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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:45 pm

    5thElement wrote:

    Thank you for answering my question the way you did - I completely understood (which i cannot say has been my experience with some other answers).

    One (or mybe two) more...
    When I think of Dragons - I think of SciFi, Fantasy or Mythological dragons. As in Beasts - big, scaly, potentially fire-breathing, winged, flying beasties

    Is that what kind of Dragon you are referring to? Or are you referring to the line of "dragon blood/ruling elite" but basically humanoid type of "dragon". Or something else in entirely?

    Thanks,
    El


    Dear 5thelement!

    Stand before a mirror and look into it. What do you see? You see yourself as a 3D object projected as a 2D image.
    You can live with that; because you know what you see.
    Now raise your right hand and what do you see?
    Imagining yourself to BE your own image in the mirror - you raise your left hand.
    Now call the right as 'good' and the left as 'bad' or evil or sinister.

    Now comes the next step. Imagine your mirror to have become invisible and repeat the process.
    There you are as a 3D 5thelement and you cannot see your images in your invisible mirror.
    So you begin to imagine what 'might' be out there as a 'bad' and evil and sinister image of yourself in your invisible mirror.

    You ask your friends as to what they have 'seen' or 'felt' or 'experienced' in their invisible mirrors and a concordence might develop and many agree, that the invisible images are 'Flying fire-spewing Dragons' on the prowl to collect humans for their dinner plates.
    By then YOU and your friends have forgotten, that it was YOU and yours who constructed the invisible mirrors in the first place and so the invisible images are but reflections and 2D images of yourselves.

    (84) Jesus said : "When You see your own likeness, You rejoice. But when You see the images of yourselves which came into being before You, which do not die nor become visible, how much then will You be able to bear ?"

    (62) Jesus said : "It is to those who are worthy of My mysteries that I tell My mysteries. Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is about to do."

    You may also refer to message #1351 and relate the following wisdom sayings which in that thread retell the Thuban version of the Story of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden.


    (11) Jesus said : "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when You consumed death, You made death alive. When You come to dwell in the light, what will You do ? On the day when You were one, You became two. But when You become two, what will You do ?"

    22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to His disciples : "These infants who suck are like those who enter the Kingdom." They said to Him : "Shall we then enter the Kingdom as infants ?" Jesus said to them : "When You make the two one, and when You make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when You make the male and the female one, so that the male will not be male nor the female female ; and when You fashion eyes in place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in the place of a likeness ; then will You enter the Kingdom."


    (50) Jesus said : "If they say to You, 'Where did You come from ?', say to them : 'We came from the light, the place where the light came into being of itself, established itself and revealed itself in their image. If they say to You : 'Who are You ?', say : 'We are its sons. We are the elect of the Living Father.' If they ask You : 'What is the sign of your Father in You ?', say to them : 'It is movement and rest.'

    (70) Jesus said : "If You bring forth what is within You, what You have will save You. If You do not have that within You, what You do not have within You will kill You."

    83) Jesus said : "Images are visible to man, and the light which is in them is hidden in the image of the Light of the Father. He will reveal Himself and His image is hidden by His light."

    (84) Jesus said : "When You see your own likeness, You rejoice. But when You see the images of yourselves which came into being before You, which do not die nor become visible, how much then will You be able to bear ?"

    89) Jesus said : "Why do You wash the outside of the cup ? Do You not realize that He who made the inside is the same one who made the outside ?"

    I welcome you to ask further questions about the Thuban Dragons being Your own images and also the images of your friends as the invisibilities you have forgotten.
    Then you might begin to understand that it is your forgetfulness, which has resulted in your and your friends projecting your own TRUE and REAL objectivities as invisible, but perhaps 'one day' observable evil flying monsters of divers sorts.

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:47 pm


    Finis Hominis Incere Hominidae Draconis Astrum!!!
    "Humanity has ended, enter the Starhumanity of Dragons!"


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    Metamorphosis - Aphrodite's Butterfly Collection


    RaH Versus ApeP as HaR the Image of RaHaR in the Mirror of Hathor.
    PROTECTOR OF THE SARCOPHAGUS
    THE GUIDE OF THE DEAD

    The Right White Solar Eye of RaH for Horus of the Horizon as the 3 and the Left Black Lunar Eye of HaR for Hathor of the Mirror as the 6 and Imaged in the Right Eye of Uraeus in Anubis as the 9.

    Anubis Khaibit- Shadow of Uraeus



    FUTURE SHADOWS OF THE PAST

    "A most wondrous thing the Shadow is, a redeemer in all to succour;
    it can go where the light cannot abide, seemingly banished, it is not.
    For where the light is, the darkness flees, no longer present to endure;
    so to become illuminated is its destined journey and its troubled lot.

    But without the light, no Shadow can be cast, its such a splendid key;
    the dimensions reduce in space from three to two and all in just the one.
    Betwixt the light and the darkness it is and part of both for all to see;
    the Shadow of the body, does it not merge all in its rule under the sun?

    Whatsoever can cast a Shadow, must be a most wondrous thing to relay;
    as nature's very own offspring, the young ones grow towards their final goal.
    Enabled to bring peace to so many things appearing apart and so far away;
    the reconciliation for the suffering body with its spirit and its scattered soul."
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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:57 pm

    http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=243939&postcount=1382


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    skipped for now due to triple quoting..ob brook, celine and abrax in a single post

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:05 pm

    Anchor wrote:
    Celine,

    Since you asked me at the start, I suppose I need to know if you understand what induction means?

    In the context used in the message you referred to I think this definition is a useful one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_induction

    The compound word Mindinduction therefore, in the context used, probably refers toa form of inter-dimensional communication.

    If you look at it that way it isnt so scary is it?

    Another one Bifurcation - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifurcation - means the splitting of one body into two. Not really that insulting is it, after all without it none of us would be alive.

    I believe quadruplistic refers to something formed of four parts or qualities, but it I am not sure - perhaps abraxasinas could help me there.

    Either way its not rude and its no cause for concern.

    Abraxasinas, please feel free to put all this right if I have it wrong.



    A..


    No, you've got it right Anchor.
    I have commented on Celine's post, which confirms your statements.
    Much, but not all (say 80%) of the Thuban material is already represented in the terran libraries and data sources, such as wikipedia.

    By the way this 'Book of the Dragon' represents a sci-fi version of the present scenario, as the 1999 dating should indicate.
    The posters omitted to repost the endpart of this post, which read:

    ...
    Signed by the enscribed Unicornian Librarian; and announcing the Great Galactic Dragonomy (Wedding between Heaven and Hell) between:

    ALPHA=38=BRIDE---""ANDROMEDA BE & PERSEUS MILKY WAY""---OMEGA=41=KING

    The Date of Armageddon, encoded: ARMAGEDDON=DRAGON MADE=82 =ANARMEDDOG=GODNAMEDRA=1+81=1+18 =ANDROMEDA-G=MARRY-7=LUCIFERA-7 =1+2+3+...+34+35+36+1=666+1 =1+2x2+3x3+5x5+7x7+11x11+13x13+17x17

    Signed and authorised by the ScrollKeeper: October 31st, 2008;

    John of Patmos - JoP - Justice of the Peace!

    Humanoid Compilers note:

    The above is an extract of an encoded message (54 terabytes) recovered from an alien nanocapsule. The capsule itself is standard buckyfibre-carbonite composite. The encoded message is in old ComEmp protocol such as is still common in the outer volumes. The holographic image that came with the message is curious. Anatomically it indicates terran mammalian origin (especially in the upper torso and structure of the forelimb), but other features are unknown among all the recorded exobiological races so far discovered. One cannot deny the possibility that this a phenotype template for the dragonized humanoids referred to in the body of the message. It is known that transmissions from the Cassandry Federation of the JewellBox Nebula have recently ceased, but this is not unusual given that empire's turbulent history. Until more information is incoming, I would strongly recommend any expeditions to the Jewellbox nebula be given armed escort and proceed with caution.
    Nilam Levakon for Alan Martin Kazlev
    Senior Academician, clade Haeckel



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    Anchors post quoted above is referring to overall drama (part of it visible in previous posts entitled "troubles") that went on via LionHawk, Brook, Celine, GaiaLove and others...being concerned the evil dragon (as they call it) will make all light workers (as they call some others) leave the forum this thread was originally posted on...the overall drama is simply too large in context for me to copy paste all of it....but bellow is one response that sums it up in short

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    Spregovori wrote:
    It seems this is getting out of hand...

    Now what we have here is emotional extortion....

    And it is not ok when mommy and daddy fight in front of the children = MODS get a hold of yourself....there are closed forums here for all the "outbursts"...use them...cry, shout, fight....there...here you act as one.... or all you do is confusion.... (speaking from personal experiences)

    all your actions are causing re-actions (look around)

    make a decision...carry it out...live with the consequences



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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:10 pm

    BROOK wrote:
    But it was signed off, non the less by Sirebard Beardris...sifi version or not..that avatar was his...correct? Or was that you? I'm not sure who is who at this point....
    http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/gro...y/message/6522

    Dear Brook!

    This is an excellent observation of yours. And you have discerned the naming well.

    The 'signing off' in the sci-fi post 'The Book of the Dragons' by Sirebard Beardris is appropriate, because this preparatory sci-fi version of the 2008-2013 nexus timeline was indeed authorized by me, Abraxasinas in the delegated authority of our master templar.

    This work was written in 1999 by TonyB., our then humanoid agent of the linked website.
    At that time, the 'Office of the Bard' was not yet delegated to me, as Abraxasinas.

    Iow, the 'Office of the Bard' was transferred to me from the master templar on June, 25th, 2008.


    Tony B. held the office as the 'Scribe of the Unicorns' and as the 'Scrollkeeper', he resigned this sci-fi preparatory post, witnessed by John of Patmos as a technical JoP.
    ...
    Signed and authorised by the ScrollKeeper: October 31st, 2008;
    John of Patmos - JoP - Justice of the Peace!

    AA

    BROOK wrote:

    So forgive me....it still does not explain why she is digging a grave....why is she digging a grave in this "collection'?

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    It's a symbolic representation for the Sarcophagos of the Mummies of the Pharaohs Brook. The Black Dog is Anubis. The Grave is not to be filled but left.
    Abraxasina, the sexy one has come out of the Darkness of the Grave to utilize her Phoenix of the Resurrection to reclaim Abraxasinas in the Eagle of Egypt and the Dogs of Sirius.

    Matthew 24:28
    For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

    Abrax
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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:13 pm

    BROOK wrote:
    Apep ....
    PROTECTOR OF THE SARCOPHAGUS


    THE GUIDE OF THE DEAD



    You're use Apep as the sign of metamorphosis? lets really look at Apep and it's origins.....

    In Egyptian mythology Apep (also spelled Apepi, and Aapep, or ApophisGreek) was an evil demon, the deification of darkness and chaos (isfet in Egyptian), and thus opponent of light......

    Apep formed part of the more complex cosmic system resulting from the identification of Ra as Atum, i.e. the creation of Atum-Ra, and the subsequent merging of the Ogdoad and Ennead systems. Consequently, since Atum-Ra, who was later referred to simply as Ra, was the solar deity, bringer of light, and thus the upholder of Ma'at, Apep was viewed as the greatest enemy of Ra, and thus was given the title Enemy of Ra.
    As the personification of all that was evil, Apep was seen as a giant snake/serpent, crocodile, or occasionally as a dragon in later years, leading to such titles as Serpent from the Nile and Evil Lizard. Some elaborations even said that he stretched 16 yards in length and had a head made of flint. It is to be noted that already on a Naqada I (ca. 4000 BCE) C-ware bowl (now in Cairo) a snake was painted on the inside rim combined with other desert and aquatic animals as a possible enemy of a (solar?) deity who is invisibly hunting in a big rowing vessel.[2] Also, comparable hostile snakes as enemies of the sun god existed under other names (in the Pyramid Texts and Coffin Texts) already before the name Apep occurred. The etymology of his name ('3pp) is perhaps to be sought in some west-semitic language where a word root 'pp meaning 'to slither' existed. A verb root '3pp does at any rate not exist elsewhere in Ancient Egyptian. (It is not to be confused with the verb 'pi/'pp: 'to fly across the sky, to travel') Apep's name much later came to be falsely connected etymologically in Egyptian with a different root meaning (he who was) spat out; the Romans referred to Apep by this translation of his name.


    I find it splendid that you are using Egyptian mythology to explain the very thing that you claim to be enacting...following the great Ptah in all his glory...

    Abraxas' Thuban Q&A - Page 17 Ptah_1

    With his scales proudly showing in very few images.....

    and of course for the book of the dead with the the movement of Osiris...and his following....with the betrayer of humanity Toth...they do need a dog to guard what they have done.


    Hail, Thoth, who madest to be true the word of Osiris against his enemies, make thou the word of the scribe Nebseni to be true against his enemies, even as thou didst make the word of Osiris to be true against his enemies, in the presence of the Tchatcha Chiefs who are with Ra and Osiris in Anu, on the night of the "things of the night," and the night of battle, and of the fettering of the Sebau fiends, and the day of the destruction of the enemies of Neb-er-tcher.
    Now the great Tchatcha Chiefs in Anu are Tem, Shu, Tefnut, [Osiris and Thoth]. Now the "fettering of the Sebau fiends" signifieth the destruction of the Smaiu fiends of Set, when he wrought iniquity a second time.
    ........

    As concerning the Tchatcha Chiefs who are present at the digging up of the earth in Tetu: When the Smaiu fiends of Set came [there], having transformed themselves into animals, these Tchatcha Chiefs slew them in the presence of the gods who were there, and they took their blood, and carried it to them. These things were permitted at the examination [of the wicked] by those [gods] who dwelt in Tetu.

    Some very disturbing truths in the Book of the dead....so I beg another question.....why does one need such protection in the afterlife such as described above?.....Would the creator have approved such betrayal and evil from the likes of these "Gods"????



    It is you Brook, who is using the above 3rd and 4th order 'storytelling' of the interaction of the archetypes, not me.

    I prefer to use 1st and 2nd order archetypes, due to their relative uniqueness and simplicity, compared to the many-labelling-nesses of the lower orders.

    You may notice, that beneath the Anubis picture is written:

    RaH Versus ApeP as HaR the Image of RaHaR in the Mirror of Hathor.

    This indicates the archetype of Apep of being the Egyptian version for Satan in the Judeo-Christian version of 1st order.
    This archetype indicates 'Adversary' and 'Court-Prosecutor' and similar associations.
    From this archtype then evolves the translation of say 2nd order archetypes of say the Osiris-Set brotherhood in Cartouche and Rens: 1 and 10.

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:15 pm

    BROOK wrote:
    I see now...And Anubis..the son of Osiris.....fitting yes...and who exactly is his mother? That is the question of the millennium now is it not? This is no 3D remembrance I assure you of that


    Here is some data on the archetypes as found in the Thuban archives for you Brook:
    ...
    Their children became numbers 3 and 4 as the righteyed Horus of the 'All Seeing Eye' and the 'Spiritual Body' of the Sahu; and the lefteyed Bast or Pasht of the 'Sistrum' in the Ba of the 'Soul'.

    Now Set and Nephthys also had a child in Anubis, the Khaibit or Shadow of the Jackal-headed 'Opener of the Way' and the 'Guide of the Dead; but the story goes, that the fatherhood of Anubis is in dispute.

    Osiris is said to have had a loveaffair with both of his 'sisters' Isis and Nephthys to reproduce his own lefteyedness in a son to an also lefteyed mother.

    And so Anubis was born, knowing that he was lefteyed after his mother Nephthys, but he was initially confused because he could not image the righteyedness of his supposed father Set, there was an uncleanliness about his image as the image of his father, imaging the lefteyedness
    of his father's brother Osiris.

    Anubis was like a shadow between the right eye imaging the left as well as the other way around.
    But as Anubis pondered his origins, he came across his grandparents testimony and it dawned upon him, that the ever repeating generations of the cleanly sexed oneeyednesses could be made impure in stopping the generations going on and on infinitely.
    ...
    Anubis as the cipher 9 and Hathor in the cipher 6 then become the 'unclean' read bisexual sexes in Noah's ark (see below).

    1.Keter or Crown is the Khu of the Spirit and the 'Tree of Life as Djed or Phallus of Osiris'
    2.Hokmah or Wisdom is the Ab of the Heart and 'Throne of Isis'
    3.Binah or Intelligence is the Sahu of the Masculine in the 'EyeMirror of Horus'
    4.Hesed or Love is the Ba or Soul of the 'Sistrum of Bast'
    5.Gevurah or Power is the Ibis or Mind of the 'Caduceus of Thoth'
    6.Tiferet or Beauty is the Sekhem of the Feminine in the 'EyeMirror of Hathor'
    7.Nezah or Endurance is the Ka of the Double of the 'Astral Chalice of Nephthys'
    8.Hod or Majesty is the Ren or Name of the 'Mason's Tool of Ptah'
    9.Yesod or Foundationis the Khaibit or Image of the 'Shadow of Anubis'
    10.Malkuth or Kingdom is the Khat or Body and the 'Tree of Death as Yoni or Vulva of Set'

    The SEPHIROTIC TREE OF LIFE also known as MOSES' SAPPHIRE TABLET ;
    then partitions those ten archetypes into a male, say left stem and a female right stem, parted in a middle stem, centred on the 'unclean sexes' of the 69=96.

    The male 'clean-sex' stem is the sequence from top to bottom in: 1-3-5-8-10 and the female 'clean-sex' stem as the series from bottom to top in: 10-7-4-2-(1=1+0=10) as the Kelim of Reshimu.
    The middle stem is so given as: 1-6-9-10, with 1 and 10 interchangeable in a rootreduction of 10=1.
    One sets the maleness as odd numbers and the femaleness in even numbers; the unlean sexes of 6 and 9 encompassing 7 and 8, which so become interchanged in the male 7 associated with the female Nephthys and the female 8 given to the male Ptah to effect the overall transformation of the 10 of Set=Ar into Har and rendering the dragking Set as 'fake' DragonKing into a real DragonQueen Har for a real DragonKing RaH and as the Tsimtsum of the Tehiru in the Torah.

    And so the seven 'clean sexes' are 1,2,3,4,5,7 and 8 and the two 'unclean' sexes are 6 and 9; the differentiation being made for the pupose to render the number 10 as a true female, the 0 in between two number 1's, say in: (101binary=5decimal), mirroring the maleness in the femaleness and vice versa; the 'fowls of heaven' defining the bisexuality contained in the undifferentiated twinships.

    The symbolism of the 69=96 involves this mirror of being inverted either back to back in 96 or of being inverted face to face in the two 'immutable principles', by whom it was impossible for 'God'
    and hence the 'AntiGod' or 'Dog' to lie, coded in Hebrews.6.18.
    Mirroring 6 in a vertical mirror, either left or right results in a reflected numeral 6, which is however an inverted 9 in a reflection about a horizontal mirror either above or below the cipher 6.
    So a double-reflection, once vertical and once horizontal transforms the 6 into the 9 or vice versa and so 69=96 represent the mechanism by which God's purpose of the 10-tiered unification is accomplished.
    The numbers 66 or 999 etc. only transform the 6's into 9's and the 9's into 6's and do not achieve the desired aim of using two in one to mirror the one in the two."


    Abraxas' Thuban Q&A - Page 17 Sefirot

    1-series:
    1=A/Spirit of Osiris as Khu; 10=J/Body of Set as Khat; 19=S/Winged Disk of RahaR;

    2-series:
    2=B/Heart of Isis as Ab; 11=K/Fire of Nephthys' Duamutef; 20=T/Twinship of TefnutShu;

    3-series:
    3=C/Body of Horus as Sahu; 12=L/Air of Ptah's Qebhsnuf; 21=U/Sphinx Harmakhis' GebNut;
    4-series:
    4=D/Soul of Bast as Ba; 13=M/Water of Seshat's Imsety; 22=V/Maat's Scarab as Khepera;

    5-series:
    5=E/Mind of Thoth as Ibis; 14=N/Earth of Anubis' Hapi; 23=W/Pyramid of Thoth;

    6-series:
    6=F/Power of Sekhem as Hathor 15=O/Sirius of Hathor; 24=X/Sekhmet's Ankh as Sekhem;

    7-series:
    7=G/Chalice of Nephthys as Ka; 16=P/Lotus of Isis's Elements; 25=Y/NutGeb's YoniPhallus;

    8-series:
    8=H/Name of Ptah as Ren; 17=Q/Crook & Flail of Horus; 26=Z/ShuTefnut's PhallusYoni;

    9-series: 9=I/Shadow of Anubis as Khaibit; 18=R/Uraeus of Thoth; 27=A*/RaH as HaR.

    The separation of the sexes in three generations reduces to a unity expressed in that fourth generation, with Shu=Horus-Ptah and Geb=Anubis-Thoth and Rah=Osiris-Set, mirrored in Tefnut=Hathor- Sekhmet and Nut=Bast-Seshat-Maat and Har=Isis-Nephthys.

    The unity of Rah now allows both the rigtheyedness of Set and the lefteyedness of Osiris to become expressed in the same relativity of Rah, effectively doubling 'himself' as 'herself' and allowing Ra's old
    image of Apep to become transformed into the Har of Isis-Nephthys and redeeming Set, renamed as Seth in the process of completing the triune lovematches of RahHar, TefnutShu and GebNut; then expressed in the archetypical couplings of:
    A*BGJ=1+2+7+10=20=2=Osiris+Isis+Nephthys+Seth;
    CHOX= 3+8+15+24=50=Horus+Ptah+Hathor+Sekhmet; DEIM=4+5+9+13=31=4=Bast+Thoth+Anubis+Seshat.

    And to those 12 archetypes we add the two dualities of TefnutShu and GebNut for a total of 14.

    The 13 missing Osirian pieces so become the letters A, (as Rah),F,K,L,N,P,Q,R,S,V,W,Y,Z and as exactly half of the alphabet, mirrored in the available identities as shadow identities and with the Goddess Maat being identical to Bast in the 4-series, but differentiated in Seshat as 13=1+3=4."

    Genesis.7.1-3: "And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
    Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
    Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth."


    The Egyptian mythology as described here, is nothing but the Jewish Kabbalah of Ein-Sof, as the
    Hebrew mysticism in the Pentateuch, the first five books of Moses in the old testament of the Torah."

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:23 pm

    Julissa wrote:
    [Before I ask you my questions, I would like to address the forum and say something about the outbursts in this thread if I may.


    Dear Avalonians:
    This is JuLiSsa “the Peruvian” Haha (Although I don’t like to be categorized as such or “American” or any other nationality because I don’t believe in borders.) I sense fear. This information is not dangerous. There was probably a time when certain information was not accessible to humans and there must have been a reason for it. Although we may have always had the capacity to reach for truth because it was always latent within us, maybe humans couldn’t do so because they either forgot how or were blocked to it or maybe it was just not the right time; say an early human trying to handle astrophysics or the US tax code for that matter! Lol, nature handled this in the best possible way as always.

    Things are very different now. Information will reach someone just at the right time when he or she is ready for it even if their egos/intellectual mind don’t think so or even welcome it. How you process this data is up to you, for you always have free will. We at this stage in our evolution are ready for the Thuban material because it was prophesied that nothing will be a secret to us anymore. If you study this material closely, you’ll find awesomeness! Even if your intellect can’t understand it (as it happens with me sometimes), trust that what is in front of you is there for a reason and allow the knowledge to sink in. Allow your heart to think it through. Information like this is designed to trigger a remembrance in you, to deprogram your mind. It is in your best interest to be exposed to a wide variety of point of views anyway and I hint all of you already know this; otherwise you wouldn’t be here in Avalon. However, I feel the rejection is at times towards the scribe and not the material itself.

    Please contemplate this, Abraxas has a particular personality and sense of humor; but this thread is not about himher, it is about what heshe translates for us. Don’t miss the point thinking this is an “intellectual war” because there is no conflict, at least not coming from the messenger. And about the material itself, think of this: If heshe is banned from here, very simply heshe will find another forum in which to share this information. Maybe you’ll find it, maybe you won’t and then you’ll be missing a great opportunity to learn something in the NOW rather than later.

    So pay attention, for if God wants you to know something, you’ll find it even in your soup! Heed the moment! Do not react against it for there is no place to hide. If you face it and it disturbs you….great! Jesus said it will. If you feel that some new information might change your pre conceived ideas…good! Change is a natural thing. Don’t resist it. Embody it. Be courageous! Don’t be afraid of information. It is just that, information, but some like this “new” Thuban material holds great treasures! You will not die if it “touches” you, I promise. What will happen is that not you, but your ego will “die” and when you find yourself naked “without it” you’ll realize you are still you. Fear not what you don’t know or can’t remember YET, for in time… you will. ]



    Hello,

    I am so thankful I found you Abraxas and your wonderful website. I read it every day and I try to absorb as much of it as I can. What it has done for me (specially the latest Thuban dispensations) was that it has taken all the various bits and pieces of scattered info I had in me and put them in order. Order out of chaos. Nothing so far has been able to do that for me and it feels wonderful! This is important because as the pieces of the puzzle fit together, I can see the full picture more clearly. As my “vision” gets sharper, my heart finds peace. I sense this is bringing me closer and closer to find my truth. But my drive was never finding enlightenment just for myself. I am here to be of service to my loved ones and people around me.
    Can you fathom that as I come to face the information you present, I have to take it in, transmute it in me and then translate it into a different language so I can then present it to people who are eager to know here and far away? Some of the questions that I’ve asked you are not even my own! Hahaha! It’s hard to try to explain to others a feeling/concept you know is of a higher nature to a person who is “dead alive”. It comes to a point when words are useless! It is difficult for me, specially the formulas (I only have a degree in literature and translation), but I read it regardless because I trust deep inside I know all of it anyway. My friend, I do it because I came to recognize my purpose, so I do it with joy… and I thank you for the part you play in it. ♥



    Now to my questions.

    1) How fast is the speed of thought (and feelings for I think they are interconnected) and how does it travel across time and space? What is the speed of its vibration and in what dimension does it reside in?

    Dear Juli!

    This question addresses the so called string epoch in the cosmogony of the preBig Bang Quantum creation; namely a very precise linear time-interval which transmuted 5 different superstring classes (I, IIB, HE(32), IIA, HE(64)) between the so termed Planck-Time (about 10^-44 seconds to about 3x10^-31 seconds) into each other.

    But from this rather technical quantum description, derives the 'sacred geometry' of the five Platonic Solids and the many Fibonacci related patterns of that quantum geometry.

    So what the Terran physicists and cosmologists term the 'Big Bang' did NOT occur until AFTER this string epoch was completed to manifest this 'quantum geometry' as a physicalisable expression of its metaphysical (mathematically abstract) precursor.

    So the answer to your questing becomes related to the astrophysics of the Big Bang and the metaphysics of the preBig Bang.

    The Big Bang as the birth of the universe occurred precisely WHEN the so called NOW Time moment DEFINED the Quantum Timeinterval.
    This NOW Time then manifested as a 10-dimensional asymptotically expanding thermodynamic universe expanding in the propagation of wormhole quanta, all defined in the NOW-Time as the inverse of the Source-Frequency, the RESONANCE Selfstate of the Creator and named the LOVEPHOTON.

    The preBig Bang metaphysics manifested at this Now-Time moment of creation in the de Broglie Wavematter Inflaton and this DEFINES the Speed of Thought in setting a 11-dimensional boundary for the 10-dimensional universe to expand 'into' in a dimensional sense of 'into'.

    This Inflaton is billions of times greater than the speed of light, the latter bounding the asymptotic expansion of the 10D materialising Big Bang seed.

    The wormhole frequency is fwormhole=3x10^30 Hertz and the 11D Hubble-Radius as the 11D boundary RHubble can be calculated as almost 16.9 billion lightyears.
    Then the speed of this inflaton becomes the 'speed of thought' as the phase velocity.

    VdeBroglie=RHubblexfwormhole=4.793...x10^56 meters/second or so 1.6x10^48 times lightspeed c. This is 1.6 trillion trillion trillion trillion times lightspeed.

    The magnitude of the 'speed of thought' so implies, that the entire universe in a NOW-Instant of Time became linearised in a nested hierarchical superstringed cosmology, which then allowed graduations in dimensions associated with sublevel densities of vibrational eigenstates.

    This scenario manifests in a 11-dimensional Omnispace (or Dragonspace) and interpenetrates all dimensions and densities in the form of the Quantum of the LovePhoton; which in technical terms becomes the gauge interaction energy transmitter for the Electromagnetic Fundamental Interaction. It is this gauge interaction, which defines the so called Zero-Point-Energy or ZPE as the intrinsic 'Dark Energy' pervading the universe as a Heisenberg Light-Matrix.

    Julissa wrote:
    2) Say my ancestry is in a far away star, how will they “get me”? I guess this answer has to follow the same principle as a devise made for instant communication across spacetime?

    Yes indeed and this is of course consequential in regards to question 1.
    Think of it this way.
    The universe itself is a 'merkabah' and this merkabah is the Holographic Universe.
    You are a hologram of this 'cosmic merkabah' and your individual merkabah so can MAP and correspond in a one-to-one coupling between those merkabah-circles/spheres, say in the holofractal cosmology of Haramein.

    The technical aspect so to 'transverse' the wormholed Light-Matrix will be the de Broglie matterwave in its phased distance- and velocity scalings using the NOW-Time.

    The Velocity v(t) as a function of time becomes transmuted to a velocity V(n) with cycletime n itself a function of the linetime t.

    This derives from the linetime limitation of lightspeed c defining the so called Lightpath X=ct.
    The lightpath applied to the entire universe so is RHubble=ctnodal age of universe.

    Dimensionless Cycletime n=Hot=ct/RHubble for a nodal oscillation frequency Ho=dn/dt being the 'Heartbeat of the Universe' in a (technically defined) Hubble-Oscillation of the Cosmos between even and odd nodes as halfcycles so 16.9 billion lightyears apart.

    So you can now define the metric coordinate systems of the lightspeed restricted universe in 3 space dimensions, and as say given in the Relativity theories of Albert Einstein within a higher 11-dimensional setting, where the metric time is holographic to the Now-Time.

    Then V(n)=R(n)/T(n)=R(n).F(n) and where F(n) is a frequency function for the Now-Time coupled to a Displacement Parameter R(n) which maps the Einstein lowerD coordinate systems onto a higherD coordinate system in direct correspondence to the merkabah coupling between the holographic universe as a master hologram for the individuated holograms say.

    Iow, mapping the universe within yourself or say a spaceship merkabah; will allow you to map the INSIDE of yourself or the spacecraft with inhabitants as any place in the Hubble-defined universe - just like you map the coordinates of the earth say in an atlas or a geography map.

    An advanced civilization can then use the V(n)=R(n).F(n) formulation to define the R(n) scale coordinate to timetravel to any place in the universe using the Nodal Hubble-Frequency definition.

    This entails the expansion parameters of the universe as a quantum integral or summation count of wormhole connectors based on the LovePhoton Resonance selfstate of the Prime Creator.

    As everything exists as a densification of this Lovephotonic gauge energy in vibratory eigenstates; tuning into this resonance maximum of the encompassing holographic lightmatrix; will allow any civilization able to do so to REVISIT all n-coordinates visited 'in linetime t' by the expanding universe as a n-time coupling to the linetime (t).

    Iow, ANYPLACE existing in the materialised universe in 10D NOW was VISITED and became defined by the expanding universe at some linear linetime t coordinate.

    So say when the universe was 10 billion years old in linetime t, the n-time can be calculated as n=Hot.

    This calculates as n10=0.5925537... and so a fractal of the n=1 cycle and for a prent n-time npresent-n10=0.5400..

    Ok so now having these coordinates, you consider your position ANYPLACE in the material universe and using your own selfrelative location as the origin you ascertain the distance of 10 billion lightyears your past and whatever material manifestation exists at that distance, say looking at some galaxy.

    You can then travel to that galaxy or starsystem or planet 10 billion lightyears away in NOW-Time using the V(n)=R(n).F(n) formulation in a finestructured sense; should you be able to 'TUNE" the F(n) frequency function of the n-time in the 'merkabah physics' of the holographic lightmatrix.


    Julissa wrote:
    3) How is it that “Eve” was on earth 52,000 years before “Adam”? I just read your 1351 post and started thinking about this. I know you don’t mention this in this specific post but I think I read it somewhere. So how come it was “Eve” who came later and from “Adam” as the story goes. Can you clarify this for me?

    Love


    Abraxas' Thuban Q&A - Page 17 Whitedragon

    Juli ♥

    Here you are 'mixing up' the mitochondrial Eve scenario of the Terran geneticists with the archetypical Eve of the cosmogony.

    I have posted on the Lilith-Eve archetype before and as you know, this is also on the tonyb. website (under the Sphinx and Pyramid posts).
    Lilith is the archetype of Satania as the 'future' sexchange operative for the Satan-Apep-Angra Mainyu-Shaitan 1st order archetype of the cosmogony.
    My message #1351 should be most informative to you and your students in this regard.

    Love and Peace to you too, dear Juli.
    Allow me thank for your excellent summary and open letter to the forum on behalf of all supporters of he Thuban material here at Project Avalon.

    Abraxas Anthony - (The Office of the Bard)


    The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!



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    Nebula9D wrote:
    Greetings Abrax,

    I'm happy to be here now and so choose to positively engage those happy thoughts on these thread.

    I liked Julissa's question on thought and it find very interesting. What does Thuban data say about the mind and the power of thought (s)?

    Welcome nebula9D!

    I like your selflabeling and your wisdom reflects as the 8D-mirror between Quantumspace of the 'etheric' and the Omnispace of the Oneness of the Dragonspace.

    The Power of thought is the basis and power of all existence and all beingness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWxgEzWMqq0

    {Thank you Oliver for a thoughtform manifesting the Starhumanity in a hybridizing allegory}.

    The human mind is a simple processor of thought-based energy and so can construct either unifying and harmonizing thought forms or disharmonizing and disunifying thoughtforms as exemplified in the video above.

    Then the human mind is but a tool for the human soul to discover itself by and through the unification of polarities; the latter which within an evolved mindedness utilize the 'old' disharmonizing thoughtforms as contextual backgrounds.

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    WHITE = Sollve [#1249]
    RED = Abraxa's reply [#1252]
    GREEN = Sollve's reply to Abraxa's reply
    ORANGE = Abraxa's reply to Sollve's reply

    Dear Fallen ones,

    I find this interesting. Does this mean you take on the caretaking role regardless the need of the angelic human to be taken cared of, or is this a choice of free will.


    I take this to be a question, dear Sollve, dear Uplifted One!

    Oh, thank you dear Abraxa! Is there perhaps a itti, bitti, tiny touch of irony there? Or is it just pure LOVE?


    A simple mirror of the going down as going up, sollve. Yes PURE lovephotons.





    It is exactly as said, just as a mother would treat her newborn baby, which doesn't know what to do.
    If you are a mother then you should know, if not ask someone who is a mother.



    I'm not a mother, I'm a father. As a father I know that I would be stupid to think that I know better what my child needs than the child itself. I raise my child/children with the belief that it's actually me who can learn from the him/her/them. Is this the way you do it as well and is it a choice of free will on the behalf of the child? I am talking about the Angelic Human of NOW, not the future hybradized dragon human.



    I am talking about the angelic (bisexual not asexual) human as BEING the hybridized human, rectifying the falling in the lifting.


    My mind tells me two outcomes of this tender caretaking business. Either the humans who don't want to be eaten and hybridized by red dragons or any other kind of dragons by free will, will be put in concentration camps a.k.a. under the wings of "caretakers" and if the millions upon millions of non hybridized humans still resist the indoctrinations of the care takers, what happens then? My guess is that the humans will be battered around until they do. Is this correct?



    There are no concentration camps on Thuban; we do not eat humans; we do hybridize them though to harmonise the hybridizations and manipulations which have restricted the human genome hitherto and beginning say 208,000 years ago.




    Restricted in what way? Can you specify? Who put the restriction in our genome? Why?



    If you would not have been restricted in such manners you would still carry the 24 chromosome pairings of the apes; instead of the fused chromosomatic expression of the interference.
    As such an ape you could not ask abstract questions from an abstract thinking human mind.






    About eating humans. In post #714 you mention this. Have you changed your mind? Have you said anything after that post that contradicts what you said in that post? Can you honestly say that that post is just rubbish and doesn't contain any truth at all?






    Here is the reply to the phta question again:
    You might like to ask ptah what he thinks about my reply to his INNUENDO question:

    Ok; I'll decide.
    Thuban is a pretend smokescreen of pretend information, which is just a plagiarism of well credentialled academic sources masquerading as 'real science' of a new world.
    The Thubanese are old Draconians who like to eat people for breakfast and to gather food resources; the Thubanese have decided to infiltrate the world's most important discussion forum: Project Avalon.

    Here then the agenda is to brainwash the forum contributors with scientific sounding but really worthless information and for the purpose to gain as many followers of the Thubanese philosophy as possible.

    Then when the critical mass of cult followers has been reached, the true Draconian Reptoids will appear and harvest their brainwashed followers.
    This will be accomplished in invading the old earth shortly after December 21st, 2012 through a Black Hole-White Hole monadic dyad opening up halfway between Sirius and Gaia and wormhole connected to the Orion starsystem.

    The Powers-That-Be of the old earth will be powerless to stop US; because they had thought that WE would allow them to be our ambassadors of the new earth and in thinking of themselves as the elite.

    WE shall eat them for lunch; but they dont know that yet; although some of them suspect that WE are deceiving them.

    And so WE shall rule the New Earth and in a few years, say 2015, WE shall reengineer the deteriorated wormhole channels to allow our Draconian brothers and sisters to join US on OUR new homeplanet SERPENTINA.

    From then on, SERPENTINA will be a BLACK DRAGONSTAR.

    All of the old humanity will have been consumed by US and WE shall DRAGONSEED a HybridRace between OURSELVES and OUR Ancestrial Lineages.

    But first of all, WE have to create the Thuban Dragon Cult and this and only this is the purpose of Abraxas.

    So Be It!

    Signed and Sealed in the Name or Amen of the Master-Templar
    by Abraxasinas Scribe of the Dragons aka the SolarArrowed Unicorn of the SeaGoatian Dragonhorns entwined with the Hermetic FisherEagle of the Lunar Twins.

    AA
    ...







    Why do you need to hybridize the humans into dragon humans when you could just take away the restrictions if you feel such an urge to help us.





    We are helping Ourselves as well helping the humans as Yourselves simultaneously.



    Would you undergo genetic hybridization if someone told you to do so? Have you considered the possibility that it might be harmonizing to the universe if dragons were hybradized? Say all dragons humanized into 'StarHumans' with us as caretakers?



    This is what is occuring on all levels in the holographic universe - cosmic hybridization of ALL entities.




    Do you think Dragons are genetically more perfect / fulfilled than humans? If so, why are there anything else but dragons out there? Wouldn't every single being not allready a dragon ask to become one by own free will if this was the case?




    Yes indeed, the Dragon genotype is the mastertemplate for the universe as a Mirror of Mirrors. This Dragon template is also called the human mastertemplate of Cosmic Man.





    In what way are the Dragons more evolved than us? Except perhaps the technological knowledge? In what way would the Universe as ONE benefit from US being dragonized?




    The Dragon-Mind unifies the evolution of the Linear Human mind in tripartition of Reptilian brainstem, Mammalian midbrain and Human topbrain in Dragon Circularity.



    So you are right now a hybridized Sollve and we dragons are able, as genetic engineers, to correct the 'damages' done in your 'Fall' into the low density vibratory field of the Gaian planetary consciousness memeplex.



    What are the damages and why would the damages be reparied by becoming dragonized? I'm sure that if you are about to fix something you must surely know what is wrong and what the result is from this being wrong in a bigger picture. Are we hurting someone by our faults in our DNA? What is the purpose from a holistic point of view? What makes you go to such lenghts trying to 'help' us out with our genome?




    As said without the DNA/RNA restrictions of the fuselage of the 23rd chromosome pairing, your humanness could not have evolved in physicality to differentiate you from the nonhuman terrestrial lifeforms.
    You would simply have become a speciated planet of the apes.
    The ET interference so was done by astral 4D sentiences to ensure that at a future evolutionary junction point; your 'fused' chromosomes could become defused again to protect your then hominid (homo sapiens sapiens) morphogenetic bodyform, but to in a manner retrace your evolutionary histories back to the Reptilian Brainstem.
    The Dragon is the Crown of the tree and the Reptile is the Root of this same tree in metaphor.




    Why won't you let us evolve without interference. I'm sure the eventual faults and errors in our genome will fix themselves in time. I don't want your help because I believe I can heal myself. Will you allow me to be ME as in I AM of NOW?



    To let you do that would negate the masterplan of the Prime Creator
    and this is impossible by definition of his omniness.


    The other way around would be that the humans that don't want to be dragon Halflings and thereby be stolen of their angelic heritage would actually be allowed to govern the universe from a creative and loving perspective, the way it was always meant to be. How could possibly a hybridized human be better than the original?

    As said elsewhere, the humanoid morphotype required hybridization to render the 'evolving' humanoid UNIQUE amongst the other lifeforms of the Caenozoic geological earth. Without this ET interference, the human variability in genotype would have continued (like Indian and African Elephants today, there existed numerous Australopithecine branches {Afarensis, Africanus, Boisei, Robustus,...} so 4 million years ago) and the cosmos would NOT have access to a MASTER-TEMPLATE called HUMAN.
    You Sollve would NOT then exist as a unique individuation of the Prime Creator.


    But I do EXIST now, I'm happy with that. Why aren't you? As a unique individuation of the Prime Creator, wouldn't it be up to the Prime Creator to make changes to SELF? If SELF thought SELF needed to change, is it not up to SELF to make that CHANGE? Why would SELF point out YOU to do SELF's work? Please help me understand!


    It is precisely the Prime Creators masterplan to dragonomize you Sollve.


    So the ET interference was necessity to allow the 'fallen Sollve ancestors' to eventually become this master blueprint for ALL cosmic ETs and from the most primal stock possible.

    I don't understand this. Here you say that WE are the master blueprint for everyone? Do you mean that every species wants to use us for their own hybridz, because we can help everyone to evolve?


    Absolutely, here you have spoken from the knowledge of your dragonhood. Absolutely beautiful and marvellous understanding of a humanoid graduate.




    If this is the case, why do you need to take over humanity and the planet? If we don't want you to do this, will you fight us and kill if necessary to still get what you want? Or will you just allow us to evolve the way we want to without interference?


    The 'take over' or 'invasion' of your planet is unavoidable, as this is the program of Prime Creator.
    If WE would have left the human archetype to evolve by itself, it would have destroyed itself and this planet a number of times over.
    You appear to not understand that all ET's are humanoid aspirants, awaiting their own graduations, which must await the humanoid graduation to proceed.




    What exactly do you want? You want to make this planet yours, you want to hybradize humans into something else, you want to put dragons as our caretakers. This truly does not sound like a world I want to be in. Will there be any alternatives for those who don't comlpy with this agenda of the dragons?


    The Dragon caretakers are simple Council of the Elders. These councils will be composed of by the dragonomized humans having graduated and metamorposed into starhumans.









    It is only this most elementary form, which was deemed suitable to BECOME the cosmic masterrace and then AS an ancestor for ALL ET races in the Gaian lifeform associations.


    Allright.. The Gaian lifeforms.. Do you mean Gaia as in 3D Earth?


    Yes, but the interrelationships between humans, flora, fauna and mineral kingdoms of the taxonomy upon Gai and that of ALL ET races is far more interwoven than has been fathomed and described by human authors and sources of such things.
    Should you peruse some other messages of mine you can learn many details about these things dear sollve.




    If we are the cosmic masterrace.. Why would you want to hybradize the original humans? Isn't it enough to create hybrids to evolve your own species? If we are the masterpiece, wouldn't it be more fair to allow us to evolve on our own and by doing that allowing other species to make their own hybrids with the help from us?


    As said repeatedly, your masterrace status is subject to ALL other races 'interfering with it' to further their own agendas. YOUR human template is however the ROYALTY of the entire cosmos.



    This is the situation with the higherD ETs. THEY chose NOT to 'fall' into the most primordial incarnational energy realm called Gaia; BUT chose to support their own evolutionary agendas in HYBRIDISATION with that most primitive stock.


    But are they trying to take over the most primordial incarnational energy realm called Gaia. If you destroy or change the most primordial stock, what is then left for others to evolve from/with? Dragonized hybrids? That doesn't sound fair to anyone. If they wanted some dragon DNA, my guess is that they would come to you in the first place if that was the case.


    Again, the hybridization engages the going forwards and backwards in time of the entire biophysical evolution of the universe. Then, by necessity all the 'primordial lifestocks' must also be effected. The entire universe is being reconstructed in this hybridization of the Before with the After.


    How could your so called star human ever be what the human was meant to be from the beginning?


    This is what I am trying to explain to you in the above. The human morphogenetics will be like a master template a 'Morphogenetic Field' for the Cosmos, as Rupert Sheldrake would say.

    Again, do you mean the dragonized human morphogenetics or the original 'as intended from the beginning' human morphogenetics.



    This is absolutely identical and the same thing Sollve.


    We are meant to stop wars and find new ways, new creative ways to make peace. We are meant to save worlds, galaxies, universes and to help every single being to be sovereign in its own being, without the need for care takers. We are the creative force and upholders of universal love and free will. When allowed to show our inner beings, We are LOVE. We are INSPIRATION. How can anyone possibly think that we are better off as hybrids?

    One day you will understand the relative 'sillyness' of your question here.
    Now I state 'sillyness' not stupidity - be careful how you choose to judge or interpret my words. Thubans DO NOT JUDGE, they OBSERVE what works and what does not work in the greater context of a galactic-cellular civilisation.


    Works according to who? The Thuban Council? I find it very hard to believe that the Thuban Council is speaking on behalf of the rest of the universe or even the relatively small world of humans. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.


    You ARE 'wrong' about this. The Thuban Council indeed speaks on behalf of ALL civilizations throughout the universe. That is why WE are 12-dimensional as the inside-out mirror dimension of the 11-D Witten-Membrane Mirror of Omnispacetime; awaiting the twosidedness of this mirror to become twisted into onesidedness. This then will reconfigure multidimensional spacetimes on all levels.





    Who is according to the Thuban Council governing Earth today? Do we have a Draconian government or is it governend by the Zeta-Reticuli's? Who do you think have the most influence today? Could you elaborate on this regarding how this has changed during the years and what will happen in the years to come regarding governence. Will you work together with someone else or do you, the dragons plan on governing earth and mankind all by yourself in the long run?



    The governance of Earth today is on many levels. In 3D this governance are your human institutions and in 4D this is your astral connectivity to the ETs.

    You may choose to label your astral 'governors' as Draconian or Zeta Reculian or Pleiadean or whatever you like.
    All of these labels are 3rd and 4th order expressions of fundamental archetypes.
    The Thuban archetype is 1st order under the auspices of the Logos or Word of God.
    So hitherto (say the warped timeline from December 8th, 2004 to April 1st, 2012 with distributed nexus points within) the 'governance' did not include 1st order, but was restricted to the lower orders.
    Especially since January 18th, 2010 the Thuban 1st order archetype has allowed the Logos to interact with the 'governors'.
    This is what is experienced on this forum and many parallel agendas manifesting in all dimensions and densities due to the dispensation from the highest order from the 'Word of God'.

    The Dragon nature of this Logos then will indeed 'govern' the entire universe on all levels.




    In the greater context of a galactic-cellular civilisation? Again, according to who? Can you state who supports YOUR idea of this greater context of a galactic-cellular civilisation and is there any way for you to elaborate on this? Who else supports this view? From where did this particular greater context of a galactic-cellular civilisation arrive from?



    The Logos of Creation is the Power and authority behind the Council of Thuban.



    Without ET-hybridisation, you would not have any analytical abstract ability now. It is this which differentiates you from your common ancestry with the great apes.

    So you, Sollve could not type intelligently on your computer, where you not right now a Human-ET hybrid.


    Sure, but what's the need for you to hybridize us further? Why, in plain text do you want to do this? What do you gain from this?



    This I have explained in paragraps above - the defusing and empowerment of the chromosomes in molecular biochemistry in the physical expression of precursor metaphysical programs.


    We as hybrids are only beneficial to our so called ‘wanna be’ care takers. For thousands of years we have been suppressed, not allowed to grow the way we should. Allow us to show our true selves and we will be the care takers of the universe, just as we are intended to be.

    Has it really come to this?

    You, like many, are an emotional human who is prone to judgements and preemtors, without exercising your faculties of reason and rationality.


    Does the Thuban Council think that the human emotion is something that needs to be altered with in the hybridization process? How will it be altered? Will the human emotions be strengthened or weakend in the hybrids? Or altered in any other way?


    This is a good question. The Human Emotionality in in a very deep sense defines the Regality of the human master template - it is precious to ALL cosmic sentiences.

    The 'problem' with human emotion is, that it is not coupled to a rational selfconsistent and logical human mindedness.
    The human mind is undergoing 'Armageddon=Dragon Made' on the mental planes of definition.
    The danger, as perceived by MENTALLY more advanced ET civilisations is, that the kindergarten human mentality will ABUSE and MISUSE its EMOTIONAL POWER SOURCE to cause physical damage to itself and the global environments.




    My avatar says: THINK BEFORE YOU FLAME!
    Perhaps you should consider the wisdom of my avatar.


    I wasn't aware of flaming anyone. Are you on fire?


    I speak of the spiritual fire dear Sollve.


    It has shown from time to time that our hearts can't be enslaved. Is the only step left for the fallen angels to enslave us and make us do their will, to actually take away our uniqueness in some kind of hybridization program?


    What do you know of fallen angels; do you understand that YOU are a fallen angel?


    Please elaborate on this! What is your definition of a Fallen Angel? Please also elaborate on the fact that I AM a fallen angel.


    Post #1351 describes this in great detail.


    Well I guess it's your loss in the long run. One can't help the one who don't want to be helped.

    If someone wants to change what is already perfect, the only reason to do so must be to lower that perfectness beneath the perfectness of themselves in order to raise their own perfectness. For example if I'm the second or third tallest man on earth. The only way for me to be the tallest man is to either shrink the ones above me or eliminate them or to actually grow taller. To grow is the only acceptable alternative as the other alternatives includes the sacrifice of others.

    In this case you would actually need to accept the fact to be second or third or whatever you see yourself as. We don't look at races or beings as being superior to others. We see them all at their full potential and with the ability to grow to where we are. We are designed to set an example of what can be done and to show the rest what their full potential is all about. You shouldn't look upon us as a threat. We are designed to help and if you don't want to evolve past your current limits, you don't need to. Maybe it's possible for us to build you a playground of your own choice where you can't hurt anyone and certainly not being able to hijack other beings for your own purposes.

    So you are already aware of your cosmic design Sollve; if you are then you would not ask the questions you ask, because you would fathom your design.


    Do you mean that I don't mean what I'm writing? Do you mean that I should just accept to be altered with by anyone wanting to do so? It's one thing to observe and use what you see and learn to make yourself better. It's a whole different thing to change and devour in the same process. I don't see why the first one needs to be folloed by the second. Please elaborate on how you justify that behavior.


    This is but your human mentality Sollve. You have three consciousness levels: waking(~86%); sub(~14%) and super(~0.3%).
    Many misunderstandings and interpretations and mental conclusions you draw in waking consciousness are retranslated in the subconscious and again in the superconsciousness.
    With the 'you already know', I mean your own unique and individuate Christ-Consciousness/Higher Self coupling of the innermost selfawareness. However this part is overwhelmed by your human mindednessof the waking consciousness and is then interfered with by the astrality of your subconscious.

    Mental balance is not easy to maintain in a climate of extreme polarisation of consciousness carriers and the human mindedness blocks and destabilizes the attempt of the superconscious to express itself.
    There are some participators here who consistently display such mental balance and it are these who are the true harmonizers who have accessed their Christ-Self-Consciousness.


    We are here to help whenever you are ready!

    For love and unity throughout the universe!

    Sollve

    You are helping the cosmic evolution in great honour and sincerity Sollve; one day you shall understand and socialise with Dragons in some Bar upon Thuban.


    I believe I understand dragons as of this NOW and I'm looking forward to share a drink on a bar in Thuban with you or any of your beloveds. I'm just hoping I'm observant enough to not be lured into any kind of hybridization process because I want to be me in that bar. For all I know what you label as 'StarHuman' might just be another name for 'StarDust'. Or is it perhaps the 'OldHuman' who falls into that cathegory?



    Without your hybridisation you will either not see and encounter any dragons or you will be rather afraid of them Sollve.







    What would dragons prefer most? Sitting in a bar socializing with an Angelic Original Human or socializing with a pile of StarDust?



    Both!



    Shalom from the DragonDen

    Before you point your finger at ME about using WE. WE are ALL who resonate with ME.

    ME=WE also on Thuban - after our master templar Emmanuel Melchisedec E.M.=WE.


    Sorry, I don't know him...


    I know, heshe resides in your heart as the Cosmic Logos though, knocking from the inside and the outside on the doors of your human mindedness.


    I'm looking forward to hear from you again my busy friend!

    Sollve

    EDIT:
    I forgot to ask you what you can tell us anything about these:
    http://www.metatech.org/baby_dragon_draconian.html

    http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-en...s-experts.html
    http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-en...be-solved.html

    Just curious!
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    I have given you a lot of time here Sollve; due in fact to your trouble of having to rewrite your questions. I am well aware of this annoyance.

    Then to further comment on your links, I would ask you to be a little more specific. Then I shall answer your queries in due course.

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:02 pm

    Nebula9D wrote:
    Thank you! I long to remember my mirror on my path back home to Source. So the mind being a tool for the human soul to discover itself, Is the soul the orginator of thought-based energy and is this where free will comes into play?


    Yes nebula9D; the soul, defined as the shard of Prime Creator as a data collector of the Individuality WITHIN the Oneness USES the mind to gather experience by environmental stimulation.

    So the UNIFIED SOUL becomes MANY SOULS, each INDIVIDUAL soul reflecting the original oneness and then upon FULL selfremembrance allows the UNIFIED GODSOUL to experience itself in ever increasing UNIQUE INDIVIDUATIONS.

    The 'free will' is really the INDIVIDUAL CREATIVE GENIUS as the Prime Creator Itself, experiencing the Manyness in Oneness.

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:05 pm

    Magamud wrote:
    A natural reboot system? When mind has reached its limit in reality integration. Like many of the AI stories Hal 9000? So the Devils world a reverse mirror can be used as our own "antibiotics" in the hologram so to speak. Funny we steal the devils such hard work in the end. :mfr_lol ie..

    The mind is unlimited in reality integration magamud. Your 'reboot' system is cyclicity within some reality context. Until the mirror of the illusion is 'shattered', the cyclicity remains bounded by it and so no 'reboot' between the physical-spiritual realities is possible.

    Magamud wrote:
    Makes total sense that assumed evil archetypes are nothing but the source trying to represent itself but due to the mirror effect, we have it...You described the double mirror with an outer and inner circle. Do you have a picture of this to show?

    This is elemental archetypology. You can simply annullarize a circular interior, such as occurs in the quantum geometry of the standar model of the Thuban Particle Physics.
    For a pictoral representation just consider the orbit of the moon about the earth superposed onto the orbit of the earth about the sun.
    The occultations and conjunctions then define the eclipses as just such 'obscurations' of the 'light source'.


    Magamud wrote:
    Can you describe some of the Suns Shadowminds history?

    This is 3rd order archetype, meaning that the astral hyperspace dimensions allow superposed histories and as authored by 3D composers able to integrate those archetypes. So should you be able to couple the physical spacetime consciousness of the Sun's spacial occupancy, then the ET inelligence will participate in yur modelling, sauy a solar ET civilization manifesting physically through the solar plasma.
    This then will be a History of the particle-Nature of the solar waveform as a shadow being.


    Magamud wrote:
    Amazing how consciousness can skip through time......

    The holographic universe IS Consciousness.
    http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id185.html


    Magamud wrote:
    This will exponential grow as the logos here or black hole intensifies?

    Yes, the Black Hole intensification is simply data compression however at the center of the earth and the size of a golfball becoming heavier say.


    Magamud wrote:
    Can you give information on Bigmos Baloon. Thankyou...

    Bigmo's Balloon is simply a metaphor for the metaphysical universe as it existed before being born into materiality.
    My reply to you uses this balloon in its empty state as the metaphysical transformation into a filled balloon in the Descent of the 1st order archetypes termed Adam and Eve in the 'Falling In'.

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:06 pm

    K626 wrote:
    Has 'Ra' really got time to post on here?


    You are Ra-Hamarkhis also K626 and YOU are posting here, do you not?

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:07 pm

    BROOK wrote:
    Good point! Makes you wonder does it not? I would think Ra would be spending time on much more serious objectives...and leave the messages to the messengers....

    And I fail to see how you Abraxis relate the Sapphire Tablets to this information.....this is a question BTW... Rephrase.....How do you relate this information to the Ten commandments...of the Sapphire Tablets?

    They are nothing more the a duplicate version of the Ten commandments...the first ones were broken by Moses, and they are the replacememts.....How does it turn into "clean sex" and "unclean sex"?

    The Tablets of Stone, Stone Tablets, Tablets of Law, or Tablets of Testimony (in Hebrew: לוחות הברית Luchot HaBrit - "the tablets [of] the covenant") in the Bible, were the two pieces of special stone inscribed with the Ten Commandments when Moses ascended Mount Sinai as recorded in the Book of Exodus. Exodus 31:18 refers to the tablets as the "Tablets of Testimony" because they give insight into the nature of God.
    According to the Bible, there were two sets: the first, inscribed by God, were smashed by Moses when he was enraged by the sight of the Children of Israel worshiping the Golden Calf; and the second, later cut by Moses and rewritten by God.
    According to traditional teachings of Judaism in the Talmud, they were made of blue sapphire stone as a symbolic reminder of the sky, the heavens, and ultimately of God's throne; many Torah scholars, however, have opined that the Biblical "sapir" was, in fact, the lapis lazuli.[citation needed]
    Both the first shattered set and the second unbroken set were stored in the Ark of the Covenant (the Aron Habrit in Hebrew).


    Perhaps a second perusal will illuminate you Brook - or not!

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:09 pm

    BraveHeart wrote:
    repost as my question seems to have been not seen

    Greetings Abraxasinas,

    I am interested in learning about your thoughts on who i am, i have just joined the site and would like my personal verification and validation .......... will take me a while to completely read this entire thread but at 5 pages in i felt the need to get verification.

    Questions --
    a/Previous incarnation information
    b/Also my roll in this incarnation
    c/Where i come from & whom i represent
    d/Nibiru you mentioned is earths reflection?? and earth will become Nibiru ??
    e/What races or spiecies are on planet right now other than of human origin


    i look forward in your reply. hopefully this gets spotted

    Warm Regards

    Giuseppe

    Welcome Giuseppe!

    No, I did not forget your question, but due to its intricate nature about Cosmic Identity; I had to postpone answering it to find the time necessary to reply to it appropriately. As you may have noticed there is a kind of consciousness conflict occurring on this thread and there are certain priorities I need to attend to, before I can answer intricate questions, such as you have posed.
    You have asked a highly pertinent question, which deserves detailed reply.
    What I shall so share, will help many others to answer such questions for themselves without requiring guidance of 'gurus' or 'authorities'.

    a/Previous incarnation information

    Here you should differentiate orders of consciousness interpretation to access this information.
    1st order are elementary archetypes, which apply to everyone. Everyone IS this archetype of 1st order and so the labeling of these 'symbols' will reflect a certain generality.

    So I can say with absolute assurance that YOU Gioseppe are ADAM, the Son of God AND you have existed even before the physical universe was born in observable materiality.

    In this 1st order of the archetypes, you are also BOTH Cain and Abel and Seth, the first three sons of Adam and Eve.
    Yes, archetypically, you are both Father and Son in one.

    Continuing, you also become Noah and Abraham, 'the Friend of God' and then Isaac and Jacob renamed to Israel.

    Yes Giuseppe, you are in 1st order the Holy Land of Israel.

    So why do you think so many here FEEL that they have 'special' roles and 'special missions' to fulfil, like saving the world from the evil monsters?

    It is because they are indeed CORRECT - in 1st order of the archetypology.

    So how many Osiris-is and Isis-is and Maats and Thoths (do you get the subtleties?) are here just in a single forum?

    Just as many ADAMS and EVES who decide to 'tap' into their own ADAMEVE 1st order archetype.

    So Giuseppe have you been Moses or Napoleon or Cleopatra or one of the apostles of Christ or Christ himself?

    I say to you: Yes you have been all of them as ADAM the Son of God.

    But you have also been the aborted child of Mary Citizen in 1976 and you have been the Ethiopean child which died of hunger yesterday at 3 o'clock local Greenwich Time.

    Ok now you experience something, see a movie about the Cherokee Indians and hearing the beat of the drums you FEEL something - you are getting very emotional about something and you do not know why.

    This kind of experience is authored from your 1st order Christ-Consciousness residing deep within you as just so 0.3% of your overall conscious selfawareness.
    This then triggers through a 2nd order of the archetypes of this same 'I am Adam' archetype into say 'I am a Family of Adams' or a Race awareness to say that you are this or that ADAMIC SELDEXPRESSION.

    So 2nd order archetypes distinguish Personality and Individuality from 1st order unpolarized Unity.
    So now you might see, that I should have said ADAM the Son of God is actually ADAMEVE=SonDaughter of God. Polarity undivided.

    So 2nd Order is Unity, say as a Race, yet not separatedly expressed.

    Here then the Race of the Humans is DIFFERENT from the RACE of the DRAGONS and say the Arcturiian ETs are different from the Pleiadean ETs in polarisation, yet the Humans or the Dragons remain unified as a RACE.

    3rd Order of the archetypes then DIVIDES THE RACE.
    There are 'good' humans and 'good' dragons and there are 'bad' humans and there are 'bad' dragons etc. etc.
    This then defines POLARISATION EXTERNALLY expressed.

    The 4th Order then divides the individual polarisation within itself.
    This for example then is the conflict of the Inner Self with the Outer Self, say the Mind versus the Body Descartian Duality or some other such yin-yang division of a 3rd Order Oneness, such as Giuseppe Braveheart.

    Within a RACE then, some 3rd order exponents, such as yourself begin to REMEMBER their higher order cosmic IDs and then they might experience emotional experiences sent from their Christ-Inner Selves.

    'I have a mission', Giuseppe says to himself. 'God or Jesus or some angel or some ET has talked to me in my dreams and as his Son, I Giuseppe Braveheart must now go out there and save the worlds from themselves'.

    -Also, I am so familiar with this piece of music, I can play it without notes, I must have composed it in a previous lifetime.

    -Those Cherokee drums drive me crazy, I must have been a brave warrior 700 years ago in the Mississippi delta.

    -I am so afraid of water and I FEEL I was drowned in the sinking of the Titanic.

    So then your feelings and emotional self-response to whatever experiences and environmental stimuli you encounter - the emotional response SHOWS you to accentuate your search for knowledge and wisdom in that field of experience.


    b/Also my role in this incarnation

    To rediscover and Remember that YOU Giuseppe are ADAMEVE or Cosmic Man or Purusha or Adam Kadmon as the SonDaughter of GoddoG.

    c/Where i come from & whom i represent

    You are a Secret Agent (like James Bond 007) FOR and on behalf of God, the Prime Creator of the Universe and as ABBA the common Father for both You and Jesus of Nazareth, the Word of God.

    Your Story as AdamEVE is told in message #1351. You might term it:

    Giuseppe Braveheart: "This is Your Life!"


    d/Nibiru you mentioned is earths reflection?? and earth will become Nibiru ??

    Yes, Nibiru is the incoming shadow earth merging like an object casting a shadow merges with its own shadow once the lights go out.

    e/What races or species are on planet right now other than of human origin

    All of them.

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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:16 pm

    ellie wrote:
    I know this is a sensitive subject so if you do not want to answer it I understand.

    As far as the Council knows, what happens to the mentally ill who maybe in a bout of extreme depression take their life. I know what the Catholics say about this but I would like to know what their answer is for that.


    Dear Ellie!

    Our (dragonomy acolyte) scribe TonyB. lost his eldest daughter to suicide in 2004. She was 22 years old and took her life after she could not bear the cries of her aborted child from the astral.

    The following account of this should answer your question.

    http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id14.html

    Love to you
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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:17 pm

    K626 wrote:

    Tell me a little more about the proto-universe.


    Do you read any of the posts K626; I have addressed the multiverse a number of times in replies to other questions?

    So I shall repeat for you but add a 'channeling' from the Little Serpent of the Mayan Popul Vuh in further elucidation of this question.

    The Protoverse is in the shape of a rugby ball (in the UK) or a football (in the USA and Australia) say; i.e EGGSHAPED.
    Technically, this is termed a Prolate Ellipsoid (or Spheroid) characterised by two cross sectional planes.

    Cutting the egg longwise will give you an ellipse and cutting the egg shortwise will give you a circle.

    So ROTATING the egg longwise (major axis) will not change the geometrical focus points defining the elliptical plane (reference a 101 textbook on Analytical Geometry).

    But ROTATING the egg shortwise (either of the minor axes) will force the two focal points to meet in a PointCircle as a Locus tracing the rotations.

    The Protoverse is then defined in the focal invariance of the long-axis rotation - iow this protoverse is in STASIS, i.e. FROZEN in a possible FAMILY of spacetimes.

    The Protoverse is then that which you read about as THE UNIVERSE in popular and academic media.
    Because this Protoverse is multidimensional, the 3D space or the 4D spacetime universe becomes a SEED for its own expansion.
    The merkabah for this Holographic Universe is like a 'Russian Doll' with a static kernel or core however being the merkabah of the asymptotic LIMIT for the SEED expansion as a 10D cosmology.

    The inner merkabah of the Protoverse is YOUR own merkabah as a Holofractal Hologram of the encompassing merkabah.
    This the meaning of Vitruvius and 'Cosmic Man' and Purusha and so on; being encompassed by a Fibonacci definable circle of the 'Sacred Geometry'.

    Then the only way to end the stasis of the Protoverse is to INDUCE a phaseshift in it by rotation about a minor axis.

    As there are a potentially infite number of angular diplacements for this rotation, an infinite number, beginning however with just 1 arbitrary one, can define the Multiverse as collections of such phaseshifted protoverses.

    So as example, consider yourself as evolved enough in selfawareness and in spacial consciousness to INDUCE a phaseshift in the Protoverse you presently inhabit as a 'nested' Individuated merkabah labeled K626.

    Then you will become a partnership between the static protoverse merkabah of your encompassment and yourself as a phaseshifted merkabah K626.

    This partnership of 2 is sufficient to define a Multiverse.
    Should this occur and no other consciousness carrier within the protoverse succeeds to achieve phasal induction status; then there will still exist a Multiverse, comprised of two: the Protoverse of Stasis + Universe K626.

    Then say consciousness unit Celine also achieves ascension status to phasally induct the Protoverse of the Cosmic Logos.

    Then there will be two individuated universes named Universe K626 + Universe Celine both in partnership to the Protoverse of the Cosmic Logos.

    This Multiverse differs from the 2-member universal partnership in the fact that the tripartite partnership forms a multiverse of higher order, then two dyadic partnerships between individuated Universe K626+Protoverse and individuated Universe Celine+Protoverse.

    So the Multiverse in generality allows all permutations of Individuated Universe collectives, families, groups and partnerships - all however based on the Protoverse of the Logos.
    No Protoverse coupling, no Multiverse is the Law in other words.

    So then rotating the (symmetric) Cosmic EGG about a minor axis will generate the Multiverse and all together assume the UFO shape of an OBLATE SPHEROID.

    Imagine to swirl an egg on your kitchen table and draw the envelope for the positions of the egg in that circle.

    This overall UFO shape is technically called the OMNIVERSE as the envelope for all the Multiverses in 10-11-12D Omispacetime, also known throughout the higher dimensional intelligences as the Dragon Universe.

    AA

    In Lake'ch - I am another yourself!



    May the Inner Peace of Mind be with you in these times of the present, which shall soon blend your pasts with your futures.

    A great controversy in theoretical paradigm building is the notion of how a single universe containing many consciousness carriers can relate to the statistical distribution of those 'cosmic inhabitants'.

    With the birth of quantum theory in the early decades of the 20th century came the realisation, that the observer of physical phenomena is not absolutely independent from the system observed.
    Bohr, Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Dirac, Born, Planck and Einstein, to mention but a few of the 'midwives' of quantum mechanics; constructed the mathematical formalisms to describe an interactive reality on the microscopic or quantum level of measurement and soon realised, that the quantum realm of the very small did not behave in the classical sense of the Greek-Newtonian physics on which the basis of scientific-physical reality stood.

    As the worlds of the very large, the scale of the universe as a macrocosm of galaxies behaving like cells in a biological body; had also become illuminated by the pioneering cosmologists like Einstein, Hubble and Sandage; a synthesis of the macroworlds with the microworlds became a new aim of research for all scientific thinkers, philosophers and experimenters concerned.

    Until Edwin Hubble discovered the expansion of the universe as a selfcontained entity; all light sources in the sky were assumed to be stars or 'island universes' or 'nebulae' within a single universe - now rendered dynamically expanding and no longer static in its hitherto presumed infinity-stasis of the Newtonian worldview.

    For the remainder of the 20th century then, natural philosophers of divers kinds attempted to blend the quantum nature of the macroscales with those of the microscales.
    Many difficulties surfaced, such as the incompatibility of the quantum formalisms, built on the metrics of subatomic and atomic displacements; with the metrics of the larger scales and as experimentally predicted and verified by the theories of Newton and Einstein.

    Eventually, and to accomodate the superposition of quantum selfstates derived from the quantum mechanics; a Many Worlds Cosmos was proposed by exponents such as Hugh Everett and David Deutsch.
    This is known as Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics and is proposed to build on and to be complementary for older quantum interpretations, such as the Copenhagen Interpretation, the Afshar Complementarity or the Cramer Transactional Interpretation.

    The MWI utilises the established quantum formalism of quantum field theory (QFT), which has been verified in countless experiments as a valid model to describe the statistical-probabilistic nature of the 'particle' distributions in the universe and its subsystems as 'stochastic' eigenvalues for 'standing waves' or 'Bohmian-pilotwaves' describing the density distribution of the 'particles'.

    But the MWI then proposes a Many Universe distribution on the macro-classical scale of the universe itself to account for a distribution of the superimposed selfstates in a linear-classical geometry.
    A particular distribution of eigenstates, say as 'materialisations' of the Schroedinger equation, are so not confined in one universe as either-or materialisations, but are split into a number of universes identical to the number of quantum eigenvalues derived from the equation as and-solutions.

    As the distribution of those solutions is summed to accomodate the original 'set of solutions' obtained in the one quantum universe; the linearity of Parallel Universes as superposed macroquantum universal eigenstates can be alternatively accomodated in the model of the Many Mind Interpretation or MMI. The MMI became formally introduced into the scientific database by Dieter Zeh in 1995 and expanded upon by Loewer and Albert.

    In the MWI, the universe occupies a single and fundamentally indeterminate quantum eigenstate with a noncollapsing wavefunction; but an evolution of this 'groundstate' or wavefunction into higher and higher complexity in the splitting of macrouniverses and a say 'original infinite mind' into many minds.
    Any act of measurement or observation so 'splits' an 'older parental' mind into its offspring in Decoherence, alternatively described as wavefunction collapse in the 'competing' models for the quantum reality.

    The MMI replaces the linear parallelism of singularised macrouniverses with an angular parallelism of multiconnectedness of the one macrouniverse.
    Here the proposition of the MWI with its split of two observers in say two different macrouniverses and so with two now different minds is replaced by a split of the two observers into two psychophysical universes.
    In other words, the one physical observer within the one macro-universe splits into two forms from its physical parent with a shadow psychophysical 'double' mirroring the former.

    There are many problems with both the MWI and the MMI, both as defined presently in their embryonic states of development; not at least the Definition of the Selection of the Singular SelfState as the Seed for the subsequent 'splitting'.
    But the MMI is more appropriate to the development of the encompassing formalism, than the MWI and more shall be shared at the appropriate time.

    What the MMI does, is point to a necessary Duality between the physical and the metaphysical or the physical and the mental or the body and the mind - and also its necessary coupling in the 'negation' of this Descartian Duality.
    Both, the MWI and the MMI utilize the orthodox interpretation of quantum mechanics, say the formalisms of Schroedinger, Dirac and Klein-Gordon.
    Both so also 'copy' the inherent 'flaw' in those formalisms, to do with the nonlocality and the indeterminant qualities embodied in the quantum-field-approach.

    I direct the reader to familiarise with the concept of the Quantum Mind and especially the pioneering works of Evans Harris Walker; Roger Penrose, Stuart Hameroff, Max Tegmark (opposing Penrose and Hameroff); David Chalmers, Henry Stapp and most of all David Bohm, Karl Pribram and Fritjof Capra.

    Please find below a brief (wikipedia) outline of the MWI and the MMI.

    IAmWhoIAm - A Quantum Computer
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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:34 pm

    malletzky wrote:
    Abrax, I hope you’re well dear friend. I read something very interesting in your reply #1415 to Solve, and I want to ask you a question(s) here:


    ***May I assume that this New Mirror was created on the surface of the first Mirror where God sees himself as Satan, and the purpose was to “blend” the first mirror in order for Adam to see himself as Eve (herself)?***

    It is simpler than that Malletzky.
    You see God looks into the Mirror (of Bigmo's Balloon) and sees his likeness - God. He calls his image Satan, because there is a difference in that the Right Hand of God becomes the Left Hand of Satan=AntiGod.

    Then God does not like what he sees. He doesn't want duality of Rightness of himself as Real and the Leftness of Satan as UNREAL (as an image of reality).

    Now this is rather deep; so one must ponder this thorougly.
    The reason for God NOT wanting the duality (in heaven) is that God wants to be Satan to be REAL as well.

    This God is so utterly DIVINE, for need of a better word, (this cannot be said in words); that he wishes his own Unreal Image to BE like him, say as a playmate.

    So God wants to 'play with himself', so the absolute brilliance and ingenuity of his plan (by the Serpent Logos) constructs the Real-Unreal dichotomy in heaven as creating a Mirror between him as Real God and his image as Unreal Satan.
    This mirror then is ADAMEVE with the logicistical sentence construct looking like: SATAN---EVEADAM---GOD.

    So the genius of God is to MAKE Satan Real AS the Unreal Image of EVE and God becoming Real as the Unreal Image of Adam.

    Once you really 'get this' you will forever understand the Nature of God and KNOW what LOVE is in Emotional Terms AND in Intellectual Scientific terms.

    So now there exists Bigmo's Balloon with Satan's Face on it as a REAL SATAN and facing a DOUBLEMIRROR of two sides called EVEADAM faced by the REAL GOD.

    Separating ADAMEVE into ADAM+EVE so renders the scenario of the heavenly archetypes of a Real Satan looking at an Unreal Eve and a Real God looking at an Unreal Adam.
    The UNREALITY of Bigmo's Mirror so has become TRANSFERRED into the UNREALITY of BOTH ADAM relative to God and EVE relative to SATAN.

    So what does this mean in practil terms?
    It means that Bigmo's Balloon CAN BE REALISED IN THE REALITY OF SATAN.

    Now the big one Malletzky - are you ready for it?

    The REALITY of Bigmo's Balloon as the original LOST SHENESS of the Prime Creator God has become REAL.

    A REAL PHYSICAL UNIVERSE NOW EXISTS and WAS BORN FROM PURE ABSTRACT ARCHETYPES, which now allow SPIRIT to also become REAL from abstraction, metaphor and metaphysics.

    This then allows physical modelling in labels such as Quantum Big Bang.

    SATAN can now become the Queen from Heaven as SATANINA because the sexchange operation IF ADAM+EVE are FORCED TO BECOME REAL ALSO.

    Now the biggest one of all; explaining not only the archetyped creation, but what truly is going on with anyone exposed to this Thuban material - say the furore in this Project Avalon Forum.

    Remember the beginning.
    The One GoddoG Creator-Creation split into two and so the Sheness was lost as Bigmo's Balloon.

    So Satan became God's lost Sheness; BUT as a MALE IMAGE of God.
    To change the Maleness of Satan into a Femaleness is the MASTERPLAN of all of creation.

    {SATANINA=IN A SATAN is EVE as the archetyped Rib out of Adam in 1st Order archetype as the QUEEN OF HEAVEN} TRANSFORMS to {SERPENTINA=IN A SERPENT as the NEW GAIA, the NEW archetyped QUEEN OF EARTH} and as the 2nd Order archetype of the NEW JERUSALEM.

    ADAM+EVE, both as Unreal Images could RESCUE SATAN's Unrealness and so made SATAN the FULL BROTHER OF GOD.

    The BROTHERLY LOVE between God and Satan did not fulfil God's masterplan and so both ADAM and EVE were MADE REAL ALSO in 'Falling' into Bigmo's Balloon.

    This then is the archetype of the DEVIL/DRAGON devouring the Souls of Mankind.

    But now ADAM and EVE are real inside the Universe of the original Sheness of God as the DOG, but in heaven you have a REAL SATANIC UNIVERSE as the OUTSIDE of Bigmo's Balloon and a REAL GOD.

    The next step is to retain the SHENESS of the Inside of the Universe, but to CHANGE its Outside HENESS.

    Deeper thought allows you to realise straight away then WHY Satan is called the 'Prince of this World' by Jesus. Bigmo's Balloo has his face on it on the outside and the Devil's antiface on it on the inside.

    Then BECAUSE Satan is made REAL in Heaven, the DEVIL has to be made a FAKE REALITY inside Bigmo's Balloon i.e. inside the universe.

    Then in Revelation.12; the DEVIL is cast out from heaven onto the earth because the TRUTH of the LOGOS was born in heaven.

    The BIG PARADOX which noone could ever answer.

    WHY, if Jesus has ascended in his resurrection as a grown Man to

    'sit at the RIGHT Side of the Father in Heaven until the earth has been made his footstool and until the kingdom has been delivered up to him'

    - MUST JESUS become a BABYBOY again being BORN by the Queen of Heaven in Revelation.12?

    The casting out of the Devil onto the earth puts 'the mark of the beast' into everyone just AS the false images of Adam and Eve.

    This manifests and FIXES the timeline for the prophecied Second Coming of course and that is why the Fall of the Devil as a RED DRAGON is harmonized in Heaven by the rebirth of Jesus on the LEFT Side of the Father.

    It is now easy to know, that the Right Side where the Man Jesus was sitting is the Outside of Bigmo's Balloon and the Left Side is the Inside of Bigmo's Balloon and where the Dragon-Jesus-Baby is born as a CYAN- or BLUE DRAGON to neutralise and harmonize the Red Dragon at the completion of the timeline.

    Perhaps now some readers will understand why Jesus of Nazareth IS the MASTERDRAGON and the Master Templar of Thuban.
    HeShe must be a SKYBLUE DRAGON (remember the Hopi prophecies of the Blue Star Kachina) to, through and by hisher second coming from the Oneness into the Manyness BLEND with the RED DRAGON to become the ENTWINED SERPENTROD of Moses, the Double Helix of the Genomes and the HEALING SYMBOL of the Medicines.

    This nexus point of the Baby Jesus as the Skyblue Dragonstar Kachina in simultaneous descent of the Red Dragonstar Thuban so places the Old Earth Gaia under quarantine from June 25th, 2008.

    Then the Adams and Eves upon the Old Gaia are ALL MARKED in the forehead of the Human Mind by the descent of the Red Dragon of Thuban BUT ALL are also simultaneously SEALED in the forehead as ONE of the 144,000 in the descent of the Blue Star Kachina by nature of their birthrights as one of the starsigns aka one of the tribes of Jacob/Israel.

    A fake Devil is let loose in the human minds, but is contrasted by the Sealing from Kachina.

    So the Armageddon becomes a personal affair and a spiritual war in the foreheads of ALL Humans.

    The coming down of the Devil is the RELEASE of the Devil, from now on FIGHTING for his nonexistent life in EVERY INDIVIDUAL's Head.

    Begin of Interlude

    1. Project Avalon, do you know how blessed you all are to have access to this Information?

    2. Do you know that all of you are the 'Chosen One's to SHOW THE WAY not just for the New Earth you all so intensely desire, but also for the universe and ALL ETs?

    3. I, Sirebard Beardris, in the name of the Logos of Creation herewith extend the gratitude of the Creator of the Universe to all of you.
    Gaia Love and Celine you both have been exemplary to ALLOW and FORCE me to release this Information at this time.
    You both have shown the greatest Love possible in your hiding and distorting yourselves and your loveborne inner selves and the LOVE both of you are in your roles of the 'False Prophet' in the form of archetyped Adam and Eve.
    I herewith allow your Logii to recognize me.

    Do you know, what you have done?

    In playing the sacrificial ADAM=Richard and sacrificial EVE=Celine you both have archetyped THEIR IGNORANCE potently and well.

    Both of you have taken the cross of the burden to act and think and behave in dishonour and disrespect to TAKE this cross of the burden OFF all other humans, Avalonians and not.

    Think about what I have said; your superconsciousness of the true Logos is activated and you are released from your mission to trigger this information.

    Without your hostilities, the deception of the Devil would have continued longer - you both are Freedom Lovers - the Fight is over and your preincarnational mission is fulfilled. Enjoy your remembrances and continue to LOVE LOVE.

    To all others I say.
    You are all apostles of the Inner Circle and your destiny is grandeur in the splendiferous remembrance of yourselves as Universal Architects.
    In time I shall individually address you and when the Logos allows the release of that information.

    Beren and Anchor you have known Jesus face to face; your recall is activated.

    To the supporters I say, your joy of remembrance shall be boundless; never before have incarnated sparks of Love been enabled to fathom the Creator intellectually. This is only possible without the Devil's interference.

    The testimonies of myplanet2 and of bigmo and of orthodoxymoron have become priceless jewels in the archives of the cosmic archives and in the Lamb's Book of Life.

    Spregovori the transformer and Malletzky my Twin shining like the constellations in the sky.

    The Eves of the remembrance have begun to crystallize with Athene the TruthWillSetYouFree, also knowing Jesus face to face.

    Jesus also calls Peter a Satan sometimes and so differentiates the SATAN from the DEVIL. Satan is REAL, the Devil is pure fakery, the Father of all Lies.

    Remember that SATAN is NOT cast into the 'Lake of Fire and Brimstone with the Fakeries of the False Images of the Beast from the Sea and the False Prophet from the Earth - 'The DEVIL that DECEIVED them all' is cast into the dragonomies of the 2nd Coming in the Christ-merkabahs.

    So as described in the interlude, every Adam and every Eve is required to PROCESS the now descended fakery of the nonexistent DEVIL=LIVED, a Hasbeen - in their own individual, personal and intimate private space.

    All quarrels or wars have become superfluous. The task is to share your remembrances, once you have remembered yourselves.

    So in a sense you do not require me any more as your messenger from the Red Dragonstar Thuban and I can pursue my own metamorphosis from old human into a new starhuman.


    malletzky wrote:
    This is what you (repeatedly) reply:

    ------------quote---------

    Yes indeed, the Dragon genotype is the mastertemplate for the universe as a Mirror of Mirrors. This Dragon template is also called the human mastertemplate of Cosmic

    It is precisely the Prime Creators masterplan to dragonomize you Sollve.

    The 'take over' or 'invasion' of your planet is unavoidable, as this is the program of Prime Creator.
    If WE would have left the human archetype to evolve by itself, it would have destroyed itself and this planet a number of times over.
    You appear to not understand that all ET's are humanoid aspirants, awaiting their own graduations, which must await the humanoid graduation to proceed.


    As said repeatedly, your masterrace status is subject to ALL other races 'interfering with it' to further their own agendas. YOUR human template is however the ROYALTY of the entire cosmos.

    ------------end quote------------------

    My question(s), (actually it is a conclusion, but I would only ask if I’ve understood correct and if not, please correct me if necessary):

    We (‘the humans’) as fallen Adams “posses” that master template of the entire cosmos, which could be considered as special and therefore ROYALTY?


    Yes, your reply here is brilliant Malletzky. Having checkmated the Devil (within you as this false image without you), you should proceed from strength to strength for evermore from now on.

    'BEING' a physically expressed Adam has now allowed you to manifest your Shadow-Eve within yourself as part of the original mastertemplate of ADAMEVE=COSMIC MAN=ADAM KADMON (of Kabbalah)=PURUSHA=VITRUVIUS and so on.

    As we ARE the REAL Image from the Prime Creator, our special template will be used by ALL other ET’s/ races in ALL universes in order to evolve according to the masterplan you so wonderfully described in your post #1351?

    Of course, this is the agenda behind the agenda of ALL ETs, however obscured by the Devil Image without imaging itself PARASITICALLY within.
    Now you know where the one and only REAL Cosmic Vampyre resides; within all who cannot checkmate their inner demons.

    malletzky wrote:
    In this case NOW...the Dragon genotype is THE FIRST to hybridise with Adams mastertemplate and this will precisely define the way for all further hybridisations by many other ET’s?

    The DRAGON IS the ADAMEVE mastertemplate AS the trick creation of God to 'sexchange' his own Image as Satan.
    So the Dragon Agenda is to manifest ADAMEVE from ADAM+EVE; it is that simple. But without 'getting rid' of the obscuring or occultizing false selfimage of the DEVIL=LIVED (a proof of sorts) nothing goes and the mastertemplate cannot manifest.
    Only the Logos coupling of your Christ-Consciousness/Higher Self/Superconsciousness in the Cosmic Logos-Individual Logos uniquely individuated partnership can achieve this.

    malletzky wrote:
    In this case (as soon as this FIRST “operation” is successful and comes to an end), I must assume that a part of ME will be / is allways needed to ‘help’ other Prime Source Creations to evolve and therefore I WILL BE FOREVER?

    Of course. You will then have graduated as a mastertemplate able to phaseshift the entire physical universe with your presence as having become Christ-centered or Love-Centred or God-centred and so you will have unified the polarities within yourself.

    The polarities within the universe you live in AS a miniature universe of this same thing MUST be unified {This is the Lake of Fire and Brimstone btw, the Lake being Christ, the Brimstone your Yang and the Fire your Yin}, in this centralness.
    The WITHOUT you will become your ETERNAL MIRROR to explore your WITHIN.

    malletzky wrote:
    May I assume, if the previous said is correct, that ME, as a fallen Adam, already exist not only here, but everywhere on many other 3D plains, still unknown to us, and just ‘wait’ for the moment to ‘help’ in another hybridisation?

    I am so proud of you, you have no idea. The entire extraterrestrial universe is rejoicing and applauding you in your awakening and selfrealisation.
    This UNKNOWN is precisely your own NOT KNOWING IN DETAIL of what 'goes on' within your body - get it?!
    So you shall have eternity to explore the Universe as yourself and the Mystery about details will remain - yet you will KNOW WHO YOU ARE and have ever been.


    malletzky wrote:
    Is this the real meaning of the human mastertemplate?

    If yes, I must say, we should consider ‘ourself’ very, very PROUD [=speaking of ego once again ;-) to BE what we ARE !!!

    I could not improve one iota on your words Brother Dragon Malletzky!


    malletzky wrote:
    Thank you once again for your time and efforts dear friend.

    with much respect
    malletzky

    You dear beloved BrotherSister have made my day.
    Even if the PTB evict US tomorrow from their selfmade Hells - it now has all been worthwhile.

    malletzky wrote:
    p.s. 1. Please feel free to share this message everywhere if needed (and all other previous or further messages)!

    I certainly shall.

    malletzky wrote:
    p.s. 2. I sent you an e-mail few days ago with a question to your post #1351. Did you received it?

    Yes, I shall answer it shortly and add it to this message from US!
    __________________
    I am who I am, and we are all one as I am one...you're wellcome to join the (r) evolution !!!

    For once I have nothing to say, you have stunned me here!
    Except Thank You Beloved ABBA and magnificent Jesus for having allowed this to happen!

    Sirebard Beardris



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    What races or species are on planet right now other than of human origin

    All of them.

    Spregovori wrote:
    as Fauna?

    Yes and as Flora and as Mineralia and as Label and taxonomise it yourself as ADAM Spregovori, Cosmic Man.

    Genesis,2:

    18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
    19And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
    20And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

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    amate wrote:
    You said Lilith from the Burnley Relief .
    I was actually thinking of Inanna from the Burnley Relief


    Dear amate!

    Once you have become familiar with the Lilith archetype in its most primal sense of 1st order; then you will see, that Lilith is the Christmother Maria, Queen of Heaven, say as a direct ambassadora to Barbelo as the Afterthought, created by the Perfect One as the Forethought.
    {Reference is the 'Secret Book of John' of the Nag Hammadi Codex}.

    Then 2nd order labelings include Inanna as the mother of Marduk and Isis as the mother of Horus and many more

    amate wrote:
    Well, there are different views about this. (What do you think of the" Whore and Beast of Babylon") LOL

    Saying #108 from the Gospel of Thomas, our master templar's handbook manual to decode the 'mysteries':


    (105) Jesus says: "Whoever will come to know father and mother, he will be called son of a whore."

    This shows you the validity of the 1st order interpretation for Lilith and also the Adam and Eve Creation Story of post #1351.

    As you may know from the Hebrew mythology; Lilith's REFUSAL=LASUFER->LUCFIFER to lay beneath Adam in sexual intercourse, caused 'Her' to 'fly away' and become the 'Roaming Demoness' say a Succubi and cosmic archetype seductress of the Maleness.
    This was before EVE was 'created' from one of Adam's Ribs, so rendering Eve as archetype for the womanhood DEPENDENT on ADAM (as a sexchanged Man say) UNTIL she somehow would become 'liberated' as a true femaleness.

    The 'fakeness' of EVERY WOMAN of being a 'sexchanged maleness in mind' {it's the other way around for males; the mucked up creation renders all males feminine in their particlebodies and all females masculine in their mindwaves} then IS this Whore of Babylon.

    The Whore of Babylon is an old archetype for a mucked up feminity (because of the broken symmetry, see #1351); which becomes REDEFINED in the Book of Revelation and by the 'shattering of the Mirror of Illusions' encoded as the 'Sea' from which the 'Beast' ascends from. The false prophet ascending from the 'Earth' is simply the human, all humans, who look min the mirror of illusion and see the Beast as themselves - this seeing falsity instead of truth defines the 'False Prophet'.

    amate wrote:
    I like to refer to this information (scroll to the middle of the page.....)

    http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html

    Yes, this is a good account. Did you see there that Inanna is called the Queen of Heaven?
    I commented on the Sumerian mythology in an earlier message, about a month ago. How it links to Egypt and Greece.


    amate wrote:
    But the things you say about Lilith are nice enough to cope with

    You are a classy Lady of the NightDay Sunset-Sunrise amate.

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    jcocks wrote:
    holy carp this thread is so complex it's making my head spin All very interesting though.

    I find it interesting that you're going on so much about dragons.... but I think maybe the wrong terminology is being used?

    Welcome in the DragonCave dear Joel!

    You have come here at a shining time in the history of the humanity. Here onto the Mount of Olives labeled Avalon.
    The happening of the last daynight cycle or so have lifted a great burden from the hearts of all humans.
    And I love your signature connecting Sirius to Egypt and the power of the Uraeus in the Ankh of Hathor.

    I am allowed to relax a little from now on and become a little more colloquial.
    This is because I have fulfilled my 'Office of the Bard' and with the help of my Dragon Slayer friends Richard and Celine; I could force the cracking and opening up of the Mirror of the Illusion.
    This abomination had kept the human mind in bondage since the dawn of the human mastertemplate, destined since the birth of the universe to help the exiled creator without to prepare to meet his homecoming queen Gaia, the Beautiful New Mother of the Universe.

    As you may know this is the FatherEarth Geb and MotherSky Nut as a 3nd order externally polarised archetype emerging from its 2nd order internally polarised archetype labeled as FatherSky Shu and MotherEarth Tefnut in the Egyptian legends.
    The 1st order archetype was the non-polarised archetype of RahaR requiring bifurcation into a True-False dichotomy of Rah-Apep and as the Light separating from the Darkness.

    So perusing my malletzky post may show you why the Dragon archetype HAD TO BE USED to expose the EVIL=LIVE of Apep to be the LIVE HAR, HAR being the Mirror of Hathor of the Occuli Tauri.


    jcocks wrote:
    See, the dragon is a mythical being.... But the more I think of it, the more I think there's a definite link with Alpha Draconis (the dragon star)... The myth originates perhaps from the contact we had at some stage in the past with beings (most likely reptilian) from that place (the dracons).

    This myth became reality with the Red Dragonstar Thuban manifesting on January 18th, 2010 and AS the fulfilment of the archetype of the Nibiru and the Nemesis.
    Albeit this was simultaneous with the arrival of the Skyblue Dragonstar Kachina, the Star of Hope and fulfilling Hopi prophecy.

    And the Dragons are here, they have arrived and have begun to confront all humans as their invisible mirror images reflecting their fears about their unseen images back to them.

    The Dragons are here to be EATEN in the cosmic eucharist of the second coming; waiting to be eaten by the humans who have the stomach and the guts to do so as the Heavenly MANNA of the selfhood christenings.

    Aye the works of God sometimes proceed in mysterious ways and divers methods, do they not.

    (7) Jesus said : "Fortunate is the lion which the man eats so that the lion becomes a man ; and cursed is the man whom the lion eats so that the man becomes a lion."

    The Lion of Judah of Revelation.5.5 is the Skyblue BabyDragon of the second coming and its fake image is Yaldabaoth of the gnostic lores (Secret Book or Apocryphon of John of the Nag Hammadi Codex).
    Yaldabaoth is the Lionhead with the Serpent's Tail as a 1st order archetype for falseness and the true-false dichotomy required redefinition.
    Yaldabaoth is the Old Testament God and its aliases in mirror image to the I AM THAT I AM in distortion I AM THAT AM I of Exodus.3.14. in the Fire of the Burning Bush of Moses.

    jcocks wrote:
    We tend to think of these beings as evil - but this is not entirely the case. They are *-much much much -* older than us, and extremely noble and wise... I feel that they existed BEFORE the humanoid body-type existed.... So they are unimaginably old. We can learn a lot from them, but first we must accept them and allow them to teach us what they know. This takes real courage, as they feel as old as they are (which is scary in itself), and they look scary...so the natural reaction to them is fear, we have to get beyond that fear.

    Indeed this is the explicate Story of the Dragons. You dear Joel now have become privvy to the implicate Story of the Dragons.


    jcocks wrote:
    I don't know, maybe I'm wrong...but I think this talk of destroying the dragons and dragons (dracons) being evil is leading us so far down the garden path that it's almost dangerous. What we need to be doing is taking that energy within ourselves and integrating it to become whole (don't forget that we have a "reptilian" brain within our own).... When you work against anything you are working against the natural flow of energy. You are much better off to gently guide that energy in the right direction - much in the same way that it's easier to change the points to redirect a train from danger than it is to stop it head-on.

    You have spoken like Ophiuchus, the SerpentTamer and unifying 13th starsign of the mazzaroth here dear Azarus Ankh'aa.


    jcocks wrote:
    Also, Abraxisinas (I hope I got the name right ).... Yuo DO seem to have a lot of knowledge.... I was wondering if you might have heard of the "golden universe"? I have been told I come from there. I have a feeling it's a non-physical universe.... but was hoping you could shine some more light on the subject? I'm still trying to work out what my soul purpose is and why I'm here....

    Indeed you come from the Golden Universe. It is the Thuban Universe the Dragonspacetime of the Omniverse in the 10-11-12 dimension triad.
    When one thinks like a dragon, feels like a dragon and speaks like a dragon, then the probability is high that one is a dragon as an invisible image of a human seen in an invisible mirror.


    jcocks wrote:
    Oh, and we do all realise that the kundalini energy within us all is represented by a coiled serpent? So it seems sort of silly to be destroying serpents et al when we have the serpent energy within us all?

    All this Dragontalk again. Dont speak too loud or the Humans will wake up to themselves and begin to eat us.
    But well, that is the masterplan anyway.


    jcocks wrote:
    Anyway, these are just my thoughts... I'm only a student in the universe at this moment, I don't have all the answers and I don't want to attack anyone, just putting my input into the discussion for everyone to see. We've got to stop fighting and start learning from each other.... we're not going to get anywhere otherwise...

    I am
    eternally with you in the light

    Azarus Ankh'aa / Joel Cocks

    You assuredly are dear Dragon Brother.

    DragonLove and the Shalom of the Dragonheart.

    SS---HISSSING as the OM of the Creation!
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    Malletzky wrote:
    This post is dedicated to all of you beloved members of this forum..and I only ask you to read further and try to understand the message of this humble soul...please. It is a long post, but you know me...I sometimes tend to express my feelings this way. I speak from my heart, so don't condemn me please.

    I decided, for now, to put the muzzle that I put on my mouth few days ago away...as I feel obligated to do this. I will explain further why...

    It's hard to begin, but Abrax, allow me to begin here with your post #1422: where you wrote the following sentence:



    You know, the moment I decided I should go into an 'observer' modus, I didn't exactly knew why. Was it ok to leave this ‘fight’, as it seemed right then that it became really interesting . But, I just felt the guidance to do so, and I allways, allways trust my guidance. So I 'left' for a while...without knowing that I will experience the most profound and simultaniously, the greatest days of my earth life.

    I 'observed' and absorbed the energies here on this thread, but also on all other threads as well...I absorbed your energies, and had to face them. What a hard task it was...and it is...but I do not complain.

    I asked my 'guides' to explain to me why...why should I do this to me, why me.

    Why should I feel like I feel, why should I cry like I've barely cried before in my life? Why? So many tears these day...for what?

    As I awoke this morning, I had a strange feeling...something was brewing...I actually received an answer, but I couldn’t accept an answer like this. I...I do not held myself for being ‘humble or noble’ to even think something like that. There was the answer...and I had to swallow hard...was I really destined to absorbe all of your energies here and hold them in ballance for so long, until this issue here get ‘solved’? Was I destined to ease the burden....?

    Really and honestly, I dismissed these thoughts. So I went back to the material and I asked you a question, which resulted in that great answer #1422: .

    And I cried again. I cry now too, as I understand. For me it is as a revelation, altough I know the real revelation will follow.

    I cry, as I see that we are glorious beings, special, precious, loved beyond any measures by our prime creator. What a relief it is to KNOW this. And this is the most important part that I learned from the thuban material dear friend.

    I wish that you can understand and feel my feelings right now, you beloved avalonians.

    As...I AM ME...I AM ME...I AM ME...and you are all ME too…

    So, there in the middle of that post, I read your words about me being the one taking the burden on my shoulders....

    Abrax, dear friend, how did you knew the answer I got from my guides, which I still doesn’t want to accept? We know of only one, of our great master Jesus who did this once...and I’m not him. I know that one of my ‘gifts’ is to hold the energies on balance, as I’ve done this so many times before, but I can’t accept this.

    And now back to the obligation...of why I had to post here once again.

    In the last days, I exchanged a few PM’s with some of the memebrs here. And two of these dear souls, dear freinds, dear sisters had nothing much to say but THANK YOU...thank you for my previous posts on this thread, for the way I presented my thoughts and questions and how helpfull this has been to tem in order to understand the thuban material.

    Dear one, may I thank YOU, once again, here in public. Thank you that you trusted me, that you take me the way I am. Thank you from thew deepest corners of my heart. I love you!
    And...special thanks to you Lionhawk (you know why) and special thanks to you MyPlanet2 (you also know why).

    Abrax, you mentiond that the fight is over. Well for me, it really is. I found my inner piec e once again and I can get back to ‘normal’ once again...but I will never be the same again.

    I know now who I am...and no one, really NO ONE can take this knowledge away from me.

    My very special thanks once again to you Abrax...you changed my life, for good.

    With much love and much respect, truthfully and sincerelly yours
    malletzky

    Well my dear brothersister, the old EVIL=LIVE Bard of the Dragons and the Scribe of the Unicorns got a bit emotional too in the last cycle of the Dawn following the Long Night after the Evening.

    Dont deny your christening dear twin. Visit the master's handbook and meet Didymos Thomas, the Gemini - the Twin of the Cosmic Mirrorhood.

    I'll share the great hidden secret there and a secret which is is not required to be hidden any longer. Then you will understand your christening and twinship to the master himherself.

    (13) Jesus said to His disciples : "Compare Me and tell Me whom I am like"
    Simon Peter said to Him : "You are like a righteous angel."
    Matthew said to Him : "You are like a wise philosopher."
    Thomas said to Him : "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying what You are like."
    Jesus said : "Your Master, because You have drunk, I am not ; You have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring of living water which I have measured out."

    And He took him aside and spoke three words to him. When Thomas came back to his companions, they asked him : "What did Jesus say to You ?" Thomas answered them : "If I tell You one of the words He said to me, You will take up stones and throw them at me and fire will come out of the stones and burn You."

    The answer dear malletzky now describes your voluntary exile. You became Thomas Dydimos, Twinbrother of the Living Jesus.

    {This event occurred in the timeperiod between May 20th, 32 AD and August 4th, 33 AD and engaged the RESURRECTED EVERLIVING LOGOS of the Universe.}

    "He simply said; pointing at himself, then Thomas, then John of Zebedee and then Mary Magdalene, both of whom were standing near Simon Peter a little distance away at their fireplace: 'I am you, you are him and he is her!'"

    And for the Marias as the New Eves of the Creation:

    (114) Simon Peter said to them : "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
    Jesus said : "Look, I will guide her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit like You males. For every female who will make herself male will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."


    THE DAWN OF A NEW STARHUMANITY HAS BEGUN!

    So may the next Dydimos Thomas raise hisher hand to learn the 'three secrets'?

    Sirebard Beardris

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    Once again...thank-you abraxasinas for what you are doing. Proceed in your own way...and in your own time...to fully reveal to us who you really are...and what you have really done...throughout Universal History. I think I have a pretty good idea...but I'm not talking! I'd only be guessing anyway. I'm going through this entire thread (slowly)...and I'm amazed. You are a very special individual. Much love and gratitude! Namaste abraxasinas.

    So are you orthodoxy, so are you.
    Once you know how special you are, you will understand.
    The Council thanks you soo much of presenting the CURIOUS and INQUISITIVE nature of the Prime Creator himself.

    We love you very much dear friend of the council.

    May I suggst to you to read the messages from the newest to the oldest?

    Your quest to understand would be greatly accelerated.
    You see out of the chaos emerges the order!

    So the later posts will exhibit more order and simplicity, than the earlier ones.

    Have you eaten your dragon yet?

    Once you have done so, you shall enter the council - #1451.

    Love the Sirebard of the Hissing Om.
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    Post  Guest Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:56 am

    TRANCOSO wrote:
    Dear Abraxasinas, are you gonna hang around at this forum untill the end of days?


    The End of Days began with the Abomination of Desolations sweet Trancoso and while the 40 days in the Wilderness have passed from January 18th, 2010 - our master templar Jesus of Nazareth has decreed that heshe will kindle the fires of the purifications into Avalon as the place of the thief - stealing the goods of your nonexistent Devils.

    1. 2 Peter 3:10
    But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    2 Peter 3:9-11 (in Context) 2 Peter 3 (Whole Chapter)
    2. Revelation 3:3
    Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
    Revelation 3:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 3 (Whole Chapter)
    3. Revelation 16:15
    Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

    Matthew 24


    1And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
    2And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
    3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
    4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
    7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
    8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
    9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
    10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
    11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
    13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
    14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
    15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

    Daniel.12:
    11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
    23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    25Behold, I have told you before.
    26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
    27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
    29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
    30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
    31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
    32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
    33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
    34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
    37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
    39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
    43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
    44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
    45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
    46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
    47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
    48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
    49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
    50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Have you eaten your dragon breakfast yet Trancoso?
    You will feel better after having done so. #1451

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    Post  Guest Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:57 am

    UncleJohn wrote:
    Hi Abrax, I have not ask a question in awhile so here it goes.

    It seems to me that the best answer comes from the best question.

    So my question to Abrax, is what is the best question we could ask you?

    Thanks Uncle John


    The best question beloved Uncle Johnathan of the Living Stones is the question you can ask your image in your mirror.

    Go there and look into your own eyes and ask:

    Who is the most glorious being in the universe?

    Then your Image, if deobscured by falsehoods, will say: You are - I am!

    Sirebard

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