Thuban 301

B.B.Baghor wrote:Ortho's remark inspires me to reply, in an investigative way, feeling my way through it. What is it that I and ortho find difficulty with, when going into the Thuban material? When I honestly focus on what it is that I myself have a
problem with and what kind of feelings rise up, when pondering the Thuban material, is that much of that is presented
here in a style of colorful and dramatic shine and glamor. It's so much in volume and vibrations, that I can't "get it"
proplerly. All the time a question pops up, while going through it. And that question is "What's the point of this?"

It may be my 4 past lives :bleh:  in this one lifetime, having set me on distance of this style and vibrations. No arrogance
is meant here, I'm doing the best I can, although something like that easily slips through. Says Mother Superior ;)

I've gone through a similar kind of vibes in the '70's, with pleasurable suspense in giggles and chicken skin, in the company
of booz and drugs, mainly present inside the veins of those around me, artists, dealers and musicians, birds of paradise,
travelers and seekers, in big halls with black paint on the walls, walking on blue suede shoes in leather pants, purple Indian
skirts with mirrors in it, or sweet fluffy nothings of a tiny dress, exploring the underground world of that time.

How we "celebrated" that. Most of it was artificially made up, like fantasy games played in grouprooms, in sort of virtual
astral groupsex sessions. Those dark hours of mirages, in those years, died/dyed out with the dawn of the next day,
never to be remembered. This wasn't a loss of time, I just try to paint the scene of how life made me into who I am now.

To me, it's fun to enjoy that kind of vibes in works  of art, in daydreaming, astral traveling and moments of indulgence,
in parties, on the dance floor with a magical display of lights and images, flashing stroboscopes, sort of intentionally overwhelming,
for a moment. Allowing those, present on the floor, a loss of awareness or something of that nature. Nothing wrong with that.

For sure, it's a matter of personal taste and a similar preference for which world you choose, to be and live in, or start to work
from. To me, experienced in daydreaming and much use of imagination, it's very welcome to see expressions of someone's
truth in the world, be it from the past, present or future, presented in a form that is clear and simple. Which doe'sn't mean
that the content is simple, for I consider the Thuban material as possibly multi layered and thus.... a multitude of  times ready
for exploring,  on new levels. To me and maybe others too, this Thuban material may not be a road to follow, I have no problem
with that.

To me, the Thuban material, with all my respect for it being in existence and lived by or tried out, to see if it works for you,
is a representative of a time that is and has been so far in our past, resonating with the life circumstances of that same past,
when human consciousness was ruled and guided by beings in command, capable of holding the consciousness of large groups
of people (or other beings) under their reign. The Sumerian culture used a title for their ruler, which means "shepherd" as well
as "king".

In my view, in those days of long long ago, that ruling was not yet, or at least not that much, infiltrated by dark agendas and their
masters, when the planetary grid and human conditions in life were still sort of...... intact. If ever we can truly determine that,
while living within the consciousness grid of this enchanted world called planet Earth, pretty much enchanted already, when we
are born. With the help of a veil and our past life-stories imprinted in our system, more or less conscious of them.

A flawed integrity in the present ruling of society and its people is common nowadays, or at least, our life-circumstances have
become immensely complex, in general. And much controlled. In their form and expression they have gone way over our heads,
bypassing often the awareness of our hearts. In this way, to me personally, does this Thuban material show up for me, and this
may be the reason why the history of how the Thuban material is treated. is as it is, having gone over many heads, like it seems
to be the case in Project Avalon Forum years.

I may be mistaken, or in need of more information to make up my mind on this, in clarity. I haven't followed this at that time, so I
don't know the real reason, why it was banned from there. And how that's been done. As I said before, I don't mean to see it banned
from here, to be clear. I'm an eternal explorer  ;) To me and maybe others, the presentation of this material may be the obstacle in
making it understood. Unless this style of presentation is inherent to the nature of it, in what is expressed in that famous statement
"for eyes able to see and for ears able to hear". Maybe I'm trying too much to make it be understood by others, without a need for it
present in them and thus..... an unsuccesful attempt of mine?

Know that I love dragons, not sure if I love Draconean creatures. I think that, not being used to things, specially beings and creatures
that are far removed from our paradigms, creates fear, without any legitimate reason for it, when confronted with them. And before we
know it, when identifying with it, becoming it as it were, we may find that our fear materializes in front of our eyes, creating a tough
situation, of our own making. I hope we humans will be supported in this process of becoming aquainted to such otherness, when
that happens. For myself, I've made sure, as far as I've come to know them, that I acknowledge my inner dragons.

I'm prepared to be half-understanding or too complicated in my view on and approach of this. Or too..... Sirius? I'm well aware of my
style in writing and use of words, probably more effective when less in numbers. Does this make sense to you?

TripleBee wrote:Anyway, the story unfolds later in our lives, when my cat, called Tobias, came home one day with the tip of
his tail in sticky tar. Before I had had the time to find a way to remove it, he had bitten off the fur of that part!
I went to the animal doctor with him, who advised me to let him be operated on, in order to take off the few
bones at the end of his tail, that were bare now.

I hesitated but decided that this was for the best. The doctor warned me that when this wasn't treated well,
chances were that my cat would have an infected tail and had to loose it entirely. I simply couldn't see that
happening to my cat, this fierce guardian who always held this part of his body high, parading outside in my garden.

Had I known the after math of that operation in advance, I wouldn't have had him operated on, for when I had
brought him home with me, bandages and all and a plastic cap around his neck, so that he couldn't remove the
bandages, he came out of the cage and immediately began to jump against the walls, rejecting that cap.
Mad with fury, with such strength!

I removed the cap and within seconds he had taken off the bandages and had laid bare the skin of his tail.
Uggghhhh! Now, he was furious from being in huge pain! I had to rush back to the animal doctor and
let him operated on again.... what money I have spent on that catfriend! The doctor was helpful and
offered me a plane cage of metal, to put Tobias in, with his plastic cap in place and subdued on a low dose
of tranquilisers and a painkiller. This doctor was truly impressed by the fierceness, my cat showed him.
And happy with the money I paid him

This solution with the cage worked well, I had to take care of Tobias for weeks, until the wound on his tail
was healed. Now, the difficult part of this tailstory, was a connection with that etheric grid around the planet.
When I had experienced for the second time, that Tobias hurt his tail, now by a neighbor cat attacking it,
panting in the bathroom with blood all over the place, a whole night long, I was at the end of my tether.
Again, the cage had to be placed in my living room and Tobias had to be in it, with his attributes in place.
I stroke him often, to calm him and when I stroke his eyes, he almost went in a trance. Very endearing.

I decided to call a friend who was experienced in reading energy of animals and issues troubling them.
Or their owners She asked me to send a picture of the beast and chose a phone consultation, to see
what could be done with this recurring tail hurting. As soon as she made contact with Tobias, she asked
him to show her the core picture of this issue. She described to me, that by fleeing and freeing his tail,
in huge shock, he had left behind the etheric bodypart of his tail in the mouth of the dog.

From that moment, he was in denial of his tail, in survival mode and couldn't "relate" to it anymore.
For the fact that he couldn't "own" his tail, he lost "ownership" over it and energetically caused an opportunity,
for an intruding energy, in this case the attack of his neighborcat. Where a space is empty, nature/life chooses
to fill that space, like it or not. All the time, Tobias was sitting in his cage, very altert, with his ears in listening
mode, when I was on the phone with my friend.

She told me that she was going to show Tobias the catgrid - energy, with the cat-characteristics, in this case, the tail.
As soon as Tobias had a good look at this, he began to lick his tail in the astral version of his body, she reported to me.
This was a good sign, for now he was aware of his tail, again. My friend reminded me of his position, his role towards me.
She explained that by his being the man in the house, guarding me, he had suffered a deep shame, for having lost
the fight with the neighbor cat. He felt that I lost my respect for him and that needed to be restored also.
I was very moved by that, for he and I were such good friends!

After a while, the session was over, my friend advised me to leave Tobias in the cage for a while, for the healing
could cause some emotional upheaval, remains of the trauma, surfacing as a result of it. That night, I chose to
leave Tobias alone for a while and went to the library. What astonishment, when I came home, finding Tobias
in his cage, with the plastic cap removed, lying next to him! He had bitten through all the knots of the cord around
his neck. He could have done that earlier, but this was meant to be this way. He looked at me with such pride
and triumph, that I felt his macho nature had had a great boost." Good for you" I said. We were so happy!

What a miracle to find him in that state, while opening the door of the cage, letting him free and seeing him
in complete calm with himself and his friend who loved him so very much. That night he was on my lap for
the first time after long weeks of living in concern, with great patience.




Tobias with his proudly owned short tail 12 years old


Tobias, 3 years old with his tail complete

'Toby Tobias Schnucklputz"

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Re: Thuban 301

Thank you, shiloh, I feel I'm getting closer to the answers, that I need to work for me, but not by this post
of yours. As much as I like to paint a rainbow, standing on the Eiffeltower, showing the world that it
really exists and that I've made it so, ha ha....I find a similar way in your style of reply to my investigation.

I'm finding no evidence in your post, of being on a path of investigation, I mean investigation of an
attempt to come to an understanding with another person, me in this case, and with Mother Superior,
in our discussion, working our way, as I prefer it,, to clarification and understanding, of the material discussed.

I'm not chasing my tail, as I watch myself, I'm getting rid of the devil at my tail   by becoming
more of who I am, or being more of what I become. I'm making progress and I don't feel frustrated.
Like I would feel with my tail out of reach. Do you feel you're chasing your tail, ortho?

If you're the "teacher" and "a Thuban in the know" I feel it's your "job" when presenting the Thuban material here,
to cut it smaller in digestive bits and bites, to make it be understood. Or at least make efforts to make it understood,
in whatever creative ways, if that's what you intend. For what is the purpose of posting this material, if not for
"spreading the word in making it understood?" Of is it so evident to you, that this is true, that you can't phatom
the possibility of others not capable of understanding this material?

Your remark, in your post above, on the conditions in which the Thuban material can be understood, in such and
such a way, is a loop of failing logic in the way of Thuban thinking, to me. It may be the trick hidden in itself, to be
found and overcome. Who knows For how can you make others understand what's true for you, from your
own  point of view, on this Thuban material, or world, when something as immaterial and often obscure, as our
subconsciousness is needed in that effort?

In those circumstances, no sense of having learned something can be found for the student and no examination can
be done, in honesty, due to the fact that invisible forces (our subconsciousness, not to be measured) are present in
the work, As I see it, this is and will be working against the Thuban work itself, in the teachings as well as in the process
of ohters, trying to get it, or embody it, or own it. I can't continue the discussion, in the way it's going now. But I find
clarity in certain aspects of it and for that I'm happy, with my rainbow  

Spring Equinox Supermoon solar eclipse: Rare celestial phenomenon will make March 20 even more special

17:54, 6 March 2015
By Chris Richards

The evening before the solar eclipse, the Earth and Moon will be as close together as they possibly can be, giving rise to a so-called Supermoon​

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The biggest solar eclipse in Britain since 1999 will be even more special than first thought - because the night before there will be a Supermoon.
On the morning of March 20, the moon will cover the sun, blocking out up to 98 per cent of its light.

But as if this were not impressive enough, the evening before the phenomenon the Earth and Moon will be as close together as they possibly can be, giving rise to a so-called Supermoon.

This makes the 2015 Spring Equinox eclipse a supermoon eclipse, which means a supermoon, equinox and eclipse will all fall on the same day.
The partial eclipse will been seen across Northern Africa, Europe and Northern Asia.

It happens when the moon's orbit takes it in front of the sun, casting a shadow over the Earth.
Between 30% and 98% of the sun's light will be blocked out, depending on location.

The further north you move, the greater the percentage of light that will be blocked.

England will be treated to a partial eclipse of more than 80% of the sun obscured - this rises to more than 90% in Scotland.

The west coast of the Isle of Lewis will see the deepest partial eclipse in the UK, with 98% of the sun obscured at around 9.36am.

George Ward, the treasurer of Thanet Astronomy Group, told Mirror Online he was looking forward to the "double event" of the Supermoon and the eclipse.
"The Supermoon is well worth looking at," he said.

"It (the Supermoon) is a rarish event and with binoculars you can see impressive details of the moon's surface that you can't during a full moon because it's too bright.
"As for solar eclipses they don't happen that often here - the last one was in 1999."

The 74-year-old, who lives in Margate, added: "The Supermoon and the eclipse together makes it a little bit extra special.
"I will be outside with my camera."


What is a solar eclipse?

A solar eclipse is when the moon covers the sun, blocking out its light.
It can only happen when the moon moves directly between the sun and Earth and its shadows fall upon Earth’s surface.
But this does not necessarily mean that the the alignment produces a total solar eclipse - many that happen are only partial and various factors influence its impact.

How often do they happen?

Solar eclipses happen on average 2.4 times a year.
Fred Espenak, an American astrophysicist and world-leading scientist on eclipses, explains that the rare phenomenon can be accurately predicted.
He said: "Certainly within 100 to 200 years we can predict when an eclipse will occur to within a second, but the pattern of occurrence is a complicated one.
"They don't repeat on a time schedule like the seasons of the year”.

If you miss this eclipse you'll have to wait another 11 years until 12 August 2026.
The eclipse in 1999 was the first seen in the UK since 1927.

So what makes this one so special?

In 2003, 2006, 2008 and 2011 there were solar eclipses visible from the UK, but they were only partial.
This upcoming eclipse is likely to plunge the UK into darkness with Scotland seeing 94% of its sun rays being blocked out.
It will be the biggest since the last significant eclipse, in 1999.

When is it?

It will be visible on the morning of March 20, with the eclipse visible from across Europe for approximately 90 minutes.
In London it will begin at 8.45am, hitting its peak at 9.31am.

Where will it take place?

Unlike the 1999 eclipse which was visible along a line including the southern UK, northern France, Belgium, Luxembourg, southern Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary, the March eclipse will appear across far northern regions of Europe and the Arctic.

The path of total eclipse travels from just below the Greenland peninsula, heading north into the Arctic Circle.

The course takes it across the Norwegian island of Svalbard and also the Faroe Islands, for a full two minutes and nine seconds of total solar eclipse.
These are the only two places which are easy to reach where the full total eclipse can be seen.

Although it will be trickier for those on mainland Britain to see the eclipse this doesn't meant that the sun won't be partially obscured.

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Article Link

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FYI as background information only.
The Thuban Council  does not endorse any notions of supernatural reality,
nor SidRoth.org and companies in general dispensations.

http://www.freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2329&start=30​

The End of God so becomes a Cyclicity embedded into the formalisms for the asymptotic cosmology, defining the cosmogony ontologically.
Technically (and in Black Hole physics described elsewhere) then; the overall cosmic consciousness evolution is expected to have progressed enough every 4 trillion years or so, to trigger a 'renewed' 'consciousness explosion' of the 'eternal God' to RECHARGE the seedling protoverse in a renewal of the nuclear (read dineutron/ylemic) fuel for steller regeneration.
Every 4000 billion years or so, a new Quantum Big Bang eventuates, seeded however upon the primordial seed of the initialising inflaton-instanton from the subplenum.
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Luke 20:35-37 - King James Version (KJV)

²⁰ And they watched him, and sent forth spies, which should feign themselves just men, that they might take hold of his words, that so they might deliver him unto the power and authority of the governor.
²¹ And they asked him, saying, Master, we know that thou sayest and teachest rightly, neither acceptest thou the person of any, but teachest the way of God truly:
²² Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no?
²³ But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me?
²⁴ Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's.
²⁵ And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.
²⁶ And they could not take hold of his words before the people: and they marvelled at his answer, and held their peace.
²⁷ Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,
²⁸ Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
²⁹ There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children.
³⁰ And the second took her to wife, and he died childless.
³¹ And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died.
³² Last of all the woman died also.
³³ Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
³⁴ And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
³⁵ But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
³⁶ Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
³⁷ Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
³⁸ For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
³⁹ Then certain of the scribes answering said, Master, thou hast well said.
⁴⁰ And after that they durst not ask him any question at all.
⁴¹ And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
⁴² And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
⁴³ Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
⁴⁴ David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
⁴⁵ Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,
⁴⁶ Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
⁴⁷ Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

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Re: A Scientific Definition For The 'Universal Intelligence' Aka Einstein's 'God'

mudra Yesterday at 1:15 pm
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Love from me
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Noah's Raven of the New Lands

The Beeping Mushroom Race​

Sanicle wrote:


I've read what you've shared here Shiloh, and other posts in other threads also. I admit much of it is hard-going for me as I've not studied Physics nor Higher Math. It all sounds impressive and I guess I have to accept those parts as I'm sure by now some fine minds out there would have discredited all of it ages ago if it didn't 'add up'. This last entry though contains data that I can understand more readily and some of it just doesn't 'sit well' with me. So I've quoted those parts below that summarize those areas, bolding the particulars, and am hoping you will answer the questions I wish to ask re these points under each section.

Shiloh wrote:

"The ET is biased in magnetopolarity and the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms are biased in electropolarity.

In particular, the ET SELFINDUCES electric capacity, but cannot mutually CROSSINDUCE the cosmic capacitance, which can also be labelled as the function of the deintellectualised 'Instinct' of the group consciousness in a form of the NOUS of the 'Mother- or Creation wisdom or sophia' of the BODY as the morphogenetic vehicle for spacetime selfexpression in PARTICULARISATION.

Corollarily, the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms SELFINDUCE magnetic inductance, but cannot CROSSINDUCE the cosmic inductance, which can also be called the deinstinctualised (or deemotionalised) 'Intellect' of the group consciousness in a form of NOUS of the 'Father- or Creator Understanding or OmniScience' of the MIND as the nonmorphogenetic vehicle for spacetime selfexpression in WAVEFORMATION."
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Isaiah.14.24; 55.11: “The Lord of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:” “So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”
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Or will you set some preconditions into their genomic programming; such as to disallow the activation of the L-Factor until a certain threshold of awareness via the (df/dt) timedifferential of frequency has been reached to satisfy one of your boundary conditions? Mushrooms better stay members of the fungi kingdom, even if they can beep – or can you envisage a hybrid race of funguous plants, perhaps even beginning to grow legs from roots in times to come?”


Robert Sceptico:
“Now how do you find out, as to where to place the ‘Beeping Mushroom Race’ - its locale?
Of course you need a detailed map of the ‘outer space’; it is required to be explored and chartered by enterprising pioneers of space; maybe probes and satellites can help in that task.
Your imagination is free to travel anyplace, creating on its journey. So what about an even more daring thought?

Could you not send your entire genetic library from within to the without of some location, carrying precise instructions as to how to reproduce your very own self from within yourself as the without of yourself, using your selfdefining pentagonal algorithm of your cosmogenetic DNA in the process?
Then that endeavour, if successful, would allow you in time and space, to ponder not just your creations, but your very own evolving selfhood in its linearised journey through eternity. You would see your firstborn creation in the protouniverse selfcolonising in a selfdiscovery of itself. You would see the protouniverse give you grandchildren in the birth of the transformation of your firstborn in its phaseshifting into the multiverses of the brothersisterhood of your firstborn children. You would see your own family name written all over generations after generations of the children of the manyborns and you would be the greatgrandgreat...FatherMother of them all, with your Beloved MotherFather eternally next by your side.”


Logan Antico:
“And your excruciating suffering of the loneliness of the linearity would finally come to an end. There you are; a ‘Man’ who has just created the first ‘football’ as your ‘Beloved universe’ - but there is noone to ‘play with’. There is noone at all, to whom you could kick that ‘football’ to, noone who would kick it back to you. And ‘My God’ how the universe as the ‘football’ would love to fly through the omnispacial air.

...end of excerpt.


In generalised terminology then; the ET is seeking to hybridise its magnetopolarisation of the waveform of the mind-intellect with the electropolarisation of the particularised bodyforms of the mind-emotional or mind-instinctual.

As this instinctual mind is coupled to a space-intrinsic consciousness of all spacetime defined metric coordinates; the Gaian nonhuman lifeforms become the complementary 'missing links' in the merkabahs of all extraterrestrial sentiences.

This is rendered imperative in the definition of this spacial consciousness as a inertia inependent quantum angular acceleration acting upon the quantisation of spacetime parameters in the form of wormhole equivalents.

In other words, ALL Gaian nonhuman lifeforms and including mineral, fungi, bacteria, viruses, flora and fauna represent the ET particularised and individualised bodyforms or morphogenetic merkabahs.

The nonhuman lifeforms so are destined to couple their electropolar capacitances, defined in groupminded waveforms or 'hive souls' to the magnetopolar inductances of the ET waveminds of the extraterrestrial intelligences.

The presence of the humanoid, carrying a unique individuation, both ET-intelligent and Gaian-instinctual; so serves as the Genetic Bridge between the electropolar cosmic ID and the magnetopolar cosmic ID; both selfinductive in activated genomatic expressions, but suppressed in the mutual inductions because of the cocooning of the gaian environments.

The ET so became instrumental in inducing itself in the Homo Sapiens Sapiens, once a sufficient evolutionary plateau for the processing of the cosmic consciousness became possible in the overall timeline of the cosmogenesis.

The so called humanoid so represents an already hybridised cosmic merkabah, having evolved physically and emotionally in the Gaian Instinct of the nonhuman genomatic templates in the electrocapacitative C-factors, as well as having attained magnetoinductive L-factors via the waveforms of the ETs.

Human associations with the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms so represents the 'humanisation' of the ET in a desired modality of interspecies communication and renders the 'pet' and the 'familiar' as a true partnership between the waveformed ET and the individuated 'Familiar Friend'.

In more general terms, the mutual and self-induction of the genomatic elements of the ElectroMagnetic Monopolar Radiation or EMMR defines the so called 'Spirit of the Source Energy' interacting and communicating with itself in the holofractal components of the Holographic Omniverse.

The ET has accumulated great wisdom and technology in the extraterrestrial evolution away from the Gaian Impedence Bubble; albeit remaining 'consciousness coupled' to the Cocoon of the 'Cosmic Creation Mother' via the 'missing' C-factors of the ET genomatic templates.

This ET technology is consciousness based and defined in the wormhole physics of the cosmogenesis.


So the non-humans on this planet are 'destined' to couple with the ETs as they are the "individualised bodyforms or morphogenetic merkabahs" of the ETs. How is this 'coupling' supposed to occur, especially when it's claimed the ARE the bodyforms? Will they be 'forced' to accept the mind of the ETs into their beings, like parasites attach themselves to a host?

Sanicle asked:


What happens to their own already developed natures? And all who have had pets know that each animal in particular has its own developed personality already. What happens to that?


Here you overgeneralise what i mean by hybridisation sweetheart. The excerpt above might have clarified this perception of yours. Again, I invoke the 'movies' the creative endeavours of the human mind in the 'monster movies' and the sci-fi genres. Where do those 'forms and shapes' derive from, if not from the lifeforms all around you. Have you ever seen the grotesque shapes of deep sea lifeforms of the thermophilic worms and the anglefish , the kraken etc etc.? The oh so evil reptilians illustrations, say on pictures of Allosaurus of the Cretaceous era and Tyrannosaurus Rex of the Jurassic, all developments of the archosaurs genetic ancestor of the pre-Mesozoic?

I shall address Carol's ideas and suppostions in her reply later on; but this multidimensional reality is far more interwoven than a simple divisionary line between the seen and the unseen; the good and the evil - the 5-sensory stimulus and the multi-sense stimuli for the human mind with a biochemical brain, which functions basically just like an antenna does as part of the hardeware apparatus to data process the encountered environments.

This hybridisation occurs fundamentally on the genetic level. It can be described as an 'Electromagnetic walk-In' in a blending of soul-energies. These soul energies belonging together and being parts of each other in say soul families however.
So the 'invasions' are actually self-invasions - scarey is it not?

As Gaia as a soul, existed in physicality at this nexus coordinate; the extraterrestrial universe became conscious and aware of their own Mother and could begin to focus their attention and homecoming plans on their 'Womb of the Physicality' of their origins.

So the ET visitations begun about 2.2 billion years ago and when the terestrial atmosphere became oxygen enriched to allow hitherto aquatic primitive lifeforms to extend thier habitats into airborne and terrestrial environments.

On a soul level, the encompassing Gaian planetary mother soul then greatly enhanced its own experiences and partitioned interactions in environmental coevolutions of increasingly complex biological and biochemical lifeforms.

This coevolution was 'watched' by the extraterrestrial lifeforms not evolved from the Gaian soul complex and for the purpose to eventually synergize their own ET cosmo evolotions with that of their Cosmic Home of the Cosmogenesis of the Universe.

This 'watching' and 'waiting' by the ETs would end, once the 'Earthlings' would have evolved physically and mentally to a stage of self remembrance regarding their own familiar relationship and partnership with the original CreatorCreation Monad of the FatherMother defined before the Universe was born into physical materiality.

All 'Human Recallers' would be required to claim their cosmic inheritances as Sons and Daughters of their Father Creator and their Mother Gaia.

In doing so, their old humanity would graduate to a Starhuman Remembrance and all such acolytes would become enabled to process their own Shadows in the Sons transmutating into SonDaughters and all daughters metamorphosing into DaughterSons - so RECREATING the original FatherMother of the Monadic Duality in a Mirrored FatherMother Motherfather Dyadic Monad or Harmonized Unity, Oneness or Wholesomeness.


Sanicle asked:


So all of our Higher Selves etc are in fact ETs at higher levels we are connected to mentally through genetic manipulation in the past and/or haven't got our own connection to the Father God? And we are 'required' to claim our inheritance. What happens to any who don't? We then only become acolytes.....a follower or attendant according to the dictionary. Which would have to mean following and attending the ETs I would guess. That sucks. Then we have to process our own Shadows. What does that mean?

YES YES YES you are your own ancestor and you are your own offspring sanicle. You are a cosmic time traveller NOW. The so called dragon energy is the oldest root memeory of creation itself; why so many reject this energy. It is too powerful and remembering your origins would 'boggle' your, lets call it domesticated minds. Your being here in incarnation however renders you the form, the body gestalt for this remembrance. You are mentally and mindwise the offspring of the Elders of creation. This is the heirloom of collective humanity as a race from the star - cosmic royalty as Alex Collier calls it - he is right in this (he is off on other things). But in your bodyform, you are the ancestor of ancestors, the 'missing link' FOR ALL possible lifeforms in the universe. It was your ET mind which genetically manipulated or better said electromagnetically INDUCED the codes which brought the flora and fauna of Gaia ALIVE. The spark of this is from the creator, but the mechanics were done and implemented by the human ET in disembodied form as shards of this creator, which did not physicalise below the 4th dimension.

No matter what the skeptics say, about these and those ET lifeforms; they are basically astral densities and cannot maintain structure in a 3D gaian environment (this is the cocoon; incidents like Roswell and Rendlesham are very rare and require particular energy conditions to densify astral 4d energy formations into 3D physicality and most ET stuff on the web is NABS. Don't buy the NABS (NewAge BullShit), if you wish to 'soothe your inner knowing and wisdom (sophia)'. You know in your superconsciousness (Christ Consciousness say); that what you read here is true on a very deep level. This superconsciousness is just 2% in the normal human make up of the overall consciousness, the subconscious being so 12% in a 1-7-49 ratio distribution.

This silly notion of 'following' and 'gurus' and 'evil manipulators'. The humans are the 'evil manipulators' and they themselves have become 'mind-manipulated' by their own creations, might they call them guardian angles or demons or devils or 'ascended masters'. Yes sanicle there are no gods or devils, they are all humanities astral children and offspring. The only 'God' is ABBA, the All That Is or such a label and descriptive of the undivided eternity emerging in selfdefinition of the 'Word/Logos' from the contrastate of the 'Void'. This is detailed elsewhere, say in the 'Secret of Humanity' essay i shall put on this forum for you.
You are Barbelo, the Goddess of Creation you are the Universe in holofractal definition; but cant remember your own origins, still running away from your creator in allegory to the expanding universe. You are a supersexual Shehe the female aspect of eternity emerging from the void itself.
But I am getting a little 'carried away' here by your sexappeal as an ambassadora of Gaia and Barbelo Herself big SHE. Oh well, I better end with this!

shiloh, one of your many Beloveds - One day you will understand this more clearly

Sanicle said:

So with respect, these are the questions I have in relation to these teachings. Would you care to answer my concerns Shiloh please? Oh and thanks for providing all this info. It is a very interesting perception to explore.

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Carol wrote:


Now let's discuss what is really going on here.

"So the non-humans on this planet are 'destined' to couple with the ETs as they are the "individualized body forms or morphogenetic merkabahs" of the ETs. How is this 'coupling' supposed to occur, especially when it's claimed the ARE the bodyforms? Will they be 'forced' to accept the mind of the ETs into their beings, like parasites attach themselves to a host?"

This does happen and I've witnessed it with some humans who are possessed by negative alien ETs. Generally the goal of these negative entities is to weaken the will of the host so they can enter and take over feeding off of negative energy. How is this done? Those people who use drugs and alcohol are most vulnerable. Those people who are engaged in spiritual practice (practice prayer and/or meditation) are much stronger and able to resist these types of negative ET influences.

Whenever someone mentions the word dragon with respect to what is written here by Shiloh is an automatic red flag for me because the dragons feast off of human energy and look upon humans as cattle. They also operate from "hive" mind and are genetically insectoid based. They have a hierarchy structure which has been superimposed upon the human race. This meaning that these entities have had a significant negative influence on humankind (via time travel into humanity's past) for a very long time because humankind without this type of negative influence is a peaceful race. The warrior element was genetically added to the human mix by the dragon element.

The whole hybridization factor is very complicated. I was in contact with one woman (contactee/abductee) who had at least 6 dragon/human hybrid children. She also wrote a book about her experience (it's in my library) and I spent a great deal of time communicating with her. Her hybrid children were in revolt against the old pure-bred hierarchal group (think of a human teenager and what life is like with that - bbl

BTW, human DNA can create those magnetized wormholes, dragons cannot. They do not have access to the higher spiritual dimensions and are trapped by their frequency which is why they like to feed off of human energy and also, I suspect, why they are interested in hybridization in an unconscious attempt to spiritually elevate their own species.

There are two major hybridization programs that have been going on for years (grays and reptoid). This is also a huge topic but ties in as we are looking at perhaps the reason why they are here to begin with as their origin was really in another Universe and they escaped when there was the rip in time and space that was created when the Philadelphia Experiment first occurred.

Jenetta, I want to apologize as I missed this thread and started another one on the same topic. Opps

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At last I know. 5,235,987,756,123,457 angels will fit into the 3d space of the tip of a needle. I was not prepared for such an analytical answer! It's hard to stop laughing! I do like all angels wherever I can find them.



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Extraterrestrial Physics of the Citizen's Disclosure Project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxw2uK7WGtA

[2:39:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is also interesting about contact and the ETs- Richard Dolan and the book quotes of this Hellyer bloke
[2:39:51 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/us/feat-ceres-pyramid/index.html did you see this?
[2:39:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It refers to the disclosure of Thuban-Logos
[2:40:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I mean they don’t know but we do what this scenario is
[2:41:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: could be some chemical deposit
[2:43:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 3 miles is about 5 km Mt Everest is 8 km
[2:44:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Anyway listen to this foot doctor Leir and Dolan mainly
[2:45:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: there is some good stuff from Leir at the end
[2:45:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hellyer is ok when reading from the ET telepathy
[2:45:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: most other stuff you can skip and Greer you know
[2:45:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The science bloke just describes our 'Cosmic magnetism' paper
[2:46:06 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[2:46:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he is wrong calling Einstein's Equivalence Principle wrong, but I know what he means
[2:46:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He means the prior magnetic monopole physics of rotating masses/inertia
[2:47:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will watch it
[2:47:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You will understand this well enough

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