Abraxas' Thuban Q&A

Firstlook wrote:

Abraxas,

How are you? I want a great answer for that question.

I thought this might be something interesting:

Tonight is the "wolf" moon.



The moon is, on average, 238,855 miles (384,400 km) from Earth. The moon's orbit around Earth – which causes it to go through all its phases once every 29.5 days – is not a perfect circle, but rather an ellipse. One side of the orbit is 31,070 miles (50,000 km) closer than the other.


So in each orbit, the moon reaches this closest point to us, called perigee. Once or twice a year, perigee coincides with a full moon, as it will tonight, making the moon bigger and brighter than any other full moons during the year.


What would you recommend for our minds to understand this relation better, in light of this closeness?

Our there relations within ourselves that would benefit and help others within this night especially?

Also:

The moon illusion


Finally, be sure to get out and see the full moon as it rises, right around sunset. Along the horizon, the moon tends to seem even bigger. This is just an illusion.


You can prove to yourself that this is an illusion. Taking a small object such as a pencil eraser, hold it at arm's length, and compare its size to that of the moon just as it rises. Then repeat the experiment later in the night and you'll see that the moon compares the same in both cases. Alternately, snap two photos of the moon, with a digital camera or your cell phone, when the moon is near the horizon and later when it's higher in the sky. Pull both photos up on your computer screen and make a side-by-side comparison.


Astronomers and psychologists agree the moon illusion is just that, but they don't agree on how to explain it.
Could you ask Thuban about this little "illusion". I thought it would be silly to ask such a light question at first, but every little thing is what you make it.

Hey thanks Abraxas. Its really great the time you spend here on the forum with the rest of us. I hope you are enjoying from this what you can.


peace

Dear firstlook!

If the sun is overhead at noon, it appears smaller against a cyan coloured sky and when the sun is setting, it appears bigger against a reddening sky.

There is more light scattering in the evening because the sun is 'cooler' and 'dimmer' in that less sunlight penetrates the atmosphere. The sunlight must travel further in the apparent orbit of the sun around the sky.
This orbit will increase the ARCLENGTH of the angular chord subtended at the reception point of the sunlight (your eye and retina), compared to the ARCLENGTH subtended or projected where the sun diretly overhead.

This so allows more red light frequencies to get through the atmosphere than the midday sun, which absorbs the red frequencies by gas particles and scatters only the blue frequencies (red light is less energetic than blue light and defined by frequencies).

The MOON reflects the sunlight and so describes the same atmospheric physics and optics as a Mirror.

The closeness of the Moon so becomes the 'greater arclength' projection in addition to 'optical illusions' like Oculomotor micropsia and macropsia . Here is a reference:

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/3d/moonillu.htm

For a more technical description of the Moon's ACTUAL apogee-perigee sizes consult the link:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/moon_ap_per.html

AA

halebox wrote:
What are the effects of cell towers on humans? How close is too close?

Dear halebox!

What is the effect of alcohol on humans? How much is too much?

Cell phones exist and alcohol exist. Nothing exists in isolation relative to the whole. When a new technology or 'drug' becomes available, then many of the consequences of the then novelty remain comparatively unknown, until some time has allowed for 'Nature' to adopt to this new environmental interactions.
The laboratory fabricated AIDS virus took about a decade to be processed by 'nature' and only then would HIV positive mothers be enabled to give birth to HIV negative babies.

The below reference might give you more information.

http://www.emwatch.com/Cellmasts.htm

halebox wrote:
What can orgone be used for?

Orgone is Chi is Prana is the 'Holy Spirit' is the lifeforce, coupled to the ZPE and so ubiquitous. It's usage is basically an individuated resonance physics and not accessible for technological utility until the human groupconsciousness has evolved to 'tap' the ZPE.

halebox wrote:
You mentioned the darkworkers are actually lightworkers as they have their purpose and are part of the balance. This is really hard to digest but Im starting to get this and I feel some people will never go to the light no matter how hard you try. So the darkworkers who influence these souls are in a sense making sure that all around me are of similar intent if I make it to 4D this time around. At the same time fulfilling their agenda.
I will keep full force ahead in my mission but at some point beyond my control the door closes for the followers. I did my best. Its a very odd sense of relief knowing that negative forces influencing people who have their own will to choose the dark side is at some point is out of my control but yet is all ok and will always be this way. wow

It is 'good' that you are beginning to 'get this'. You should also try to understand that the 'darkness' is restricted to say 5th density in dichotomized (twofold polarity) expression and will beautifully coexist in complementary fashion with the 'light' in the higher densities.
The 'light' is as one with the 'darkness' in a MODULAR DUALITY allowing the macrocosm of say galactic supercluster scales to BE in Holographic Unification with the microcosm of wormhole singularities.

So the 'dark ones' perceived in 3D to 5D are or will be unified in the 'higher perpectives'. As you have or beginning to find out for yourself; the 'negative ones' are helping the 'bigger plan' to bring about maximum polarization for the universal transformation to occur.

halebox wrote:
Thuban view on eating meat?

This is a VERY VERY important question halebox and I shall spend some time on it after thanking you for asking this question.

The human body is a biochemical reactor, which has evolved for so 2.2 billion years in a feedback mechanism between itself and its environment.
The least self-conscious way to GAIN and grow in consciousbness was to EAT ones environment, say in the form of a Caterpillar, preparing for its pupasation and transformation into a pollinating and so food-giving butterfly.
When you eat an apple, the ;ifeforce of the apple blends its apple-consciousness with your human consciousness and you attain apple consciousness.
So on some faraway planet, where apple-intelligences reside, this apple-sentience receives data from the human consciousness by this mirroring of consciousnesses.

If the human does not eat a ripened apple, ready to fall of the apple tree; then the worms or birds or beetles of the ground will consume the apple consciousness in a similar cosmic interaction.
Alternatively, the oxygen in the air and so the elements will disintegrate and disperse the apple consciousness.

This analgy is applied to the present humanity, literally eating itself via its enviroment as a remnant of its nature as a biochemical reactor.

The Starhuman will no longer be required to 'eat' like a caterpillar, but will 'eat' like a butterfly in a mutual beneficial environmental feedback system.

If the 'wild animals' upon Gaia would have no more need to hunt and eat each other, then all so called exploitative human-alien interaction would cease also.

So fundamentally, KNOW that YOU are eating an alien, when YOU are eating your steak or your piece of bread or a carrot or a peanut or a fish.

Of course eating the peanut or the apple or the wheat is different from eating 'dead meat', as the apple from the apple tree regrows as produce from the roots of the tree from below and nourished also from the sunlight from above.
Eating a carrot is somewhat different than eating a chicken, but nevertheless requires the 'killing' of the carrot.
But ask yourself. What happens to the carrot should you not eat it and what happensd to the chicken should it not be eaten?

The carrot would become fertilizer for its next recycling in consciousness, either agan as a carrot or as some other consciousness via its own 'composting'.
Similarly, the chicken would get old and die and become 'recycled'.

This is the Agony of the entire Creation'.

Romans 8:21-23 (King James Version)



21Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

It so is the CORRUPTION of the Biochemical reactor, requiring food, which is at THE CORE of the 'agony of the universe'.

So when the fox eats the chicken, the chicken becomes part of the fox and when the human eats the chicken, the chicken becomes part of the human. This is the NATURAL LAW implemented and executed in AGONY by the Creation Herself.

When the perception of the Draconian Reptilian eating a human enters the consciousness of the human groupmind, then this is not so different from a Tyrannosaurus Rex eating a human (Jurassic Park movie) or a Shark or Alligator eating a human. The same Natural Law has applied.

The 'Natural Agony' will subside once the 'New Natural Order' has been born.

Isaiah 11:6
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isaiah 11:7
And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Finally, the Thuban perspective of consuming anything is this.

If you decide to eat a killed animal, then KNOW and UNDERSTAND where the 'meat' is coming from. Imagine the living cow and the living fishand the living carrot before you consume its old 'container' and acknowledge your kinship with what you so consume.
KNOW that you are eating the 'life memories' of the bodyform you are consuming (Not its soul) in a blending of your consciousness with It.

There is NO judgement about you choosing what to eat.
To be carniverous demands of you to acknowledge the killing of roaming animals to feed you.
To be a vegan demands of you to acknowledge the killing of growing and living vegetables.
If you would not eat 'animal flesh', then the animal would either not exist in bodyform in having been bred or in dying of old age or disease. (So you might perceive the utter significance of PETS as human companions).
If you would not eat 'vegetable flesh', then the plantform would either not exist in bodyform in having been planted or it would recycle as compost to further the CONSCIOUSNESS Evolvement of the collective in holographic dispersions.


Titus 1:15
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

halebox wrote:
So earth humans ascending will become Starhuman then become Dragons?
Those who stay in 3D eventually become the Greys?

No, the Greys are linked to Insectoid-Hive groupconsciousness of the collective and the Humans are programmed to become the Mirror of Mirrors within the universe in the Human+Dragon=StarHuman definition of the Logos.

halebox wrote:
Are emotions a 3D trait?

Yes, the BASE emotionality is 3D upon which the higherD emotionalities MUST be built as a Seedling Energy connecting the so called Physicality with the so called Mentality.

halebox wrote:
Describe visually the Pleadian race.

Human Consciousness blended with Cetacean Consciousness.

halebox wrote:
Describe visually the Arcturian race.

Human Consciousness blended with Pachydermian Consciousness.

halebox wrote:
Describe visually the Sirian race.

Human Consciousness blended with Canine Consciousness.

halebox wrote:
Describe visually the Andromedan race.

Human Consciousness blended with Feline Consciousness.

halebox wrote:
Name race and planet not discovered or mentioned yet on our internet.

Akbar Ra in the Sirian starsystem.

halebox wrote:
What is the effect of an abortion to all involved.

The soul enters the physicality upon conception and following a choosing in the NoSpaceTime about the environmental factors likely to be encountered.
So the possibility of being aborted is assessed before incarnation. A 'wished for' pregnancy so carries much less probability for abortion, then impregnation of a teenager.

Nevertheless all abortion procedures attach the experience of allowing and experiencing the abortion in the superconsciousness of the interacting souls (including the father).
The superconsciousness then inducts the subconscious inducts the waking consciousness with emotions, feelings and thoughts, subject to processing by the Heart-Mind coupling say. To switch polarity of the Thinking rationalising mind with the Feeling emotional heart so often becomes a 'self-enforcing' issue to process feelings of guilt, suicide, despair and indifferences.

AA

orthodoxymoron wrote:
abraxasinas...are you (or have you ever been) in charge of Earth and/or the Solar System?

No orthodoxus; neither do I desire to. I have enough trouble being 'in charge' of my own bodyforms.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
I'm not being sarcastic or flippant. I'm interested in the governmental system of Earth, the Solar System, and the Universe. I keep thinking of a Hybrid Goddess of This World ruling Earth from an Underground Stargate Temple...who might resemble the young lady who accompanies your posts.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg

In a sense...I don't care who's in charge...as long as Earth, the Solar System, and the Universe are properly governed...with a minimal level of corruption and insanity...and a maximum level of responsible freedom. Again...I'm not being sarcastic or flippant. The problem is...that Power Corrupts...and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely. There may be no exceptions to this rule...which is why I am very nervous regarding Gods, Goddesses, and Theocracies. I'm not rebellious...just scared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM

I worry about things like the Crusades, the Inquisition,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx8Pd...eature=related

the World Wars, Nuclear Weapons,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMQnA...rom=PL&index=1

Aimed Asteroids,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFwnGiu9eV8

Induced Pole Shifts and Tectonic Movements,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyCCd

...eature=related Assassinations, Terrorism,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mz0_x7313I

Extermination Events

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mFn9EhgU4

(such as the Global Flood,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbEI8pDz0A

Earth Changes, etc.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czgjf...om=PL&index=25

Thanks again for doing this thread. The volume and complexity of the information is overwhelming. It is unlike anything I have ever encountered.

Neither will you encounter anything like this anywhere orthodoxus. This Thuban data is simply data, JUST WORDS, which will be used, not by the messenger, but by the Oneness behind the data, that which I call the Cosmic Logos.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Is there a planet in the Pleiades named Pleon?

Well indeed Pleaon exists orthodoxus - You are its Creator and the physical reality of Pleon is as real as the UFOs.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
I used this name in a fictional story...in which I said that I was from Pleon in the Pleiades. I have since learned that there is a star in the Pleiades named Pleione. I didn't know that when I wrote the story.

Pleione is the female 'wife' and mother of the Seven Sisters with Atlas her 'lover'.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
I received the following responses from posts I have made on the internet. They don't sound human.

'Y'all love fantisizing over my ancestral decorations, places, spirituality that you don't get, the greatness you won't achieve, and the melanin you'll never have. This depiction of my ancestors is pathetic. Y'all always make them look just as degenerative and recessive as you. Anyway, play and have fun as much as you still can. Yes you are running out of time, and to be honest, there is absolutly nothing you can do about it. I have no mercy, you lie and mock and blasphem all the way to hell.'

Very human egocentricity orthodoxus.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
On another website...I received this message:

'You know this isn't funny! The Lord God will judge you for claiming God ship. Just because God showed you a little bit of His secrets you think you know everything. He will NOT have mercy on you!' [orthodoxymoron note: This was in connection with me fictionally using the name KRLLL - causing me to wonder if someone equated Godship with the name 'Omnipotent Highness KRLLL'?]

Very human ego mimicking the divine ego of God (who does not judge and is always full of 'mercy').

orthodoxymoron wrote:
I once heard a mocking, sing-song, high-pitched feminine sounding voice...emanating from a usually deep and masculine voiced televangelist...directed toward me...in public...almost shouting 'That was gooooooood!!!!'...in reaction to a polite, well intentioned, and well reasoned comment by me.

Even more so human ego-based, accentuating separation and not the natural unity of God.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
This was a short unedited internet exchange I had some time ago:

ME: What if the aliens who have been here for thousands of years are the 'bad-guys'? What if we will need the help of good aliens from elsewhere to get rid of the demonic aliens who are already here? Could this be viewed as a hostile alien attack? I really don't know. I am just speculating.

THEM: Try not to think in terms of good or bad. Understand this is not your planet. Then, understand nothing can be done to you that you don't do to yourself. Know that there are quadrillions of planets and they don't have a massive climate change every 26,000 years and violent deranged people like yourselves. Why on Earth would any race want to live here with you knowingly? The most intelligent life on the planet is not human.

This is basically true, but omits the 'inner human core' whch IS in fact the most intelligent cosmic lifeform (the planet belongs to All) - yet remains hidden in the superconsciousness ONLY accessible by the Individual Logos partnering the Cosmic Logos.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
ME: I'll try not to think of the Iraq War in terms of good or bad. I'll try to be morally ambiguous. I might even become CIA or a CEO. Hey, maybe violent and deranged is neither good nor bad...but thinking makes it so. The aliens who are here need us to not get our acts together. If that happens...they'll probably have to live on Nibiru...or worse. Sorry for being a smart-ass. Wait...I'm not sorry...it's neither good nor bad. I couldn't resist. I mean well. Really.

THEM: And your point was?...............

ME: Who owns earth? Where do humans belong? What is the most intelligent life on earth? If they are so smart, and earth is so bad...why are they here? I may be deranged...but I'm not violent. You sound as though you are not human...are you an alien? If so...what kind...and from where? My point was that ethics are supremely important. I don't hurt, kill, terrorize, or abduct people...but some aliens apparently do(as do some humans). They should stop.

THEM II: Don't we like...create our own world? We're destroying our own world because our society isn't healthy.

Now THEM has become a projection of earth in a true mirror imaging.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
ME: Our planet is how we plan it. Perhaps we need to fire some people in the planning department. You're right...society is sick...mentally ill. Perhaps our world is the Devil's Island Insane Asylum of the Universe. But it seems that some of the inmates are getting well...and helping other inmates to get well. Jail Break! Jail Break! Free at Last! Free at Last!

No further comments in this exchange. My questions went unanswered. The silence was deafening.

THEM had given the 'game away' in imaging themselves as earthling cionsciousness.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Here is another internet conversation I had with someone who claimed to be a hybrid...which I found to be very interesting:

Veronica: Mad humans always existed, just don’t blame their actions (if existed) to the Reptilians. Is too easy to say people are been led by other species evils than admit that there are humans nuts by themselves. Reptilians are good, they only approach a human when they fall in love, and to do good to the beloved person. Satan is a word that means "attorney" in the original language. It is not an individual, the word can apply to many alien lawyer that have nothing to do with humans.

Veronica is from Thuban in the words above.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Orthodoxymoron: Is the Old Testament God really Satan...a Reptilian. Could the "attorney" definition have something to do with the legalism seen in the Old Testament? We humans are pretty disgusting in our own right...but I suspect that evil spirits and evil aliens make things a lot worse. Who is responsible for abductions, mutilations, etc? And what about the frightful appearance of alleged Reptilians. I'm not anti-alien...just anti-evil.

Veronica: Thanks for commenting on my post, and for the opportunity of bringing up this subject. The Old Testament Satan came from a species called Man of Tri. He was a good guy, having a beautiful personal trajectory of defending social rights on his planet, extremely intelligent, only bright and right lawyers are chosen to be a Satan. At the time he arrived on Earth, unfortunately, he had become insane, and he did a lot of harm, but it was because he was ill. His species lives 8.000 to 10.000 years of Earth, and he stayed much of this time here, doing harm. As there was few personnel from other species working here, few angels and lots of work to do in those days, nobody caught him. I am not aware if Eden destituted him while he was alive, but he did not act as a Satan here, though he had the Satan seal because he was a nominated Satan ( by Eden High Council). He acted as an insane man, because he was maddened by an illness. See, there is Good and Bad, and there is Evil. Good and Bad are complementary in a context. Evil is out of place. This is because the source of Evil is an illness. It is a virus. We call it virus of Tri because was first detected there. This virus attacks a small percentage of most populations. All species are united to find the cure, all species have problems with maddened guys, and, as humans, in all species most individuals are good guys living by common sense and good social rules.

Yes, Veronica is still Thubanese, but has begun to filter too much data from 2nd Order into the many many many polarity labels of the 3rd Order.
Recall, the 1st order is Unity internally and externally undifferentiated.
2nd Order is Polarity still unified externally, but internally differentiated as a Oneness - the Cosmic Hologram of the Holographic Universe has not yet become 'shattered' in dispersion.
3rd Order is Polarity differentiated both within and without.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Orthodoxymoron: Your website is very interesting. I'm wondering if you have heard of, seen or read a book titled 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen G. White? If so, what is your opinion? What is your opinion regarding the Teachings of Jesus? What is your opinion regarding the U.S. Constitution? What can you tell me about the New World Order? Is it really the Old Alien Order? Who was ultimately responsible for 9/11? Satan as a mentally-ill attorney is a fascinating possibility...

Veronica: I will bring the answers here later, just stopped quickly now to thank you. The FAQ is stuck for lack of questions and you really do good ones.
I don’t speak alone, I am supported by Lucifer embassy and by Eden. I got a long message from a Messenger Angel about these, it will take a while to translate, but I will let you know. Basically, about the book of Ellen White as well as the Teaching of Jesus, the message focus on the fact that we are the ones making the history now, there is no need to focus on history to know anything important. Each happening of history is fit for the time it happened. Constitution, summary: the real law is the law of Nature, not clearly understood yet, and the value of the C. relies on its closeness to the natural laws, not imposing limits to it. The C. is to assure freedom, but the freedom only exists when there is no need of law, be to limit, be to let free, other than the nature. As an overview, the U.S. Constitution is advanced, but not finished. Nature allow development and technology, as it works for the Aliens. What changes is the concept about life. New World Order never existed. If humans made their organizations, they were never powerful to threaten the entire world. Never existed an Alien Order, they are ordinary civilizations, with teachers and accountants and social philosophies, living well and satisfied, solving their problems as everyone else. I know it is hard to believe after all this negative marketing, but they are just here doing routine. About 9/11 the answer of the Angels is: All that participated of 9/11 are already dead.

Veronica is still acting under the Shadow of Thuban - she is strong in her intent; but as you can see, she is requiring help from the Luciferic realm to answer your questions. This Luciferic Realm IS Thuban.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
I will put the answers here if you don’t mind, not to overload the comments on the video. You are welcome. The old testament is genuine, it was transmitted by Eden, and the prophets translated the best they could, but the angel’s language is not a piece of cake, and there are many misinterpretations, specially after translated to other languages and analyzed. People have the right to know how things are. I am a fallen angel, you probably heard that we born in human form. We have being trying to tell these things for many millennia, but the kings always kill us and burn our books. But this time there is Internet. I am telling this things on You Tube because I am still not sure if the powers of human will not try to burn the books again, if we start to speak to many people at once. Though the world is more civilized now. When you feel comfortable you can visit my blog, there is many more there about the Creation. There is also a book for download, it is a poem done by me with the angel Ariel, that is my brother. It was done to heal the heart, when people sometimes feel tired of the harshness of life. All material there is free and Creative Commons, we don’t want anything from anyone. We speak because it takes us closer of home. Have a great week.

Veronica's disposition is becoming more 3rd Order, but she realises some very important principles, such as:
All material there is free and Creative Commons, we don’t want anything from anyone. We speak because it takes us closer of home.

Veronica's agency as a messenger from the 12th dimension remains valid.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
About spirits: The spirits disturb, really. The fact is that spirits must remain sleeping, and when they are awake they do disturbance. What is important to understand is that never had, and there is not yet, personal enough to suffice the demand of work in Earth. The grays are the responsible to collect the lost spirits, this is part of their job and they are paid to do it and do well, but they are few with few equipment compared to the quantity of ghosts. If someone feel that is being disturbed, he must ask to the gray of his area to chase that specific ghost and the problem will be solved. They usually focus to sane the problems where more humans are being affected. To call the gray just make the request near one of their communication devices. These communicators are discretely placed where the community gathers to discuss the problems, such as churches or community centers, and by what they hear on these places they know where to act to solve the problems affecting more people at once. If someone speak to them directly pointing the problems, they can act more effectively.

Veronica is describing 3rd Order information from the polarised perspectives.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Mutilations: Aliens never mutilate. Not even the criminals. Simply because third dimensional material has no use for anyone but to those who live in it. Most aliens can jump from 3rd to 4th dimension, but their feeding and living is done in the 4th. The 3rd is just for work, tourism or study. For any alien species the bodies of the 3rd D are troublesome to deal with directly, and is pointless. The cattle mutilations are done by rats, birds and small animals. There is plenty of analysis of these supposedly mutilated by abduction corpses, and most of them point to very understandable causes, though there might be something bizarre on nature that we cannot understand. If you wish to research deeper, there is a complete article done by a Brazilian magazine called UFO with legists doctors examining many of these cattle. All of them concluded the mutilations were done by rats, that choose the soft parts to eat first – eyes, nose, mouth, ears, reproductive parts, and from these to inside. The opening made by the small creatures who live from corpses are generally perfect and round, and they eat first from inside, it is easy to see at an apple eaten by worms. From outside it can looks good, and the small hole is perfectly round.

Veronica is describing 3rd Order information from the polarised perspectives.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Real abductions: The Grays are the “nanny” of human species, as the human species of Gaia is young and still entitled do receive special care. Is the grays duty to assure that all human on the group under their care gets food, shelter and sanitary conditions ( not richness, it is only about the health). So, they ionize the air to kill bacteria, influence for resources to reach hospitals, researchers and sanitary organizations. The abductions occur when a special human individual gets ill, the “special” relies on fact that the person is a hub for the distribution of resources to many others humans. If that person gets ill many will be without resources and will be consequently ill too, so the grays operate this hub person so he can keep up as a resources distributor for that area. It is expensive for the grays, done rarely. But as humans start to communicate directly with the grays they might even buy this operations perhaps, paying by sending resources to other humans in need from that gray group. They do these exchanges with some sensitive’s, sometimes.

Veronica is describing 3rd Order information from the polarised perspectives.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Reptilian appearances: The Reptilians are moved by the heart. They fall in love with humans more frequently than you can imagine, then they try to approach the person and everyone gets scared. They are an old, old species, with all existential problems solved, so they live in search of love and adventure. They are scary, of rude gestures, and cannot communicate well with humans, so the misunderstandings and confusions they cause are huge, but there is always an impulsive Reptilian in love behind, usually he does not succeed in his affair, sometimes do. They can fall in love with a person, with a population, with a politic system, with a project being made, by an object or place. It has nothing to do with the “take the world” theories, even because they don’t have to take, the Earth belong to them, and the Angels protect Earth because of them ,as they don’t fit anywhere else, while humanoids can be taken to other places. They are rough in the outside, and most sweet on the inside. Here is their place, the humans just need to learn to understand them, and I am sure will be great for all. They love to have other species living here, when a civilizations ends they long for the next.

Veronica is using words from 3rd Order has however returned to the Thuban perspective in attempting to define and describe the Human+Dragon=StarHuman equation.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
I hope this information has a use for you. It is not something I read or heard, the source are the own Alien representatives. I took the task to clarify the misconceptions on the media on my group, and the intention is only to inform our point of view. I chose to speak person to person, with those who are interested on the issue, as being half-human myself.

Yes, here Veronica is 2nd Order Thubanese again.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Veronica: Hello friend, You Tube is making me tired. It is like a rally road and I don’t like it, I am a girl. Here are most boys trying to combat, not to fix on the subject. For discussion, only you were interesting. Keep my e-mail if you wish. You are welcome to discuss anytime.

Veronica the Dragoness - how interesting and enticing for the Dragons protecting their treasures in their lonesome caves.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
Orthodoxymoron: Thank-you for your answers and comments. I hope that the internet and You Tube will help people to learn how to communicate more effectively and nicely. I hope things turn out well for everyone...humans, aliens, everyone. I even hope that Satan can learn to be happy without being mean and causing trouble. I don't want anyone to be miserable. Life should be enjoyed. I hope this universe can get past war. We should compete constructively...not destructively. Peace to you.

Namaste

Satan is the IMAGE of the True God/Source/Creator in the Mirror of 11D - both inside in 10D and outside in 12D.

The true Satan is SATANIA and has never left the Mirror and cannot leave the twosidedness thereof UNTIL the 11D-mirror becomes Onesided.
Then Satania will merge with the ascended Gaia becoming HER GLORIOUS HERSELF in the cosmic sexchange operation behind the dramas and the theatres.

AA

Spregovori wrote:
Hi Abraxasinas, i think it is time to upgrade what i have "got" this far...starting with confusion and hopefully ending with conclusion ..like the last time

In the process of "becoming" we compete against ourselves?
I am my own enemy? Not some "evil draconian, gray"..etc?

Yes.

Spregovori wrote:
Is this the "greatest trick" of them all? The only evil there is is the man itself?

Yes, the thinking of 'evil' becomes a context for the thinking of 'good' to become meaningful and a choice to experience.
Think of LOVE existing everywhere to be experienced. The experience would be meaningless without KNOWING and HAVING EXPERIENCED the Absence of that LOVE. This is archetyped as the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' being the precursor for the 'Tree of Eternal Life'.

These differences in context have been omni-scientifically defined and so CAN become PHYSICALLY implemented.

Spregovori wrote:
All that is required is for us to do our best? (actually a very hard thing)
After the competition is over we can be united within ourselves?

Yes, its the contextual scenario must exist, before the Nature of Love-Reality can truly be Understood and appreciated.

Spregovori wrote:
Being...child like...being pure, inquisitive, "naive", opened, not judgmental, without prejudice....helps a lot during this process?

Of course - the BEING LOVE incarnated in bodyforms.

Spregovori wrote:
What is it -to be born again - to truly know yourself?

To know yourself to be an intimate part of both Cosmic Father-Creator and Cosmic Mother-Creation - a Child thereof growing up to propagate GoddoG's Family.

Spregovori wrote:
Everything i experience is a counter reaction for my action?
If so...can action be forced on me, without me making the 1st step (provoking it)?

This is the 'greater picture' of your individual soul knowing itself to also BE the 'collective' soul. The linear lifetime experience so often veils the deeper purposes only known to the 'collective;' soul. So familiarising yourself with the 'oversoul' aka the 'worldsoul' is the easiest way to discover your own secrets hiding within yourself.

Spregovori wrote:
If one can be influenced in this manner, how is this to be understood?
Is this a necessary experience or something that should (if possible) be avoided?

As in the above - only your own Logos as part of the Cosmic Logos KNOWS.

Spregovori wrote:
How conscious am I....or all of us...during our wake time?

It goes 1-2-4 and so 1/7th is waking consciousness; 2/7th is subconscious and 4/7th is superconscious.

Spregovori wrote:
Am i unknowingly creating much of what happens to me?

Your Logos connected to the SuperLogos does.

Spregovori wrote:
While thinking i am doing one thing..."somewhere" in the background there are "forces at work" that i am not aware of?

Definitely and as in the preceding answers.

Spregovori wrote:
This one might a "long shot" (but i just can not resist): what is my cosmic ID?

Whatever you choose to label it in superconscious awareness.
Labeling remains valid in the subconscious and the waking consciousness, but is filtered by your thoughtforms you create about yourself and your environmental interactions.

Spregovori wrote:
If i attempt to understand what i perceive with my senses as a star trek holodeck - can this help me to understand things better?
How do i stop the program and exit the holodeck?

Look into a mirror and change perspective of being Spregovori in Wonderland or Spregovori in Realityland.

Spregovori wrote:
This one might be a little "strange"...if you perhaps know it...in star trek TNG (a great show with many deep topics) there are beings named Q**. It snaps its fingers and behold...the relative gravity of the universe is changed...and things like that... Q = a distant future human to be? or is there anything like that now? - who and where?

This kind of supernaturality cannot exist physically. There exists an advanced physics, which allows the 3D displacement vector to become scaled, meaning the velocity parameter changes as a function of the scale change relative to a superimposed frequency.
The sci-fi idea you are referring to visualized this scenario the basic equation is: V(n=Hot)=R(n).F and where R(n) is the displacement INDEPENDENT on linear time in the cancellation of the Hubble-Frequency Ho (as inverse time) multiplied by a linear time t.

Spregovori wrote:
**(Q Continuum is an extra-dimensional plane of existence inhabited by a race of extremely powerful, hyper-intelligent beings known as the Q The Q have the ability to warp reality at a whim, ranging from appearing in any place they choose to rearranging the cosmos themselves, they are not omnipotent, just beyond the comprehension of some beings of lesser knowledge and intelligence.)

Yes, the physics equation above is the key to the wormhole travelling and the warping of spacetimes.

Spregovori wrote:
There are many times when i realize that as much "good" i can do as much "evil" i can do. It mostly feels better when i do what is classified as good. although when i was younger it was...different...younger as = teenager. But at the same time i can easily imagine how would the situation look like if i were to - do it the other way. And it is not that i can not do evil - that would be a lie and a big one. When i do good i choose not to do evil - it is only that and nothing more. I am not a "saint" or anything like that. At times like that i honestly ask myself what choice would i make if there were no such things as a law...i also ask myself what things would others do to me... and i somehow become to realize...that law is actually pushing us back...it is holding us back...preventing the experience. As "cruel" as this might sound i think it is true. Human animal hides behind the law...not doing what would it actually do...not experiencing what it would...not learning...not progressing or regressing as it should...it is artificial and unnatural...all rules are...or so i think.
But than again we are all so heavenly influenced that what i see as evil might not even be in my mind if all of this outside influence was not present...none of us would...and i wonder...just how would we behave...do and think...without the artificial form of control...

Use the Golden Rule to end your confusions here. Do and think about what you would like to be done and thought about you.
Before doing anything, think about the consequences of this doing in 'Walking in the other's Mocassins'.
Would you like to be treated some way? Would you like to experience the thing being done to you?
Would you be able to enjoy the thing being done to you in not being any form of manipulation or abuse, physical, emotional or mental?

Spregovori wrote:
Would i still know fear?
Would i still know laughter?
Would i be able to understand without feeling it?

Yes, to all of the above; as the 3D reality MUST be the SEED for any higherD form of reality.

Spregovori wrote:
Are our feelings distorted?
Is what we feel getting in a way?

The present 3D reality is designed or programmed for maximum polarisation to create the contextual background to allow the 3D seed to sprout into 4D and above.

Spregovori wrote:
.... there is just so much....what i "got" as a basic understanding (what i call my thesis) is not sufficient if i can not control my mind...if my mind is wild

If i am not aware of myself how do i control what i manifest?

To become the 'master' of your own thoughts is the first step to control the manifestations and from the mental into the emotional into the physical.

Without 'selfmastering' your own thoughts, you will remain in confusions.

AA

bigmo wrote:
How is it exactly that we master our own thoughts?

By what 'reference' point of determination do we begin this process; this self mastery?

The reference point for you is the statement: I Am Bigmo!

bigmo wrote:
Doesn't the term 'self mastery' connote a condition by which we have made (past tense) 'decisions' that inherently and by their very nature, require judgments?

I Am Bigmo Now and before I was Bigmo too. How is the Now Bigmo different from the before Bigmo? This is NOT judgement of self, but self-observation.

bigmo wrote:
And if we are making 'judgements' in these determinations (what action or thought process we choose to take) then by what 'code' or 'reference of cosmic awareness', do we use to determine whether our judgments will reflect (mirror) the outcome of self mastery?

Observations not judgements.

bigmo wrote:
If it is as simple as: "Love your neighbor as yourself." then that 'code' or 'reference of cosmic awareness' would be the premise by which all thoughts, judgments and hence actions would be weighted against in determining the right judgment.

In a way; the superconscious self is obscured by the self-observations evaluated by the waking consciousness and coloured by the subconscious. The superconscious attemps however to crystallize the concept of unity with all things by the Individual Logos communicating with the Universal Logos.

bigmo wrote:
Nothing new here and certainly common enough ideas to be sure.

So there must be something that we are missing in our understanding? Something about this 'code' as it manifest within our 3D experience that inhibits us from grasping the simple 'awareness' that leads us to self mastery. What is that?

Your obscured superconsciousness and the KNOWING not belief, that you are BOTH a separated Inmdividual AND the ONLY ONE existing.

bigmo wrote:
Does the knowledge of Thuban reside in the Akashic Records?

Only to the extent that it has been published here or at the related links.

AA

Firstlook wrote:

Hello Abraxas,

What of the "Forty Six and Two" theory.......


....by Drunvalo Melchizedek concerning the possibility of reaching a state of evolution at which the body would have two more than the normal 46 total chromosomes and leave a currently disharmonious state.[2][3] The premise is that humans would deviate from the current state of human DNA which contains 44 autosomes and 2 sex chromosomes. The next step of evolution would likely result in human DNA being reorganized into 46 and 2 chromosomes, according to Melchizedek.
......do you agree with?


Peace


joey

Yes Joey, I agree with Drunvalo here.

The great Apes still carry 24 chromosome pairs.
About 5 million years ago the ape lineages split genetrically from the lineage evolving into the hominids.
This split fused the 2-Chromosome for the hominid line, but kept the 2-Chromosome as a pair in the apes.

This then reduced the chromosome pair count in the human to 23.

The 'defusing' of a chromosome into a pairing, not necessarily the 2- Chromosome, so will render the human genome as a 48 count again.

My information is, that the defusing will occur in one of the female X-chromosomes.

The symbol is the X=Y+1 in that one of the four digits making the X will separate (as a real physical rib of Adam) to mutate one of the mother's X-chromosomes into a female Y-chromosome.

This will 'resurrect' the original metaphysical supersymmetry YX|XY before the physical universe exited.

The reproductive quadroplex so will be:
YfXm+YfYm+XfXm+XfYm replacing the present YfX1+YfX2+XfX1+XfX2

So if you assign the present female X2 a 'disguised' Y polarity; then everyone's quadroplex carries a say Sodomic YfX2 and a Gommorahic XfX2 same sex attraction within the quadroplex and deriving from the undifferentiated XX-Babylon sexchromosomatic coupling.

Iow, everyone in the new dispensation will carry a harmonious distribution of the previously disguised maleness chromosome as a then renormalised and unified genetic selfexpression. This Thuban science labels the Natural Bisexuality of the StarHumanity in the HeShe-SheHe couplings and as indicated by the Logos in:

Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

AA

Spregovori wrote:
I need additional clarification regarding - Logos, to understand the last answers.

I admit i was rather surprised...a lot of yes answers. It seems i can do better than i would think...think of myself...

Universal Logos = Christos = Forethought = Mosaic Law = Oneness = Source Energy ?

Universal Logos=Christos=Forethought
Mosaic Law=Voided by the Logos in New Law as per NT
Oneness=Source Energy

Spregovori wrote:
Each individual has its own Logos?

Yes.

Spregovori wrote:
Logos of each individual have an effect on the Universal Logos?

Yes.

Spregovori wrote:
Universal Logos can, in time, be changed via individual Logos?

Universal Logos=Unity Template of Christos=Logos Spregovori+Logos X +Logos Y+...+...

Spregovori wrote:
By changing the Universal Logos = change of the archetypes?

No the Universal Logos is the only Logos, which CAN change archetypes. All individuated Logi can however attempt to change archetypes in the Name of the Universal Logos. Then if the Universal Logos agrees, the archetypes change.

Spregovori wrote:
So theoretically...sometime in the future...everything can be/will be different?

Things change every Now-Moment=Quantum of Time=1 3thousandth millionth billionth trillionth of a cosmic second.

Spregovori wrote:
What does it mean to surrender to the Logos /Universal Logos?
How does one do that?

You are surrendering to the Oneness of the universe in allowing your individual Logos to become a servant of the Universal Logos. This servitude is however cocreativity in partnership, say like a 'think tank' or a family discussion group or council.

Spregovori wrote:
There are also other questions but at the moment i can not form them in most possible (for me) logical way (to make them as clear and as basic as possible).

You are doing just fine.

AA

UncleJohn wrote:
Hi Abrax,

I would say that the interface between consciousness and memory is of utmost importance. What you say abrax?

To discuss this with you in a meaningful way, the terms 'consciousness' and 'memory' require definition. I did this before and was grossly misunderstood. To reurgitate philosophical treatisizes and 'schools of thoughts' does not result in progress, because the scientific definition for the terms are so vague and underdeveloped.

The only way for me to reply to you would so be for you to ask specific and not generalised questions as in the above.

But to try in a nontechnical manner; 'Consciousness' is a property of space itself. Without space no consciousness coupled to physicality can exist.
Then 'memory' relates to information storage, this information being obtained by spacetime interaction.
So consciousness relates to space relates to memory.
This memory CAN be modelled on that of an electro capacitor.
This then relates the capacity of space to collect and harbour energy in a storable way.
So this data-energy must become related to the energy pathways permeating the dynamics of space interaction.
So we return to what space is in terms of energy and where this energy does not have to be conserved in the material, say entropic sense; but MUST be more fundamentally linked to the data existing BEFORE space existed.
So the metaphysics enters in a data=energy nonmaterialised.
Then the data=imaginary before materiality and requires definition of a preenergy or a metaphysical superenergy (just labels).
This is your P=NP halting problem.
Whatever subsets you may create, the unity (say the NP) persists and CANNOT be subdivided.
As soon as you partition the VOID=Eternity, the hierarchies and holofractal nestings appear and by the Goedel Paradox of the Incompleteness, you require a STRONGER AXIOM or criteria to 'prove' the axioms.
The strongest axiom so is the NP-Unity as the Universal Set say.

etc. etc.

UncleJohn wrote:
Where does your consciousness and memory reside Abrax?

Within the 11D-electromagnetically bounded universe, Uncle John. The quant count is a googol of so 147 digits.

UncleJohn wrote:
Who has hidden access or control over either?

Thanks Uncle John

The Universal Logos, because IT alone spans and encompasses the spacetime quanta in summation and completion and expansion.

Your welcome

AA

Jacqui D wrote:
Hi Abrax, well it is very late here, but i was determined to read through all the posts i have missed the last few days i have not been on Avalon.
Whilst i find all the numerical side of your writings a little confusing a pattern is beginning to form in my mind and i still struggle with some and feel totally inadequate at times with all these teachings i would like to say it has been an exciting read.
I am glad the posts have turned a little more positive i felt in previous posts that some were becoming and feeling a little overwhelmed with your work a little dark.
I understand that light and darkness was created and both has a part to play in this creation each playing against the other or mirroring in your words another way of describing it.
I also understand if i am correct and please correct me of i am wrong that when the new earth this 4th density which comes with the ascension will be totally thought form.
Free from solid matter then?

No Jacqui, the 3D earth will be the SEED for the 4D earth and the present solidity will be like the kernel of a peach say. The softness of the peach is somewhat like the 4D, in that a fluidity of form will accompany the present 3D rigidity. This analogy is technically inaccurate, as the peach is 3D and not 4D, but the simili is valid.

Jacqui D wrote:
But we would have the free will to create in a rudimentary form.

I have always believed that we all need to be as innocent children again having none judgemental beliefs and seeing with heart not so much with the mind i know this has been instilled within us being indoctrinated into certain belief systems/religions/education and i guess worse of all our own parents setting a pattern which turned us basically into them.
When i look into the eyes of those innocent ones those tiny babies i see the true love the oneness which so sadly is lost, within a few months of birth.

Yes, whenever you look into the eyes of a newborn baby or puppy or kitten or such you are witnessing the presence of God. It is still there in the pets, if you have treated them honorably. The kids are forced by their environs to become like little egomaniacs, just to survive and this will change.

Jacqui D wrote:
I have been trying to connect back to past memories some have been given but so much more to understand.
I have also been having vast knowledge relayed to me recently continuously most evenings in a sleep state, very revealing to and i may add emotional things for me which i have always known since a little girl of who what i am.

I am a sceptic, strange thing to say really when i have my own experiences i do believe others i do not doubt and would never say this was not truth or is the truth i seem to have a mechanism within me that seems to click on when i read or take any information in, i am often told to use this mechanism and still i ask myself can i believe.

I had an encounter a year ago with two reptilians, this changed my life i was attacked by one it was a horrific attack and i guess i am still coming to terms with it.
If it wasn't for the mark they left on my right arm i may have questioned if it happened because it was like a nightmare but the mark substantiated this experience to be true.
I have been trying to find answers for this attack and why it happened to me, these were two warlords predator type beings.
I was told by the one that attacked me that "He had been looking for me for a long time" which made me feel he knew me and if he did how?

I don't know why i am telling you this i have wrote about this numerous times on this site and i should think most are sick of hearing about it now, but this was a very true and deep experience for me.
Someone asked me once was you frightened well yes of course i was, but you know one of the two preds was very kind to me and actually helped me and gave me healing. So i look at it differently now because i now know that not all reps are bad, as they are portrayed to be, just as we have good and bad in humans i realise we have good and bad in other races.
I have not entirely forgiven the one that attacked me i still find it hard but i know i must, i just want answers why me!

I have tried to be a good person all my life, i love all of creators creatures, i have spoken to mother earth she has helped me when i needed answers to questions i could not answer for myself.
I do believe i have been a victim of certain things which happen on this Earth, and i feel humans get a raw deal sometimes, being so dumbed down/memory loss and control, and i do feel we are controlled to extent we can not be the soul purpose of our problems there have been outer forces at and also.
Yet i know i have come here for this time to take on a commission as sort as so many today have.

Your writing has been in depth and intriguing.
thank Abrax.

The rep attack you experienced can have many causes Jacqui. I'll try to derive some info...
Ok, this is what I saw.
At a time long ago, you 'stole some eggs' from a reptilian nest.
Now this might have been say 5 million years ago and you were not in human form, but in an early hominid form, say that of a Australopithecine or Homo Ergaster or HomoErectus.
You had children yourself and you foraged for food to feed your young ones.
Now something strange happened, because you saw the reptiles, say a pair of prehistoric crocodiles look for their young.
You felt this strange emotion then, that you had 'taken their children' to feed your own and a sense of guilt in a mother's empathy entered your consciousness and selfawareness.

From this time onward, you felt a strange affinity with the Crocodiles, yet you alse feared them because of your guilt.
Subsequently, over millions of years, you never processed those 'strange emotions' of empathy coupled to guilt and fear and your lifetime incarnations followed you through to this time, where your reptilian brainstem has awakened to finally process your million year old encounter.

A thoughtform for the processing then resulted in your nightmare coupled to a psychophysical marking from the superconscious.
This thoughtform was your empathy of imagining what you would do to the crocodile, should it attempt to 'steal or abduct' your children to feel its young.

The mirror image of this of course became the reptoid pursuing you and exclaiming:
"I have been looking for you!"

AA

realitycorrodes wrote:
Greetings abraxasinas,

Thank you for your previous replies to my questions.

I wish to ask you personally.

Do you personally eat animals?

From the Thuban perspective I do not require food intake, related to the programmed lightbody following the metamorphosis,
From the human perspective I eat mainly vegetables and fluids, some fish and little meat.

realitycorrodes wrote:
Do the Thuban Council recommend eating animals (unnecessarily) to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Have you been to the Inuit country? There the diet is almost exclusively seal and fish; simply because nothing else is available there.
So your label of 'unnecessarily' is inappropriate in the Inuit country.

And yet the Inuit honours its seals and certainly does not engage in wanton slaughter. The seal is a close relative to the bear and the canines and so is rather closely affiliated with the consciousness evolution of the species interactions and the consciousness as a whole.

realitycorrodes wrote:
Or do they recommend eating a vegerarian diet to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Yes, generally a vegetarian diet high in alkaloids is more suitable for the human vessel and circulatory systems (endocrine, blood, nerve, intestinal etc); both in the ease of digestion and the containment of the biochemical nutrients.

realitycorrodes wrote:
Or they don't recommend either of the above as in their perception it does not matter?

We do not sit in judgement about what anyone eats. We observe what the 'health effects' are in the intake of substances and foods and then, following analysis, we may publish our conclusions.
One example would be alcohol in moderation has been found to be beneficial for the biochemical reactor; whilst the intake of artifical nicotine products has shown no beneficial effects at all, but has indicated many health problems.

realitycorrodes wrote:
Do the Thuban council recognise that it is unnecessary for humans to eat animals?

Yes, whilst the human genus has evolved to be omniverous, say with canine teeth reducing from the say canine or feline emphasis; a vegetarian diet can be entertained by finding appropriate substitutes for the proteins and vitamins required by the biochemical reactors.

realitycorrodes wrote:
P.S. I don't eat my friends the animals unnecessarily...in a world of abundance in the west at least ... it always looks unnecessary to eat our friends.

You are forgetting that animals eat animals and so some of your friends eat some of your other friends. I DO agree with your sentiments, but the time of the lion eating straw has not yet come. And yes there is no unnecessary 'slaughter and eating' amongst your friends.

realitycorrodes wrote:
P.S. Don't our friends the animals enjoy ever right to a long happy life absorbing and processing the experiences of the earth program from their perscpective. Their purpose as a learning function is surely more than just becoming fertiliser.

Yes, you have not understood my replies and are biased towards your own understandings and database.
The little ant in your garden is connected to ET intelligence and this is more than fertilizer, but relates to the Sharing of Consciousness.

realitycorrodes wrote:
P.S. I try to be harmonic. Love for me is harmonic. It does no harm! Killing an animal unnecessarily seems to be disharmonic to me? Eating the fruit form a tree and killing an animal seem very different things in terms of maintianing harmony.

That is what I said in my reply.

realitycorrodes wrote:
At the end of the day, I wish to experience harmony so I try to live as harmoniously as I can without inflicting the great horror/ pain upon my friends the animals. Why is this so hard for humans to understand?

What about the disabled zebra being attacked by a pride of female lions and being torn apart. This part of the 'Nature in Agony' has NO human input at all. Your sentiments are from the heart and in the 'New World' the zebra will NOT be food for the lions. Physical reality of the old world is more violent, as the 'sharing of consciousness' is 'forced' by nature's self-evolution.

realitycorrodes wrote:
Wishing Peace and the end of ignorance to all sentient beings!

To sit in judgement about the Natural World and its selfexpression can be considered to be a form of ignorance.

AA

hippihillbobbi wrote:
Abraxas --

I was reading some of the material i found on (one of??) your website(s) ..... some info apparently given by a reptilian from a race that has lived underground here for a long time. in general, i found it extremely interesting. the following question comes after an exchange where Lacerte (this reptilian's "name") tells her human interviewer that one or more of the "3 hostile alien races" here (she insists her race is not hostile to humans) have plans which somehow will cause harm to humans/humanity. Cue the interviewer:

Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.

Answer: You're wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don't think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies. Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you —even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place— defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don't expect any help from them.

AA -- what is your/Thuban perspective on this "alien's" answer?

I agree- You are the ants! This reference of yours seems unfamiliar. Could you give me the URL of where you found this. It is NOT Thuban material, but a background material for me to have commented upon to make a point just as this - You are the ants!

hippihillbobbi wrote:
and, one more question ....

Do Thubans or "Dragonized" consciousness have any inherently closer relationship to reptilian races than, say, 3-d humans do? i.e., do the archetypes of dragon/serpent as related to the original plan for this creation imply any special or "familial" connection between reptilian species and the body-mind-spirit complex known as Yeshua/Melchizidek [Logos]? (hope you can make some sense of what i'm trying to get-at here?!?)

As always, Abraxasinas, thanks so very much!

Hippihill

Yes, the simple equation is: Old Human+Dragon=StarHuman.
The Old Human is the reptilian brainstem, common to all vertebrates following the Reptilian emergence. The New Human then has a Dragon-Brain adding to the Triune Brain of present taxonomic classification.

A reference is Carl Sagan's book: The Dragons of Eden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dragons_of_Eden

The fourth part, i.e. the DragonBrain is the Melchizedek or Plumed Serpent agency.

AA

Julissa wrote:
Hi Abraxas!

I loved your answer about the children (and adults) with disabilities, it made me very happy. It could not have been any other way indeed!

I have a few more questions if you don't mind...


When Adam and Eve ate the apple, does it mean they “digested” the information? Or was it something else? I often wondered about this action of eating. Sleeping beauty also ate an apple and went into “dreamland.” The same happened to Sara in “The Labyrynth.” Alice needed some food in order to accommodate her body to each dimension; Chihiro also needed to eat something of that world in order to avoid not becoming completely see through in the spirit world. In the story of Enki this was also mentioned, that an earthling was forbidden to eat food from Nibiru for afterwards to their home they could not return and Annunaki after living too long on Earth lost their immortality. So I ask you: Does the ingestion of food accelerate energy transductions between densities?

Dear Julissa!

Firstly the Adam and Eve Story is archetypical and in no manner physical. But the metaphor of the 'absorption' or digestion is ok in that it refers to the 'Loss Of Ignorance' ergo the 'ingestion' of the 'Knowledge of Good and Evil' as a dichotomical bifurcation of a unified polarity in contextual comparitiveness.

Julissa wrote:
George Kavassilas talked about plastics and metal not passing through to the higher D, and I think Drunvalo M. also mentions it saying that was the reason the ancients built their houses of stone and that the ascended ones will arrive naked if their clothes are not made of a natural fabric. DM also says a couple of very tall beings will be waiting to greet them, guide them and take care of them in the beginning. That always intrigued me as to who they could be and how will the environment of the new world look like to the person arriving? Will it be devoid of anything metallic or plastic because it has a lower frequency? Will the New Earth only duplicate the “natural” environment and nothing else? If so, what will happen to those who have pacemakers and such materials inside their own bodies? Will they have no need for them instantly, knowing how and being able to change their physical appearance and/or heal themselves as soon as they arrive?

I have no such information about materials Julissa. These materials are as much part of the 'body of the universe' as is everything else. The atomic structure will change in magnetomonopolically inducing the 'mostly empty space' between the inner and outer atom, but this will leave the basic 3D physical structures intact. As said many times before, the 3D reality will remain as is, but become EXTENDED and supplemented in the 4D reality. This 4D reality will quantise as a wormhole summation count normally applied to the 3D Riemann Space.

Julissa wrote:
Many say Earth to the 5D will go, others say to the Fourth. In the book “The Genius Frequency” by John J. Falone it talks about the 4D as being a mental plane and not an actual place where you can reside for an extended period of time. Some refer to it as the ethers, and the mind of the Earth, etc. where thoughts materialize instantly hence the need to master your thoughts nestled within the “slow” 3D world. I think Astralwalker says something of the sort. JJF also mentions the 4D is where people go after death and when they dream but, when people daydream, visualize and use their imagination to create something they are actually tapping into the 5D. Since you always mention the 4th D, how is it that to the 4th D we will go and how does it differ from the 5th? If earthlings en mass to the 4D will go, how long to go en mass to the Fifth will take? Will there be some to move even higher and finally return home?

There seems to be so much confusion fed into the common human groupmind by the various channelers and interpreters of the archetypes. Of course, the soul travels in the 'astral', we call hyperspace after disassociating from the physical 3D container. The soul by definition is 10D, but cannot access the higher Ds unless it can attune its frequency of self-vibration (or density). So the soul, which is like an electromagnetic quantum field of consciousness 'journeys' about in the astral and encounters specific markers like junctions in a 'lifeforce' travelling from some twig on a branch on a tree back into the stem towards the roots and the seed of the tree (this is the tunneling of the NDEs btw).
I have explained the dimensions ad nauseum now in my replies. The 5th you mention is HyperSpaceTime of 4Spacedimensions plus 1 Timedimension. This is the confusion between 4th and 5th - its the same thing - one space only the other spacetime.

Julissa wrote:
Would you please expand on the special relationship between kids and their grandparents? Did you say that the parents are too busy inmersed in the Matrix or were you talking archetypes? If beyond the Sun is our father, and The Earth is our mother, who is our grandfather and grandmother? You know, when you gave the explanation about the word ABBA, my jaw dropped because my 9 yr old had told me a few days ago while watching "Spirited Away": "Yubaba...mmm...that name means: your father" I guessed he figured it out because of its sound? Well, after all, Yubaba is the Master of the "bathhouse." On this note, Zeniba, Yubaba's twin sister did say to Zen "call me granny" So, Zen-iba What is the relationship between them two? As you can see I love to figure out movies... haha

The Cosmic Father-Creator-SourceSink is the MindWave of the Universe and the Cosmic Mother-Creation-SinkSource is the BodyParticle of the Universe.
Notice that the Father is a Source=Giving of Energy and the Mother is a Sink=Receiving of that Energy as a PRIMARY definition. This is nought but your insemination to bear a child.
Later, after the transformation, the Father will get his old energy back as a new energy and vice versa for the Mother. This is the SourceSink-SinkSource duality unified.

So the Cosmic Father mirrors himself in Adam=Archetype in ANY Man able to become a Father.
Corollarily, the Cosmic Mother via Eve=Archetype becomes YOU as a Mother.

The 'masterplan' is to allow the Cosmic Father to become a Cosmic Grandfather; which He cannot become until Adam=Father Incarnate 'can produce' Cosmic Children. Similar for the Mother to allow a Cosmic GrandMother to exist...As Above, So Below!

Your 9-year old KNOWS superconsciously and as you know there is great wisdom found in the words of the little ones.

Julissa wrote:
I heard a story of someone who observed a small saucer shaped spacecraft very close and noticed the symbols (l0l) on it. This person was illiterate so he just called these “strange markings” a “stick” a “cero” and a “stick”. Someone else found a ring in the sea floor made up of metals not known on Earth with these same symbols. Some say it is the numbers 101, but I’m not so sure. Whatever it means I know you can also choose to “see” it numerically so it could be, but I sense it is part of a language that precedes the Berber of Tassili and has been found everywhere around the world. I know someone who found and held a tablet with such petroglyphs in the Andes region of Peru and recognized it was indeed a language because certain markings repeated themselves as commonly found in a written language. I think this language is the source from which all the ancient alphabets and numerical systems of Earth emerged from. Some who have gone to Agartha in their superluminal travels say they have seen it and were able to read it aloud. A friend of mine saw it in a dream where many were encouraging her to remember it. They told her that language was "Koh-Ran-ia" (name written as sound). (very similar to the writings found in Sahpuayacu-Peru see attch) From the Thubans perspective what do the numbers 101 represent? Could the "cero" between the two walls mean us between two dimensions? I have 101 on my front door.

Ah very important Julissa. The basic 101 simply refers to the mirror, say the golden candlestick in the middle of two olive trees as the final witnesses of God.
{Zechariah.4 and Revelation.11}.
Now 101=5binary as 0=0;1=1;10=2;11=3;100=4;101=5;110=6;111=7;1000=8; etc. etc.
101 is also the AlphaOmega of the Anglosaxon Arabic alphabet used as the hebrew-Anglosaxon replanting in 101 being precisely the 26th Prime Number:
{2;3;5;7;11;13;17;19;23;29;31;37;41;43;47;51;53;61 ;67;71;73;79;83;91;97;101}.

Including 1=A as the Alpha, the Circle Closes in 97=Z and 101=A*=Omega.

Furthermore; MELCHIZEDEK=101 as the '5 sacred trees in paradise' ka the 5 Platonic Solids aka the 5 elements (including the sacred essence) etc. etc.
Matthew 21:43
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
This is linked to many passages in Jeremiah and Isaiah.

Julissa wrote:
Many call the Paracas Candelabra of Peru a candelabra because it “looks” like one, however I don’t think it represent one at all. More than one symbol, I see it as an entire phrase or even a whole sentence or paragraph because I see many markings/letters/runes contained within it so I sense it could actually “say” something. In Nazca, I see the same symbols as geoglyphs. I am seeing this symbols everywhere now. What do you make of all this?

This is the Golden Candlestick mentioned before - the Menorah of the Seven as 3+1+3 or the Nine as 4+1+4 from the 1+0+1=2.

Julissa wrote:










What does the first symbol #1 (3 rings) in the attch. picture mean? Soon after doing some research about these writings and much to my surprise, I found this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCzpReQ_MNI

What do these rings in the beginning mean? The Christ Conciousness entering the Earth? Is it really Michael's sign?

Thank you very much as always,

JuLiSsa

You could call it this or part of the 'fulfilment of all prophecy' throughout all cultures and semiotik systems Julissa. There are many many interpretations and translation of the basic archetypes. These translations and interpretations then construct hieroglyphic systems and alphabets mainly based on the 1-2-3=Perfect Number count then becoming 4 elements or directions centered by a fifth; then the sacred 7 and 9 adjacent the masternumber 44=8 via 11, 22 and 33.
Your video and books and systems all have validity, if decoded in the ancient language codes originally implied.
A less hieroglyphic system is then mapped in the Nazca Lines, Crop Circles and Ice Circles.
A new system out, which I agree with (away from the marketing ploys) in general is called Biogeometrics, applied to the Egyptian cartouche forms and hieroglyphs.

Your welcome

AA

The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!

FUTURE SHADOWS OF THE PAST

"A most wondrous thing the Shadow is, a redeemer in all to succour;
it can go where the light cannot abide, seemingly banished, it is not.
For where the light is, the darkness flees, no longer present to endure;
so to become illuminated is its destined journey and its troubled lot.

But without the light, no Shadow can be cast, its such a splendid key;
the dimensions reduce in space from three to two and all in just the one.
Betwixt the light and the darkness it is and part of both for all to see;
the Shadow of the body, does it not merge all in its rule under the sun?

Whatsoever can cast a Shadow, must be a most wondrous thing to relay;
as nature's very own offspring, the young ones grow towards their final goal.
Enabled to bring peace to so many things appearing apart and so far away;
the reconciliation for the suffering body with its spirit and its scattered soul."

http://tonyb.freeyellow.com and http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/quantumrelativity

Jack wrote:
I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread, it has quite a lot of good information which resonates well with me and holds an air of truth.

And a special thanks to you Abraxasinas for the time and effort you've devoted to answering questions from everyone who's asked them. Your efforts are appreciated and respected, at least on my part.

I do have a number of questions which you may or may not be in a position to answer, however, I'll place them on the table and leave them to your own free will to shine a little bit of light on if possible.

1. I'm highly of the belief and somewhat eternal knowing, that we are undergoing a spiritual evolution of sorts, a kind of graduation if you will where those who are spiritually ready will proceed to graduate onto the next level of awareness, while there will be those who will continue an existance similar to this one in order to learn that which must be learned, and those who have ascended up the ladder of self will also move onto the next level where applicable. My question is, and id consider it open ended, what are we to experience in regards to our current path as a collective whole? ie ; Will those who have not moved on to that next level be met with a scorching of the earth, and various other cataclysmic events. And if so is the speed of such an event determined by the dominant vibratory resonance of the residents of earth.

Hi Jack!
The deepest insight you can have here is to understand who Vitruvius, aka Adam Kadmon aka Purusha aka Cosmic Man is. The dominant vibratory resonance then indeed defines the Many in Oneness and the One in the Manyness.
Once you have that figured out, you will know just where the 3Ders will be relative to the 4Ders. Revelation.21;22 describes this in colourful metaphorical semantics.
Of course one must also take into account the hologram of the microcosm within the hologram of the microcosm and the supramentalisation of matter.

Jack wrote:
2. I'm quite curious to know the extent of your knowledge and what portions you have access to. I myself, am sure of my purpose, but from your perspective, if you would, who am I and what is my purpose here.

Well if you go to the link; you can find out a lot more of the technical stuff. http://tonyb.freeyellow.com
If you consider yourself 'graduated'; then you already know, that you are who you define yourself to be in terms of Cosmic Signatures, Jack.

Jack wrote:
3. What is the ratio of people in this planet who are here to help, as opposed to those who are here in order to go through the evolutionary spiritual proccess which those who are here to help have already experienced and as such, "graduated".

Everyone can help Jack; but on the 'graduate' level (your label) it is 1 in 50,000 including 200 million 'alien walk in aspects'.

Jack wrote:
If you feel answering these questions may violate the free will of those who have not asked them, im more then happy to accept a response via pm.

Thanks in advance,

With love and respect,

Jack

Nice video and comprehensive on all the major streamlines. I would recommend it. It also has many pioneers of the 'paradigm changers' in them (as the 'graduates').

AA

Jonah wrote:
Abraxas,

Can you explain a "fusion flash"? Have you ever personally known someone who has accomplished this... Is it possible to attain? Can you explain the science of it?

(I hear it is quiet painful....)
thank you for your response, j

Hi Jonah!

A fusion flash in physical terms is the nucleosynthetic transmutation of elements, say the proton-proton chain in the sun converting Hydrogen into Helium in:
2H->H2+positrons+neutrino
H2+H->He3
He3+H->He4+positron+neutrino
He3+He3->He4+2H
This is accompanied by the emission of energy as sunlight, gamma radiation and Kinetic Energy (of say the neutrinos).

Then in metaphysical-personal terms, the hydrogen-helium transmutation is replaced by an energy induction of EMMR not measurable by the EMR detectors.
This is because the EMR is produced by the acceleration of Coulombic-Electric charges, which are ALWAYS coupled to inertial mass.
Iow, electric charges do not exist in the absence of mass.
But the EMMR=ElectroMagneticMonopolar Radiation; does exist independent of inertia/mass and so can be used to model MagnetoCharges (so defining the word SPIRIT in physical tyerms).

The EMMR is generated by the acceleration of magnetic charges and where the magnetic charge is defined in the inversion of the string/membrane energy in the principle of modular duality in more technical terms.
The EMMR so becomes the higherD equivalent for the lowerD EMR.

AA

Phtha wrote:
This is a great post dear Sirebard, thanks! A lot of this I have come to realize myself from fasting and experimenting with various types of diets... although I never thought to consider that many of these 'food consciousnesses' might be originating from some far away source..

Do bananas come from Venus?

Not to my knowledge Phtah. I thought they come from Southern America, in crates, often accompanied by Tarantulas.

Phtha wrote:
Can you list some of the more popular fruits and veggies... and their origins?

Here I think a website might be more appropriate. As said the vegies and fruits are Gaian BUT have ET intelligences associated with thir terrestraial physicality and origins.

Phtha wrote:
I also found your posts about animals very interesting. Being a long time cat owner myself I couldn't help but notice in Avatar that the race from pandora was based off of Felinaes.

The Feline archetype is very potent, as it allows galactic synchronisation between Anrdromeda (the Lioness) with Perseus/Milky Way (the Lion of Judah).

Phtha wrote:
Where are mice from? They way lab rats are treated... The must have a real beef to pick with us. As well as all those other 'farmed' animals

Yes I agree with you 100%. The most 'karmic' abuse of the Gaian animals are the laboratory 'experiments' on monkeys, dogs, cats and the rodents.
There is today no longer any scientific necessity for such 'experiments' or the hunting of animals for their pelts (seals, minks, ferrets etc); as the science has the utility for comparative substituing materials.

Where do the rodents come from?
When the dinosaurs became extinct in the Mesozoic era; the rodents of the Cretaceous period (so 100 million years ago) became the root survivors in the hybridisation of the 'furred reptilians" (Pecylosaurs or Paramammals).
Then in the next era of the Cenozoic, the mammals grew into their prehistoric sizes; many of the rodents however remaining relatively small to fill the niches of the environment.
Rodents, like crocodiles (from archosaurs predating the dinosaurs) and sharks so are the 'great survivors' of climactic catastrophies.

Rodents fundamentally represent the reptilian-mammalian hybridisation and so are human ancestors.

AA

Initiate wrote:
Propagation of the Dragonian Race via the seductive induction of the humanoid lifeforms on the conquered planet New Earth, now renamed DRAGONIAEARTH=SERPENTlNA=121=Q5.

On the face of it do we really want to be a conquered race after Gaia ascends? Are we or have we been seduced? It sounds like earth is being set up as a Sink (Black Hole) to swallow the rest of the solar system.

The fact is Humanity should take it's lead directly from the Creator. No Go betweens or fantasy stories that fit the Logos. Just because it fits doesn't mean it is reality. We choose our reality or we have it chosen for us.

Regards,
Initiate.

You do not understand Initiate.

Human+Dragon=StarHuman as the New Cosmic Man, realised from the Old Cosmic Man (Vitruvius aka Purusha aka Adam Kadmon aka You).

AA

Passenger wrote:
Greetings Abraxas,

This is some thread you have here... i feel that i have journeyed
through all of the dimensions at once as i read the 42 pages and
it is still going strong. Some rough bits there earlier on with
the Dragon Slayers but balance has been restored - mirror mirror
on the wall... gives a whole new perspective of the verses -
'judge not lest you be judged'. There is magic here.

66=THUBAN=FREEDOM=THE MAGIC=...indeed passenger.

Passenger wrote:
You mention that the 4th dimension will inherit the 3rd dimension.
Or at least all that is ready for ascension/harvest.
Is 4D not just a mental/astral plain full of assorted beings with
a lot of baggage/issues and like to play games with entities on
the 3D plain. Is this also not where the Magi go to do the same.

Yes this is correct, the 4D AT PRESENT is the 'astral plane'. When the 4D is rendered 5D however, then this 'astral plane' is reconfigured as stated by many many 'New Agers' (Edgar Cayce and Sheldon Nile for one).

Passenger wrote:
If so then how will this 3D+4D=New World co-exist with the present
and quite often insane group from the current 4D occupants?
It will take some time to get used to the form and the formless
in a natural co-existence... assuming i have any of this correct
at all.

As I have said many times before by now; the 3D is the Core for the 4D, like the kernel of a peach.
Now only the hard kernel exists, THEN this kernel will have a softer envelope. They will coexist, the 4D being however relatively 'invisible' for the ones not able to 'tune into in self-resonance'.

Passenger wrote:
BTW - i have been seeing a swiss cheese reality for some time now.
With - 'so it seems' - different parts of my vision in different
realities of completely different matter. Some parts fade in and out
and sometimes other parts become malleable or like liquid. Happens
more and more often now.

There you are you are preparing yourself for the 3D-4D interaction on the collective scale through your selfinteraction on the individual scale.

Passenger wrote:
Which brings me to another question... if the gates are already open
then are there already some ascended 'StarHumans' in the New World ?
Acting as the ground crew for the oncoming 4D newbies. The greeting
party as it were.

No stargates are as yet open on the earth and out to a distance of 2 million kilometers. The sun's stargates HAVE OPENED, as you can see by the photographic evidence posted on this forum and elsewhere.

Passenger wrote:
Thanks for the inspiration you have given me to better understand
my understanding.

-P

You seem to be doing very well indeed passenger.

AA

Malletzky wrote:

If I may reply to you in the matter of the red marked text above: and please consider that this is only how I understand this:

I often use a simple analogy when I try to explain the issue with 'many in one, and one in many', or as I state in my signature ...'and we are all one as I am one'. How is it that we are individually paired/duobled...while at the same time still part of the whole?

You just taka a piece of paper, torn it in two halves and then torn the one half in many small pieces apart...now you're seing 'MANY' small pieces that 'descent' from 'ONE'...These pcs contain the same energy and material patterns, they are one and the same with the previous, still in ONE, piece of paper.

What do you get here? You get the individual (small piece of paper) that is 'ONE' in consistence with the previous big piece of paper that used to consist of infinite 'MANY' pieces of paper, but before torning it apart.

This is also how I understand the saying that we were created in the image of God, as it means the same. The small pieces of papers are us and we're MANY, and we all descent from the ONE.

Following is an excerpt from Gio's Thread about Dan Brown's Lost Symbol:

Our physical bodies have evolved over the ages,
but it is our minds that were created in the image of God...

We are creator's, and yet we naively play the role of 'the created.'

We see ourselves as helpless sheep bufferted around by the God who made us. We kneel like frightened children, begging for help, for forgiveness, for good luck...

once we realize that we are truly created in the Creator's image, we will start to understand, we, too, must be Creators.

When we understand this fact,
the doors will burst wide open for human potential...

I hope this analogy helps you to understand your real YOU!

Your excellent reply bears repeating malletzky; thank you.

AA

SABINA wrote:
Dear Abraxasinas,
one month ago you started the thread ThubanQ&A.today there are already 42
pages.
sometimes I was laughing sometimes crying by reading through the postings.
It was "quote" a roll a coaster for some readers.
But some of us if we are honest have had at least an "Aha experience" iow an inspiration of inner knowledge even a hint to enlightment.
For myself it was sometimes a trigger to remember.........
It is about towake up our inner knowledge
which we forgot
this is the real "red thread" which runs through the Thuban story
that`s why I want to Thank you
for all your efforts work time and wise words which you share with us.
that`s why I dont care if it is sifi a space opera gnostic with science etc.
I like the ThubanQ&A

Thank you sweet Sabina, Rider of the Dragon!

Your comment here describes the Thuban agenda in a nutshell:

"It is about to wake up our inner knowledge which we forgot
this is the real "red thread" which runs through the Thuban story"

AA

halebox wrote:
I think all of our collective heads are spinning in a good way. This thread made me use parts of my brain that I dont usually use. It made me rethink so many different things. It made me not think of everything so black and white.
Thank you Council of Thuban and Abrax for this information.

You are welcome halebox and it is pleasing to know, that some readers and forum participators indeed understand the Thuban agenda in its utility for the individual.

AA

whitefluffy wrote:
ear abraxasinas,

i see you live in good ol aus.
The native inhabitants of this continent maintain they have always been here. i believe them. No, out of africa theory, arrogant Westerners! Having lived & worked many years with indigenous groups in SA i.e. Pitjantjatjara, Adnyamathanha, i am interested to know your thoughts.
i know they all have seven sisters dreaming stories; pleaides figures large as does the rainbow serpent. Your thoughts on this?

The Seven Sisters are a very potent universal archetype, as they represent the basic seven principles (with antiprinciples), which allowed the physical creation of the universe from its metaphysical archetypes. (see other posts for details).
Baiame, the Rainbow Serpent of the Dreamtime is a forerunner for the biblical archetype of Noah's Rainbow Covenant with God in Genesis.9.13.
So you can see that the worldwide creation archetypes derived from that of the Australian aboriginee.

Even scientifically, the discovery of Mungo Man (and Mungo Woman) near near Lake Mungo near Broken Hill and dated to so 60,000 years ago, has shown that the ancestors of Mungo Man could not have come from Africa, as the remains did not conform to any Homo Erectus bones for the last 200,000 years ors o (Mitochondrial Eve and Out-Of-Africa) hypothesis. Furthermore the DNA of Mungo Man is now extinct, and being different from the Out-Of-Africa DNA, so scientifically 'disproves' Mungo Man's migration from Africa beginning 200,000 years ago.

It so is anthropological consensus (away from scientific (funding-tenure) politics), that the ancestors of Mungo Man must be a multiregional Homo Erectus type on a par with say Peking Man of so 850,000 years ago. It is believed, that 'rats' crossed the Indonesian archipelago 2 million years ago and so multiple migrations of the later Homo Erectus types becomes feasible. The 'Hobbit' or Homo Floresiensis so also becomes a now extinct form of the multiregional Homo Erectus to Homo Sapiens transition.

whitefluffy wrote:
There is something particularly ancient about, well, all of Australia, but in my own experience, SA and Flinders Ranges in particular; Wilpena Pound, Chambers Gorge, do you know of these places?
one can feel it whispering.

I agree with you. Uluru, aka Ayers Rock is THE Polar Beacon for the 'spiritual' communication between Gaia and the Cosmic Center for the Southern Hemisphere.
The Egyptian Pyramid-Sphinx complex is the Northern counterpart.

AA

Initiate wrote:
Hi Abrax ,

Don't get me wrong. I get that. what I don't get is the need to be seduced and conquered. If this is truely mans destiny then we should not need to be seduced and conquered. This sounds like the Borg from star trek. What is the destiny of the white drogon. I have read the book "The White Drogon" by Anne McAffrey (not sure of spelling) but what is the destiny of the undragonised Human?

Dear Initiate!

Should you read the part, which you commented on, of the essay again, then you will see there, that it is stated, that all 'nondragonised' humans are to be treated like 'White Dragon Children'.

Also, can you not fathom that the SEDUCTION of a Man (or a Woman) by another 'courtier' can be a highly desirable manouver?

We Thuban males LOVE to be SEDUCED by our sexual desirees. We Thubans LOVE to be conquered in such games.

There is more to words, than a stereoptypical interpretation of the semantics.

AA

Phtha wrote:
LOL

well I think it was Manly P Hall that mentioned Bananas oringinating from Venus. I suppose he was talking about the banananess of bananas.

Speaking of Felinaes/Felidae. I remember reading somewhere that the Egyptians thought that cats with 3 colours held special properties. Can you add anything to that? These questions are quite o/t compared to the main theme of things I suppose, so feel free to ignore.

Actually, this is the Thuban perspective on the Gaia-ET connection and hybridisation: the BANANANESS relating to Banana Consciousness.
All Venusian lifeforms are higherD. If you travel to Venus in a rocket, you will find an atmosphere of sulphuric acid and carbon dioxide, not very hospitable to Gaian biochemical lifeforms.

The three colours mean unification: Red-Green-Blue is a primary colour triplet; Cyan-Magenta-Yello is a secondary and Orange-Turquoise-Indigo and Lime-Aquamarine-Purple are tertiary.

AA

Initiate wrote:
I have read that part dear abrax.

How do you treat your white dragon children? I want to know more please. Hence the reason for the question. Please don't take these questions as an attack. They are just exploratory

How do Dragons treat their 'White Dragon Children'?
- Like newborn babies, totally dependent on their parental and like carers; unable to know in comparative relativism, who they are, where they are and what they are doing.

AA

Phtha wrote:
Yah I realize that... but has Venus always been only higherD or did it support life in the 3rd before?
This reminds me of a question I asked earlier. I have been taken very lucid to Venus a few times by a golden ball or light which you mentioned was my merkaba... which makes sense. The discourse with my merkaba always happens from a 3rd person perspective. I see it in front of me and it 'asks' me questions such as "do you want to stay here or go back to Earth now?" ect... is this usual to have a 3rd party convo with ones own merkaba?
I'm hoping to do this again soon and see if I can recognize it as my own chariot during dreamtime.

No phtah, Venus, in its 3D history never allowed any 3D lifeforms, except the chemical and elemental forms indicated.

But because of its proximity to the Sun, the higherD lifeforms of Venus are very rich and engaging.
Think of a solar flare as an intelligent plasmic energy form, which in 3D appears banal and easily explained, but in consciousness representing a higherD sentience, say as an 'elemental Fire Salamander'.

So the many 'accounts' of Venusians is definitely valid, as the ET intelligences would 'incarnate' on Venus much more often, than on Earth or Mars, due to the Sun's 'Stargate'=Black Hole-White Hole dyad being the NATURAL entry point into the local starsystem.

Your one-to-one relationship with your merkabah reads very harmonious indeed and bespeaks of your Thuban/Dragon resonances.

AA