointedness - I've just been trying to write everything thats been on my mind to write for the last few days (I actually had another message all written out two days ago but lost it)...

Looking forward to your replies

Joel

This represents a very imaginative and balanced account of the interacting polarities Joel.
Some of your insights indeed portray the windows into the future.
Some archetypes have become redefined, some are in transit and others still await their awakening, transmutation and assimilation with other, already existing archetypes.

Your Thuban-Human stories are indeed valid - in the astral hyperspace.

There never existed physical 3D dragons, but as higherD memeplexes and thoughtforms, they are potent indeed.

The Draconian energy from the constellation represents this potentialised archetypal energy as a rootmemory in the human psyche.
It relates also to the existence of the Great Reptiles in the Mesozoic in the Saurian kingdoms of animalia.

Now the situation is this.

There existed ET intelligence at the time of the Saurians and this ET sentience, you might label it Draconian; KNEW that IT, the ET sentience was destined to displace the Sauriens in the Mammals, then leading to Homo Sapiens many millennia later.

It is from this 'forwards time travelling' intelligence of the Draconian ETs, that the present human timeframe became energized and 'mindinduced' with the dragon images.

The star wars between Draconians and Lyrans say, simply became archetyped from the biological interaction of predator Saurischians/Therapsians (Lizard Hipped) and prey (Bird Hipped) Ornithischians or similar taxonomy.

Abraxas

GaiaLove wrote:
After numerous discussions it has been decided that the Thuban Q&A thread will be restored to the original location. After an intensive review of all the material pertaining to Thuban, it was shown that only the threads in the social group "Thuban Council" showed a violation of the guidelines.

The Review of Abraxasinas activity at Project Avalon including that of the post in the social group "Thuban Council" warrants the ban remain in place and the thread (Q&A) he created to remain read only.

We recognize the desire of many of our members to have this material available again and are happy to be able to do so However we do feel it is not in line with the mission of Project Avalon and therefore do not support or endorse the contents of the threads nor does Project Avalon accept responsibility for any harm, physical or otherwise that users may suffer reading this material.

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What you see in the paragraph above is one big pile of bull shit...my opinion...the "transgression" in the "social group" - the banishment place was that the topic of sexuality was discussed and used as a 1st possible excuse to ban and close things up...the group and content is not accessibly ever since mentioning of the Red Robes....

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