Introspection

Neo2012 Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:25 pm

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Before I answer your last post...regarding Rev. - I'll address your question!

Neo2012 Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:25 pm

dydimos wrote:Dydimos wrote:

So very profound Neo, so deep and penetrating. Define the Spirit if you can. Not in platitudes, and generalities, but in something meaningful, something that can be tested, experimentally, even if the technology requires finetuned equipment.

Come on show us how your Grand Philosophies and Wisdoms translate into the real world."

Tonyblue

Tell me Tony? Does darkness exists? How does science test and measure Darkness? How doe it translates into the real world if it cannot be measured by experiment and science?

How is that we are able to measure light but not darkness?

Oh but we have an answer for that one don't we?? Oh yes! Oh darkness is simply the absence of light! Bingo! Applause!!

But, hold on now, this unquantifiable substance you speak of, the spark of life, that force that keeps the cells alive...how can science test it? How can it be measured? What sort of experiments could we do to proof or disprove such thing?

Can we not measure death the same as we measure light?

Signs of death or strong indications that a person is no longer alive are:

Ceasing of breathing

Cessation of metabolism

No pulse

Pallor mortis, paleness that happens in the 15–120 minutes after death

Livor mortis, a settling of the blood in the lower (dependent) portion of the body

Algor mortis, the reduction in body temperature following death. This is generally a steady decline until matching ambient temperature.

Rigor mortis, the limbs of the corpse become stiff (Latin rigor) and difficult to move or manipulate.

Decomposition, the reduction into simpler forms of matter, accompanied by a strong, unpleasant odor.

So, how do we measure the -Spark of Life-? With what fine tuned equipment? -

We measure it with the same fine tuned equiptment which we measure darkness!

Wait? You mean to tell me that science have yet to invite a some sophisticated fine tuned equipment to measure darkness?

I suppose, If darkness cannot be measured it must mean that it doesn't exist?

Hence, the same way darkness exists and its come to be known as the absence of Light, so does the spark of life exist as the absence of death.

And, that my friend, is how this force of life translates into the real world!

Oh yeah, darkness is visible, the force of life is not. Is that the argument now? -

If a substance is invisible therefore cannot exist? --

You are right! Only the activity and signs of life can be observed!

Such is the reasoon man have chosen skepticism, and in order to refute the idea of a one true God or creator, because after all, if there where such a God or creator then one would have to be subject to his authority. Right? - And that is too much for our Ego to accept! After all, we are conscious being able to discern for ourselves right from wrong, we don't need a God to tell us what is right and what's wrong or what we should be doing or not doing! Right??? -

Cult-Dogmas you call it? - Ignorance you say? - Absolutely!

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Neo2012 Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:11 pm

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To Alexandria - The True Meaning of Rev. 16:13

Neo2012 Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:11 pm

Alexandria,

First of all, the Bible isn’t just one book entitled Revelations! The Bible is a compilation of Holly Books, each book leading to a happy climax!

Genesis being the first of the books sets out the first divine prophecy that would be followed by a series of divine prophecies leading to revelations!

Hence, before you can fully grasp the meanings of Revelations vivid signs, or symbols you first need to read all the books otherwise you will miss the meaning of its message!

Its like going to see Harry Potter’s Sleepy Hollow without ever watching chapters one through five or reading the books and trying to make sense of what it is you are now seeing! You have no idea of the significance of the characters or the meaning to the symbols being used!

Revelations adds testimony to many other Bible prophecies, showing that God purposes to create a “new heavens and a new earth.” (Isaiah 65:17; 66:22; 2 Peter 3:13; Rev. 21:1-5)

Notice, how you are omitting God’s purpose for a NEW EARTH and only speak of heaven!

This goes to show me that you really don’t full understand God’s purpose!

Moises (prophet), Isaiah (prophet), Ezekiel (prophet), Jesus (prophet) and others up to and leading to the revelations to John (prophet) all share a common theme.

The author of the Bible is described as God and he has clearly stated his purpose throughout every book.

In short our conclusions regarding Revelations must harmonize with the other books of Bible and be in harmony with other divine prophecies foretold otherwise we are holding God to be a liar and a liar he is not!

“UNCLEAN INSPIRED EXPRESSIONS”

At Revelation 16:13 - 16 we read: “And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogscome out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. . . . And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.”—Rev. 16:13-16.

In the Law covenant God made with Israel, he classified frogs as unclean animals. The use of frogs here would indicate that the inspired expressions are something unclean in God’s sight. Being inspired by demons, it is certain they are directly against God and detrimental to those who follow such expressions. The “inspired expressions” do not originate with men. So, whoever on earth are the human mouthpieces, they are not speaking altogether of themselves but as inspired by the adversary of God, the Devil, the prince of the demons.
Frogs make a croaking noise. They come out of the mouth of three creatures, and so must symbolize official proclamations, announcements, predictions or propaganda, especially to influence kings or rulers of this world. The froglike inspired expression out of the mouth of the symbolic dragon, who is Satan the Devil (Rev. 12:9), must say that God is not the Sovereign of the universe and that his rightful Messianic kingdom over earth is not to be recognized or surrendered to.

Satan is the one who challenged God in the beginning, and right down to the war at Armageddon he makes efforts more and more desperate as the end nears, in an attempt to prove his assertion.

So this frog would say also that preaching must therefore stopped, and if anyone refuse to stop preaching God’s kingdom by Christ, we must go to war against them.

The “wild beast” out of the sea is the Dragon’s visible political organization for governing mankind.

In Daniel’s vision of four of the world powers, represented as beasts, he recounts: “I happened to be beholding in my visions during the night, and, see there! the four winds of the heavens were stirring up the vast sea. And four huge beasts were coming up out of the sea, each one being different from the others.” (Dan. 7:2, 3)

So Satan the Devil by means of his demons, represented by the four winds, was stirring up the sea of mankind alienated from God to great turbulence, forming his political organization from this sea of restless people who rely upon what the politicians say to guide them.

Now, the “wild beast” is loyal to the Dragon, to whom it is indebted for its political power, throne and great authority. It worships the Dragon. So the inspired propagandistic expression out of the wild beast’s mouth backs up what the Dragon says. It argues for the sovereignty of the various national groups and tells them to conspire against God and his Anointed One or Messiah and to break all bands, restrictions and limitations that these would impose on them. (Ps. 2:1-10)

The third frog came out of the mouth of the “false prophet.” Who is this “false prophet”? He is a new figure introduced in this chapter of Revelation. But he is new in name only and is used in Revelation as a separate figure because of the prominent part he plays in world affairs and the way he performs with great influence before the rest of the political governments represented by the beast.

He is really the other “wild beast” that ascended out of the earth and that had two lamblike horns. It is no one else than the dual world power of Britain and America who cooperate economically, politically and militarily, in English, and largely on the Protestant side of religion.

But since Revelation 13:11 says that this two-horned beast speaks as the Dragon does in blasphemies of God and his heavenly residence, and since it makes the “image of the wild beast” speak, the two-horned beast is here cast in the role of a prophet, not for God, of course.

So it is a “false prophet.” As it is the seventh head of the seven-headed “wild beast” out of the sea, it assumes to speak nowadays for the entire “wild beast.”
From its position of economic, political and military strength, the two-horned beast or “false prophet” speaks very impressively, for it predominates today as the Seventh World Power. This Seventh World Power has always appeared lamblike in its pretentious, for it claims always to fight on the side of liberty and freedom. It claims never to fight in an aggressive, but only in a defensive, protective war.

At the same time it speaks like the Dragon who is the great deceiver and it roars out with a fear-inspiring voice that has cowed smaller nations into subjection so that it could pursue its commercial, selfish exploitations in many countries of the earth.

This political “false prophet” system, speaking like the Dragon, also speaks against God’s kingdom but in favor of human sovereignty of the earth and now advocates self-determination of the peoples and an international alliance. First it recommended the League of Nations and now backs the United Nations, to keep a nuclear-powered world from destroying itself in world war.

“SIGNS” PERFORMED

These demon-inspired expressions from the three sources “perform signs.” This is in order that they may clothe themselves with authority and impressiveness before the people. At times they call for action on the part of the Dragon, the “wild beast” and the “false prophet” to enforce what the inspired expressions say. The Devil backs up these expressions and maneuvers the “wild beast” in holding peoples under subjugation. And as for the two-horned beast, or “false prophet,” it appears to “make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.” (Rev. 13:13) The Seventh World Power has used its might to bring about its will, with the backing of the clergy of Christendom. This makes the inspired expressions seem to be coming true and having the god of this world backing them up.

No matter how much these expressions may croak on the subject of international peace, they are really for war, war against God the Almighty and his Messiah. Therefore, their political promises and arrangements are not sidestepping Armageddon but steering the nations directly into it. John says that the inspired expressions go forth to the worldly rulers, who today possess mass-killing weapons, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.

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Didymos Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:48 pm

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Re: Introspection

Didymos Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:48 pm

Three Wisdoms for the Magnificent One; last seen attempting to teach philosophy at the Place of Great Learning, the Library at Alexandria, where the Elders of the Wisdomkeepers and the scribes often gather to exchange and share their new discoveries!

1.On your general philosophical synthesis of the 'Witnesses of the Yaldebaoth' or whichever of the usurper 'creators' you may choose to 'lend your ears' to as some Roman Senator of the Senate of the mimicators - oh poor Alexandria, so lovely and desirable, immersed in a polluted sanctuary, waiting for deliverance; BEWARE of the 'fake' prophets; there are many of those who cross your paths:

Hamlet:
Swear by my sword
Never to speak of this that you have heard.

Ghost:
[Beneath] Swear by his sword.

Hamlet:
Well said, old mole, canst work i' th' earth so fast?
A worthy pioner! Once more remove, good friends.

Horatio:
O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!

Hamlet:
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Hamlet Act 1, scene 5, 159–167

More things oh magnificent Neo; not less!
The intellectual coward and lazy thinker (hmm) of course often hides behind the label of: "'All is illusions!', so I dont have to worry about that" - when heshe is not challenged to actually learn something about the things under heaven and on earth.

2. On your general 'interpretations' (LOL) of the 'scriptures' as the 'Word of God':

Daniel 12 (King James Version)

¹And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
²And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
³And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
⁴But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
⁵Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
⁶And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
⁷And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
⁸And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
⁹And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
¹⁰Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand
¹¹And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
¹²Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
¹³But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

So oh magnificent Neo, who has the ear of the 'god of wisdom about the illusions'. the 'Father of all Lies'; what does that mean?
Are those numbers all the same as 1+1=6? There are indeed a+b=c; but then a little algebra is required to understand the setup of the scribes of the 'Word of God' the real God, not the usurper of your childish and immature preponderances.

3. On Death and whatever scripture or 'wisdom saying' of Zen phrases (say Kans) you may find and quote:

These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.
(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
(2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

Now here is true wisdom; reality, oh magnificent Neo of the multitudinous ignorances about the true self as the image of God. And it is not that all around you is illusion and a matrix of insignificance; environs which exist beyond your concerns and superfluous in their essences.
Or as the prophet of the times of the now has said:

Isaiah 38:18
For the grave cannot praise you, death cannot sing your praise; those who go down to the pit cannot hope for your faithfulness.

In your limited understanding of the esoteric interpretations of these encodings; you can of course follow the supernatural myths about Adam and Eve and the Dinosaur poop in Noah's ark and render it physical, oh you penetrating reader and composer of the 'secrets of the almighty'.

Tonyblue

Neo2012 Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:17 pm

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To Alexandria Re: Rev. 22:5 (as promised)

Neo2012 Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:17 pm

To Tony: You can kill that noise girlfriend, anyone can copy and paste bible text all day long, in the end you must be able to understand the words and comprehend its meanings! For the word of God does not lend itself to "intepretation" rather as stated before its a series of holly books from genesis to revelation, and the best way to "understand" its message, or "encode" its meanings is by allowing "scriptures to interpret scriptures"...this offers the Authors point of view, not the readers! That's right, God speaks for himself, he is his own interpreter, we don't need to interpret anything! Its all there for us, to cross-reference and find the answers we seek! If you only copy and paste to proof your point of view, what is it that you are understanding? Nothing! We must view its context, cross-reference the books, and let the Bible speak for it self!

To Alexandria Re: Rev. 22:5 (as promised)

"There will be no more light. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the LORD GOD will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever." REVELATION 22:5

“There will be no more light”? –

This is making reference to the light of the current system of things. Those on earth will now be guided, but not by earthly light, meaning its current political systems that's shining its harmful lights upon earth at this very moment, rather, now, they will be guided by this heavenly city! "New Heaven" for a "New Earth"

“They will not need the light of a lamp”? –

In the ancient tabernacle and temple at Jerusalem there were oil-burning lamps in the Holy compartment, but God’s Shekinah light was miraculously there in the Most Holy to provide light.

Therefore Jesus spoke again to them, saying: “I am the light of the world. He that follows me will by no means walk in darkness, but will possess the light of life.” – John 8:12

Indeed, they would have reached salvation, therefore no longer needing the light of a lamp!

“Or the light of the sun”? –

An earthly city needs light by means of the sun in the daytime and either the moon or some artificial light at night. But this is making reference to the “New Jerusalem” which is a heavenly city. In heaven there is never any need for such luminaries, not even the sun or moon.

“for the LORD GOD will give them light”

The lights of this heavenly city is God himself and its lamp being the Lamb.

This fulfilling the prophecy writen in Psalm 48:1-3:

"God is great and much to be praised. In the city of our God, [in] his holy mountain. Pretty for loftiness, the exultation of the whole earth,
Is Mount Zion on the remote sides of the north, The town of the grand King. In her dwelling towers God himself has become known as a secure height."

Indeed, The New Jerusalem, together with Christ on his throne is the symbolic city, revealed to John, and constitutes the “new heavens” that rule over the “new earth,” which its human society on earth.

God's purposes has never been to physically destroy the Earth, rather to destroy the wicked allowing the meek to possess the earth in everlasting life.

Psalm 104:5 - "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not removed be removed for ever."

Psalm 37:11 - "But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundace of peace"

Luke 23:43 - "And he [Jesus] said to him: 'Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise'"

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Notice: He didn't say, you will be with me in Heaven? Rather, he said Paradise!

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Yes! Restoration of Paradise to mankind is assured, is guaranteed! This is no thought to be scoffed at by fanatical believers in the theory of evolution or other unbelievers. Even they themselves will have to admit that something needs to be done before very long if the human family is to survive to the end of the twenty-first century of our Common Era. All such doubters and disbelievers will have to agree that this earth needs to undergo a transformation to a Paradise state if what they may call “the human species” is to enjoy existence much longer.

Hence, LOOK AT ALL THE EFFORT GOING INTO A "GREEN PLANET"!

The truth is, that If it were left to mankind itself, even in this scientific, nuclear, space age, to bring this about, the case would be hopeless.

Mankind has already gone too far in polluting and ruining his natural environment, and no reversal of the trend is possible, even with the world organization of the United Nations for international cooperation. However, the sorely needed restoration of Paradise to our earth does not rest with deteriorating mankind and disintegrating human society. The guarantee of this lifesaving transformation comes from a loving Creator, God!

This is the only alternative. Man’s rule of the earth cannot do it! People’s rule (democracy) cannot do it! Wealthy persons’ rule (plutocracy) cannot do it! Technical experts’ rule (technocracy) cannot do it! God’s rule (Theocracy) can do it!

Theocracy will not be defeated in its purpose toward mankind and mankind’s earthly residence. Let none of us be fooled any longer by the false philosophies of self-conceited men, but let us all face the fact: Mankind started out under Theocracy! Mankind, at its perfect beginning in Paradise with an unsubdued earthly globe outside, was not absolute ruler of all that it surveyed. Mankind had a ruler higher than whom there is no one. That ruler was mankind’s Creator, God, the Maker of heaven and earth and the Planter of Paradise. He is The Theocrat. From the start he was mankind’s Theocratic Ruler. He rightly laid down the rule for mankind’s living in the Paradise of Pleasure. He set before mankind its tasks. The Theocratic Ruler had a beautiful purpose concerning mankind’s realm. the earth. This purpose was conceived within his own Self. It was his moving idea during the six creative days in which he was making the earth ready for being inhabited by mankind under just the right and perfectly balanced conditions. It is set out in the thought that he expressed, of which we read:

“And God got to see that it was good. And God went on to say: ‘Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.’ And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them.”—Genesis 1:25-27. 2thumbs

God is unchangeable in his expressed purpose. He is undefeatable in his declared and recorded purpose. When he declared that it was his will for man to have in subjection “all the earth,” he meant for that to be fulfilled without fail.

He foresaw the Garden of Eden (on soil already subdued) extended all around and over this earthly ball, a delightful thing to look at from the heavens and a praise to the Creator who had made man in his image and according to his likeness.

In spite of all that the Great Theocrat has permitted to take place on earth for the past almost six thousand years of human existence, that is still his purpose, his grand objective.

This fact should be encouraging to all of us who are sickened at heart at seeing this earth, which has such wonderful possibilities, being ruined by selfish men, even being stained with human blood violently shed, aye, even more than this, being threatened with total depopulation by international nuclear and chemical warfare.

jedi

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Neo2012 Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:35 am

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The Girl who shocked the world in 5 minutes...

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Didymos Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:41 am

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Re: Introspection

Didymos Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:41 am

Excellent Contribution and Sharing Neo.
Thank You!

Dragon Wisdom spoken by the Young Awakened Ones - and all without dogmatic underpinnings.

Tonyblue

Lola Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:11 pm

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For Didymos...

Lola Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:11 pm

Dear Sweet Didymos...

You should enjoy the intense energy of today. The mud is finally beginning to clear away.

I wish I could expose the truth in every issue but too many gremlins may be unearthed.

Connect with nature today and spend some time with animals if you can. Take deep breaths in fresh outdoor air and enjoy a long walk somewhere special with a close friend.

And don't worry about me...I am not "taken" by false prophets nor am I "lost" in dogmatic truths...

Confused? No...Angry...Yes...

Waiting for Deliverance? Aren't you as well?

Be well...

cosmicnight13 Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:23 pm

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Re: Introspection

cosmicnight13 Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:23 pm

yes, dear, a smoothy day indeed

that's the way, this a bit outwiggling bavarian wishes to be treated:::applause from the lower ranks of den's invisible Di vis ions…lol

Did u notice, that oUR nice self-prescribed TanDem-LeAdErDu-oOh, bribed by their followers, mirror each other in their InCapaBiLLy{g}–TIES??

Instead of working on their disavowed parts they indulge in Timelines…lol
PSychick / physickal CONVOLUSION in warp time mirroring an OUTstanding ARRO gans
that searches it's like…
inlak'ech night13

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2013Mist-Bug-exSpire

cosmicnight13 Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:09 am

In La'kech

this didn't come thru anymore…on my 'TzlolKIN'-blogg:
it's also a nice lesson for our self-declarated Lieder{lich}Ship!
And i love to do it here on your thread, FUman•d•a•...

They intruded me, during sleep, on the astral, which seems topee their preferred MAIN doMAIN!

so i do my duty and BAN THE FALSENESS¨¨¨¨!!!!

……
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night143 (sat.day…21:52:11{1.8.11}) : Your comment is awaiting moderation

+Cosmic Night mentioned Eagles in the last line of his latest comment.
…
+this is what i said:

eagels-Emanation-Mindtrap-lure, lure – betrayal– spells also “Law”…:

Darkness created many “laws” by which to give the appearance of order in Its “creation”. Laws of motion, gravity, inertia, re-action and others were put into place. These so-called “natural laws”, rules, protocols and principles are necessary for the appearance of order and workings in the Virtual Reality. Through these artificial laws, predictability and order are achieved. All of these artificial laws are part of the trap of the Virtual Reality. They are restrictions put into play by Darkness.

These “natural laws” are issues of

RANK. Rank is based on privilege, which is the found AT ion of 12/ 60- society and ptw (powers that were)
{we had the romanEmpireas sourcebefore!}

Fred Nietzsche reminds US:

just like the romans and etruskian , who cut their heaven with starry mathematical lines into a TEMPLUM, as a FEaNCEy- strictly confining and slicing space, into which they banned a god…
same has every people aBove themselves, a meticulously structured and sliced concept…, perceptionheaven, and from then on their TRUTH insists in postulating, that any definition of god, is only valueable in it’s corresponding (previously¨cut) sphere.

as i intuit, Claire de Moulin {aka tmq}, which name is ‘ i’m sure not authentic!, …short ‘moule’

not ever willing to understand, coz it’s not in her HIDDEN AgenDA,……

, so i have to, I’M going to arrive at some kinky fields, which is a speciality of DragONqueens, and of SenseSpores, respectively.

What do we have here:
a cozy, rozy open ‘moule’,
shimmering reddish in in her dew

Legs wide open for her CUBE she says………of truth, she adds, the juice…sweet drippin’ in colourful tzolkin NUMBers and CODEs… from her haunch.

is this truth: she is lying, she is hiding costly lifestywhipping jealously thru the CUBE (of truth, she insists on her deadly ways…)

oh my, what a fri…ed chicken, instead of 'talking to the plants'
she reads "Gala" : bribing ladiDi's and princesHenrisWilliams around kin's AU RA's –– not enough places them –fatly– in to our sacred cube……… what a FRAUD.

so its slymy inside her: 'gate2013 what afuck!) stinking odours of rotten residues from past orgies with her kind, billow ing thru our sacred space oh…p'ay's

clever she derives the love of all the kin here to Ach!medinejhad the slaughterer of iranian women, HER kin!!
and seemigly our TMQcon, rozzy, slimy grey, is a part of them.––

love– that we bereft ourselves thru the millenia – blinded by the invisible powers, that reigned––love, we incessantly worked for, to find it back………

that we so needingly and arduous attain, against all odds,so in NEED for OURselves to sample…
against the whole 12/60-society –––wherin 'moule' dwells : in a comfortNest

and with tempting baits she blinds US kin……

so her con h's become dry , the output faulty
…still she pre TEnNds it to be valid
…scorched poetry……

her moule moules crap – on the cube careening…
" She has No conscience" – it's donKEY rule
sweet love to U and All

and moule the fat the fate to fall

inlake'ch reimar

…we incessantly worked on, to find it back !!
“Always remember, to have The Last Dance, with Your Shadow” ~ Sus√◊and¿
"lol"

Lola Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:42 pm

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The Hard Truth...For My Friend Xeia...You Were Right...I am Sorry My Love...

Lola Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:42 pm

It was roughly 11:30 pm on Saturday night when I received a phone call from my daughter. "Xeia needs to talk to you, she has sent you a message on Facebook...didn’t you get it?" I did get it but I haven’t looked at it, I responded...

Ahh...The beauty of technology...I have one of those phones that sends everything to me...emails, Facebook messages, etc...

At the time of my daughter’s phone call I was returning from Marco Island, where I had gone with my cousin to photograph the wildlife and chase the sunset...I was on State Highway 951...on my way to Big Cypress National Preserve where I was planning to camp for the night.

You see my friends, I have come to Florida to accompany my father who is ill and needs to see the family...While he spends time talking, reconnecting and playing dominoes, I set out to nature where I feel at home...

I pulled over into a rest stop to read the message from Xeia...she knew I was upset with her because of a conversation we had on skype the night before I left town...Remember Xeia? I had asked you who you were talking to and you said, “a friend”...Why did you lie? Why didn’t you tell me you were speaking with Neo? What would be the point? And you say you did it for me! To expose him!!

And now you ask: Why am I choosing that maggot over you?

Xeia, it is certainly not that I am choosing that maggot over you. No! Not at all! I am simply angry that you lied. I don’t understand why you couldn’t just as well tell me you were speaking to him.

And now here we are...Wow what a mouthful! Certainly gives me a lot to think about!

In order for you to gain some perspective; let me tell you what I was planning to do...You will realize just how sickening this all is...

I am staying in south Florida, splitting my time between family in Coral Springs and Coral Gables...

I was planning to see “Neo”...He lives in Pompano Beach; just a short drive away...I was looking forward to meeting his son; had been to the mall and bought a gift...I had even offered to go somewhere with him and his son; the zoo perhaps...my treat...

I saw Neo, as a friend...I felt a connection to him...Perhaps it was because we challenged each other intellectually...This is rare since most men can’t understand me, or can’t keep up with me...Perhaps it was because we felt the same sense of loss...the same sense of being in a less than perfect relationship; because we are both “loved” more than we can reciprocate; because we both feel “trapped”; and unfulfilled emotionally...

For whatever reason...the connection was there...but the Xeia triangle did bother me because you are a friend Xeia and it clearly poses a conflict of interest...That he is a flirt, ok...so am I...that he is involved, ok...so am I...but that he has feelings for you?! Not ok, because you and I are friends and I do not wish to get between you and your bond with him...

Now...I have seen the conversation between you and him...Thank you for sharing...You make it emphatically clear that your feelings and ties are with Rok...Ok...I respect that...But Neo, who you say is “dick obsessed” continues to turn the conversation with you into something sexual....I saw that conversation...How he continues to offer to you his “curved” penis in all its glory...

I take offense to that because I see that you clearly choose Rok and yet he continues to disrespect and dishonor you with his tone and offerings...

And I feel bad for you Neo because I see that your feelings for Xeia are not reciprocated...

And I feel bad for me, because clearly I feel like the third wheel...

Poor Neo...You want Xeia but she doesn’t want you....I want you, but refuse to share and play second fiddle...

Where does that leave you?...with neither of us...I suppose...You stay right where you are, with your girlfriend...

Of course I feel sad...I wanted to scream to the 4 winds that I loved you! I came to Florida...I was prepared to see you...I was even prepared to go against my convictions and sense of morality to invite you into my life and into my heart...

You want us both, you say...Sorry, I can't accept that...We both arouse you in different ways...Sorry, I can’t accept that either...

Women make too many demands on you, eh? Your girlfriend wants your devotion, Xeia wants you to say to world how you feel about her and I want you to admit to me that I get to you...in ways you have yet to understand...

But my love, I retreat...

So the crab and scorpion are at odds....

Neo, acting as the typical crab...walking sideways...to and fro...between Xeia and myself can’t choose...ultimately burying his head in the sand....with explanations of his “curved” penis and so on...were you sabotaging yourself Neo? Were you hoping Xeia would “kiss and tell” in order to get you off the hook? So you wouldn’t have to see me? So that I wouldn’t make things too complicated for you? I mean, what if you fell in love with me? What if Alexandra IS a good person? What if HER feelings for me are genuine? Were you preventing yourself from getting hurt? From getting attached to me, Neo?

And what should I, the scorpion, do now...Revenge? I know where you live...Should I just show up? Confront you pregnant girlfriend! Upset her! Get you in trouble! Or worse, what if the stress of it all upsets her pregnancy! You know that I am traveling with my cousin, who happens to be a detective in Miami...what if I have your girlfriend followed to work and I confront her there?

Neo, there is no end to the EVIL I am capable off. What would you do, Mr. Passive Aggressive Little Crab With a Curved Penis?!

Would you call the police? Would you put a restraining order against me? Oh, what great enemies we could become...My pride against your pride...My ego against your ego! But remember, I am the woman...Ever been with a Scorpion, my dear crab? Ever received the sting and lived to tell about it?

Xeia is a crab too...Sensitive...passive aggressive herself...She gets “upset” when people don’t “like” her...wants universal love...wants to be in good graces with God and the Devil...

And me...well? Lets just say that murky waters suit me just fine....

Oh don’t worry, Neo...I will NOT come after you...I will NOT hurt you or intrude in your family in any way...

But I will remind you of what you said to me....

You told me you were honest, remember?
You told me you would never lie to me, remember?
You told me you weren’t a player, or a Don Juan, remember?
You told me I was the best thing to happen to you in 2010, remember?

You told me so many things...beautiful things which I chose to believe because I felt I loved you...

I will no longer make such unreasonable demands of you...You are free to discuss your “curved” penis with whomever you wish...Your choice...

I have made a choice, too...I will rip you out of my thoughts and out of my heart...I will call whatever I felt, as a temporary loss of sanity...

I will not come to see you (somehow I think this is what you wanted)...I will not make things complicated, dramatic or simply too obtuse for your liking...You may return to status quo...you peaceful life with the joyous expectation of your son...
I wish you well...no hard feelings, promise...

And Xeia, I thank you for being brutally honest with me, for you stopped me from making a huge mistake...blinders are off, I guess...No worries, Such is Life...

Tony, I know you are throwing the Bible back and forth to “mirror” Neo...but, Tony, please stop...

As if quoting the Bible...will make you seem “Intelligent”. Why do you do this? Because you love to hear yourself talk? Because you feel you have to prove something?

Please don’t use the Holy Book in a fight over EGO...
This is a Divine Book...You hurt me by doing this...This is not something to be thrown back and forth and played with....

Tony, I KNOW who you are! I think you KNOW who I am...I wish to talk with you, to tell you my secrets, but not like this...
This is illogical and irrational...clouded with novice minds incapable of handling the gremlins should they reveal themselves....

We can continue talking Neo, but you must be honest with yourself FIRST before you can be completely honest with someone else!

Right now I can understand your inhibitions, I can understand your insecurities... i can understand you need for validation, I can understand that you came into puberty very late in life and that you are a late bloomer, but, it is not too late to be a man....

because I am all woman and I can teach you about the meaning of true love. Be true to yourself, I may even like the true you. I may even share some of my fantasies with you...

The ball is in your court... you know where to find me if your man enough and have the courage to do so, remember, until this Friday... I'm only 10 minutes away!!!

I love you, Xeia....

-A

Didymos Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:07 am

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Re: Introspection

Didymos Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:07 am

Lola's Theme

Somewhere My Love!

Is Who I Am!

Someday indeed; You shall Know Me!

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Neo2012 Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:32 pm

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To Alexandria, and Xeia

Neo2012 Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:32 pm

First of all, I think you both don't know me very well, that's all and that's fine. No hard feelings? - Of course not! I am not offended by neither of you or Xeia!

Alexandria I didn't block you from FB because I hold any fears or insecurities. And, I am certainly not afraid of your Scorpio sting! I am a natural healer, a real medicine man. Stings don’t hurt me, make me sick, nor kill me!

My g/f minored in psychology in College and one of the things I love her for the most is for her mind. She understands me very well, more then you realize! And, she knows me more then you realize too!

My g/f knows everything we talk about. She has read this forum. She has read our FB interactions as well as Skype conversations. She sits next to me most of the time. And when she doesn’t, things are still accessible to her; we share the same notebook, she knows my passwords, and we keep no secrets from each other.

We are members of Swingers Club; we’ve had sex knowingly that others are watching us, openly in public places. She knows my sexual energy and she knows that I am very much an egocentric, larger then life egomaniac!

She knows you’re in Florida, and she would not mind me going and spending “ONE” evening you. She wouldn’t mind you coming over and hanging out with us. In fact, she’d love to meet you. She’d love it!

However, the thing that turns her off, and turns me off is the DRAMA, and the negativity! You may not realize it or be willing to accept this, but YOU and Xeia are two opposing energies, harmful for one another, you are each other’s toxins, and venom. Constantly poisoning one another! Competing with each other as to who’s life is going better, and who’s prettier then the other and who’s family life is nicer, or which one of you attract more man, and so on and so forth.

You are equally shallow, equally defensive, equally jealous, equally over dramatic! And you both radiate more negative energies in your life than you care to accept but you do!

I have tried to free your minds from all of that in order for the two of you to take a step up from useless vanity and conceitedness and “too much” self-importance and see the greater picture.

You want to know the truth of why I blocked you from my number or FB, is not to hide you, is to block your negative energies and drama, same as Xeia’s.

The only thing my g/f feels about all of this,
The thing she tells me the most and bothers her the most,
Is that I shouldn’t be wasting my time online with either of you.

You’ve not learned to love “unconditionally” not so much towards me, rather towards each other, and towards others.

Not once, has neither of you, simply laughed, or taken things lightly! I’ve purposely made sexual references, not because I am interested in or want something sexual with either of you, but because I wanted to see just how worth it, really worth it was going to be investing energy in a friendship with either of you!

Are you worthy people to come into my life, my kid’s life, my family life, and my g/f life? Or is life so hard on you guys that you can’t laugh at the situation when a MUTUAL male friend of yours says, “you BOTH are so hot, you make my dick so hard it feels is about to explode”.

Xeia, “Oh I love Rok” , You, “Oh Neo, but I only want you and should only want me”

Fuck you! Fuck all of you! “I love my g/f” I love a woman that allows me to say what I want to say and not feel threaten by their own insecurities! A woman that would go to a Gentleman’s Club with me on my birthday and treat me to a dozen lap dances, watch me get hard and excited having other woman’s breast all over my face and not feel threatened, and ask me,” Is that what you like, you dirty old man …you?” Then, grab me by the hand and lead me somewhere to make out and feeling me up, letting me fill her up, and end up having a climatic sexual experience between the two of us”

All this DRAMA and judgmental crap you guys have going back and forth with each other over something so miniscule as Internet conversations and out of text sexual references are both so petty in my eyes, that frankly I am bored with the both of you.

You both BORE me. You are both “equally” unattractive! You are both “equally” dull, and self-centered, and toxic.

No. I don not want to sleep with NEITHER of you. Nor do I questioned Xeia’s love for Rok, in fact, I am happy for her that she’s in love, good for her! Now, lighten the fuck up, and enjoy life!

Alexandria, yeah, go use your private detective to locate my g/f and tell her ALL the things we’ve said online and not done, come over, in fact your welcome, and don’t worry, I won’t be putting a restraining order, my g/f would take care of that for me, right after asking you if you’d care to watch her, pregnant and all, screw the brains out of me in front of you! Then, she’ll put a restraining order and say, “Stay the fuck away from my man, you psycho!” Is that about enough stings for you, Scorpion?

Seriously, you guys need to get a life! And, lighten up. Listen to the Logos! Or whatever other Dogma’s you care to put your faith in…and live a little!

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Lola Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:48 pm

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For Neo...

Lola Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:48 pm

I enjoyed our conversation...Absolutely, I would love to meet your girlfriend!!! And your son...the whole family!!! It would be fun!

As for your lifestyle?! Thanks for being honest, and I won't judge you...Nonsense, none of that! That is not me...I love you just the way you are...we all have value and we all have something to contribute...

I certainly wouldn't subscribe to your lifestyle...I am more of an Opera and fine wine kind of girl...

BUT hey, whatever floats your boat is fine with me...You are still a friend...still an important person in my life...

I will go now and find this Venetian Fountain you spoke about...Can't wait...I hope you enjoy the rest of your day and I certainly look forward to meeting you all...

Sincerely,

-M

Neo2012 Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:21 pm

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great now your speaking my language!!!!

Neo2012 Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:21 pm

3251 South Miami Avenue
Miami, Florida 33129

This is My House of Zen! I love it there, and I am sure you would love it too! Its a beautiful Historic Landmark!

And, yes of course, Coral Gables, Venetian Pool, a Natural Spring in a Natural and Gorgeous Setting...endulge, go for a swim, relax and enjoy nature's finest work!

Introspection - Page 2 247dee10

"Formed from a coral rock quarry in 1923, Venetian Pool is included in the National Register of Historic Places.

This 820,000 gallon pool is fed with cool spring water daily, and features two waterfalls, coral caves and grottos. The buildings are Venetian-style architecture, designed by Denman Fink, uncle of the founding father of Coral Gables, George Merrick."

In fact, let's go together, I'll bring the wine, something to snack and will skinny dip or not, just swim, test your swimming abilities...although I must warn you at this time of year...water is pretty freezing! Nonetheless, gorgeous!

Have fun!!!

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Lola Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:55 am

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For Neo...

Lola Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:55 am

Now you're speaking to my heart....And it is listening....as it beats for you, my love...

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Re: Introspection

Guest Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:48 am

Of course you are not offended...i mean..that "fuck you" gesture on the pic of yourself that you posted has to be a product of humorous intent and not being offended.

Great Neo see you have an "analyst" right there...your "energetic" match. Working on the faculty of arts where one of the departments is psychology gave/gives me quite an insight into their mind when they are off camera or not in the class room teaching. There are also some differences (from minor ones to gigantic ones) among those that do not just teach theory but also have regular practical experiences...meaning...working at hospitals, mental institutions, having patients in private practice... I am now speaking of professionals...at least...that is how they call themselves.
It showed that in most cases...it is them that need a lot of the help. Most of them simply wanting to understand themselves, some in more others in less desperate way...or just excusing themselves and the way they are or can be via some text book definition. Yet those who are more than just theory are in most cases more grounded than just theoreticians. Both have this "twisted" way of looking at the human like a mechanic looks at the machine of the car. Screw here, oil there....runes better already. For them everything has an explanation...if there is none...they make one up....like the names for various mental disorders...and drugs to go along with them... Yet none can measure them, none can look at them under the microscope, none is able to provide a "proof"...all they have is statistics and their own self importance. They love their statistics and various rather abstract "connotations" of the "state of mind" and other general events. So i can see why you like it.

You claim to be many things but you show none of it. I applaud your manipulation, you truly can suck some into it....getting them to respond in defense and anger...revenge even... Your ego shows others' ego. Each wanting to play each other...yet it is your game, so you more or less win in it. Love and light all the way.

You are a fake to yourself and others and yes I am sure you could show how very unbalanced and negatively charged i am, but you can't since it has to be the weight of your own humongous balls that is slowing you down. I am not sure why you do not do what you say your girl over there advised to you? Wasting time here...while you could teach children how to read, make the blind see, activate some inner earth energy points, give your girl the time of her life...and no need to stop there...i am sure that what you set your mind to....it is as good as done.... So really....why are u still here?

Your sexual grace has clearly not been appreciated here. The vomit you posted in all the private exchanges that more or less show your double face has not touched the hearts of others in a way you hoped to. You are wasting precious energies remaining here..since no one is able to see the gifts you offer and not just that...your dick also got offended. How much more do you think you have to stand from...from all of us here...

Your real life there is so much better and fulfilling yet you just...you are here with us that have none...i mean it almost brings me to tears to see you suffer the way you do.

Release Neo...release...

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**SuiGeneris** Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:52 am

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Neo:

Neo2012 wrote: YOU and Xeia are two opposing energies, harmful for one another, you are each other’s toxins, and venom. Constantly poisoning one another! Competing with each other as to who’s life is going better, and who’s prettier then the other and who’s family life is nicer, or which one of you attract more man, and so on and so forth.

What is this High School?

Listen, i can talk to lola... be honest about what i think of her, without worrying if she's gonna get offended or not... if she does, that is her problem... but i say things as they are without thinking of my "audience" or try to be politically correct, etc... I was never afraid of her... like YOU were when you told me to keep things behind her back.. why hide? what? you were afraid of her explosive attitude and DRAMA? You can't take the good and scratch the bad... when you like someone you have to take it all... and lola without drama is not lola ok?

We don't poison each other... we enjoy each other, and that's why we lasted so long as friends... about competing with each other about who's life is better, well...each one has a different life and vision of life and still we find common ground. No need for competition. About who's prettier... I know i am beautiful and i think she is too in her own way, we are both divas of the realms, so what? No one should have a problem with that... and if they do.. they should go lick an ice cream...

Neo2012 wrote:You are equally shallow, equally defensive, equally jealous, equally over dramatic! And you both radiate more negative energies in your life than you care to accept but you do!
...I have tried to free your minds from all of that in order for the two of you to take a step up from useless vanity and conceitedness and “too much” self-importance and see the greater picture.

Everyone can be shallow, defensive, jealous and over dramatic at some point Neo.. just look at your post 37.

You have tried to free my mind? No, you proposed something to me i simply didn't agree with, so i didn't go along with it as you would've wanted... it didn't have anything to do with my vanity and conceitedness and my self importance, which btw i hold in high regard... iow, we were never fighting for you as your ego would've loved to believe... i told her the same thing from the beginning... "what you do with him is your business.. I'm not gonna tell you what to do or not to do"...

...and this "greater picture" is what exactly? to be able to exchange energies with me and her at the same time? I never had a problem with that remember? You and I (and her) know that she was the one who got hurt by the idea of sharing you... not me... why would i get hurt if you're only my friend? I'm a free spirit, she's not-- She's more of a "behind the doors" kinda girl... and with the lights off!! She's into commitment... attachment... possessiveness, i on the other hand am trying to get rid of all that.

Neo2012 wrote:You want to know the truth of why I blocked you from my number or FB, is not to hide you, is to block your negative energies and drama, same as Xeia’s.

"As Xeia's"??? omg AS IF... I've EVER initiated contact with you on fb and called you on the phone... who do you think i am? ... Lola?

Neo2012 wrote:You’ve not learned to love “unconditionally” not so much towards me, rather towards each other, and towards others.

What do you know about unconditional love?

Neo2012 wrote:I’ve purposely made sexual references, not because I am interested in or want something sexual with either of you, but because I wanted to see just how worth it, really worth it was going to be investing energy in a friendship with either of you!

What is this supposed to mean? you find yourself between a rock and a hard place and then you back up on your words? Have you no honor? Be honest to yourself... you didn't want to see just how "worth" we were to be your friends? (which is laughable btw), you already had and have our friendship see? Thing is... i always knew what you wanted... but Lola didn't... and that was the stone in your shoe... the consequences of her being insecure and confused.. that's why i always said she needed to know everything... you didn't want to give her the chance of accepting you as you really are due to your own fear of rejection... and loosing this "bond" that you had found with her...

Neo2012 wrote:Are you worthy people to come into my life, my kid’s life, my family life, and my g/f life? Or is life so hard on you guys that you can’t laugh at the situation when a MUTUAL male friend of yours says, “you BOTH are so hot, you make my dick so hard it feels is about to explode”.

Do you actually read what you write? or are you so impulsive that you just eject by the heat of the moment and regret it nine months later? What does your family life.. kids and gf included have to do with any of this? have you lost perspective? Again you are implying Lola and I should be happy to "share" you... baby, we never looked at it that way, at least i always made it very clear to her what my position was. Your sexy chat was not as imaginary and harmless as you make it sound however, Lola bought into it...and it would've been much easier if you would've followed my advice and tell her from the beginning... this is me... this is what i do... take it or leave it... in fact it was me who talked her into "forgiving" you and stop being so angry at you... "so what if he talks sex? all men like sex... what else is new?"

Neo2012 wrote:Xeia, “Oh I love Rok” , You, “Oh Neo, but I only want you and should only want me”

What does Rok have to do with anything?

Neo2012 wrote:Fuck you! Fuck all of you! “I love my g/f”

Omg Neo... get a grip on yourself! You don't have to go so low, be so rude and vulgar. What has gotten you so upset?

Neo2012 wrote:All this DRAMA and judgmental crap you guys have going back and forth with each other over something so miniscule as Internet conversations and out of text sexual references are both so petty in my eyes, that frankly I am bored with the both of you.

You both BORE me. You are both “equally” unattractive! You are both “equally” dull, and self-centered, and toxic.

Relax Neo, not all is lost... there is still hope...

Neo2012 wrote:No. I don not want to sleep with NEITHER of you.

Jesus...! who is the drama boy now? When was this ever even considered? Maybe you've talked with Lola about hitting the sack... but why do you include me? Sorry to burst your bubble but... i never thought of actually sleeping with you... over a little sexy chat? cm'on! sperm

Neo2012 wrote:Nor do I questioned Xeia’s love for Rok, in fact, I am happy for her that she’s in love, good for her! Now, lighten the fuck up, and enjoy life!

What does me being in love have to do with anything? really... think about it!

I think you are the one who is taking things too seriously Neo...

Neo2012 wrote:Seriously, you guys need to get a life! And, lighten up. Listen to the Logos! Or whatever other Dogma’s you care to put your faith in…and live a little!
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You are a little boy throwing a tantrum because your ego got hurt. I suggest you contemplate long and hard about what is really bothering you and talk to us for a change...

The real you...

yea

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Re: Introspection

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Inconvenient truth

Session one, part one

Session one, part two

Session one, part three

Session one, part four

Session one, part five

Session one, part six - session FINALE

(sometimes they do not play all the way so it is safe to say...that you should click on play button if it stops very soon...but videos are short....or it might get cut off too soon)

Lola Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:00 pm

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Re: Introspection

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Neo2012 wrote:

First of all, I think you both don't know me very well, that's all and that's fine. No hard feelings? - Of course not! I am not offended by neither of you or Xeia!

I find it is improper and quite unproductive to start a sentence with "First of All", if the intention is to prove "non offense" or "lack thereof"...For remember, words carry images...and here, the only one that comes to mind is one of a lower class gal, standing on a corner, with her hand on her waste, swinging her hips from side to side, as she chews gun and spits out the words...First of all!~...

Of course you are offended...If you weren't, you would not have posted such a vile depiction of yourself...You are angry, despondent, belligerent, and full of hatred and disgust...

While I admit, I am not a student of the Logos, the Matrix, or Metaphysics in general, I must say and quite emphatically so that the picture you so righteously point at me does not look like that of an enlightened member of society...

Quite the contrary...The picture you present shows the anger and bitterness of a man sucked in to the system...spit out by society...and beaten by the minute realities of everyday life...

Neo2012 wrote:
Alexandria I didn't block you from FB because I hold any fears or insecurities. And, I am certainly not afraid of your Scorpio sting! I am a natural healer, a real medicine man. Stings don’t hurt me, make me sick, nor kill me! [/size]

If this is how you see yourself, than by all means, let your actions reflect your words...For he who holds this "Gift", this "talent" has a moral responsibility to share it with the world...if he is to be at peace and if he is to accomplish his true calling and purpose in this journey we call life...

If you are a healer...HEAL...If you a medicine man...CURE...If you are a POET, write...Do it without reservation and with true conviction in KNOWING that who you are and what you can offer is true and meaningful and of value to yourself and humanity...

Stings don't hurt you, make you sick or kill you...Of course not, you have grown stronger with every battle, more resolute with every defeat...But be careful, as often we also grow more reclusive, more bitter, thus allowing our fears of yet another failure consume us...

Neo2012 wrote:[img][/img]

My g/f minored in psychology in College and one of the things I love her for the most is for her mind. She understands me very well, more then you realize! And, she knows me more then you realize too!

My g/f knows everything we talk about. She has read this forum. She has read our FB interactions as well as Skype conversations. She sits next to me most of the time. And when she doesn’t, things are still accessible to her; we share the same notebook, she knows my passwords, and we keep no secrets from each other. [/size]

I dare say, shame on you for bringing your girlfriend/YOUR PREGNANT girlfriend into a discussion such as this...Highly inappropriate! I do not approve! That you love her?! I should hope that you do! That she "understands" you?! No, I disagree...For if she did, she would have the wherewithal to calm and deflect this anger that festers and continues to consume you...That you admire her scholastic pursuits?! And that "her mind" intrigues you...well...intelligence and how we perceive intelligence is all relative to the one making the observation...

That you keep no secrets...That she knows everything...I am sorry, but I simply do not believe that and therefore will offer no further comment.

Neo2012 wrote:

We are members of Swingers Club; we’ve had sex knowingly that others are watching us, openly in public places. She knows my sexual energy and she knows that I am very much an egocentric, larger then life egomaniac!

She knows you’re in Florida, and she would not mind me going and spending “ONE” evening you. She wouldn’t mind you coming over and hanging out with us. In fact, she’d love to meet you. She’d love it! [/size]

Well...That was a mouth full! I have to digest a few things here...and not let my own judgement close objectivity and discourse. This is my Achilles Heel, you see...As I am one of the most judgmental people you will ever meet...However, as I do try to wrestle these unruly gremlins, I do find they have a purpose for they keep me from people and events that would, no doubt, detract me from my path...judgement and so called "gut feeling" does indeed eradicate that which is poisonous and toxic to my own sense of self...

Having said that...I will echo a resounding BRAVO!!! for sexual expression, and a life free of sexual inhibitions...No doubt your offspring are the byproduct of such liberation...I would love to be a fly on the wall on the day you offer "the talk" about the birds and the bees, free love, and spreading the seed of life...

Neo2012 wrote:

However, the thing that turns her off, and turns me off is the DRAMA, and the negativity! You may not realize it or be willing to accept this, but YOU and Xeia are two opposing energies, harmful for one another, you are each other’s toxins, and venom. Constantly poisoning one another! Competing with each other as to who’s life is going better, and who’s prettier then the other and who’s family life is nicer, or which one of you attract more man, and so on and so forth. [/size]

I must say Neo, this here is a classic example of how perception drives reality. While you are correct in arriving at the conclusion that Xeia and I are opposing energies, you are wrong in assessing the ending result or our interactions...and you are dead wrong in your conclusion of our said pathology...

Remember dear, it is your gf who possesses "the minor in psychology", not you...

Competition is irrelevant in this case simply because it offers no logical rational. I am conservative, she is liberal...I am a registered NRA card carrying Republican, she is a Democrat...My home is full of carefully orchestrated antiques, and hers is full of folklore and ethnicity...The colors in my home are subtle hues of blue and amber, while hers are yellows and magentas...I love the Opera, she love the ballad...

Ah...but what is important here is Not our inherent and obvious differences...but the intrinsic values that serve as the glue to our bond...

Our love of poetry and the arts, our positive outlook on life and our respect for nature, our love of children and our compassion for humanity... Our ever growing faith and zest for life and all it offers...Our passion for the written word, our relentless search for truth and knowledge and answers...and our willingness to venture outside the box and the confines of the rules this society has imposed on us...Rules we follow diligently...by the way...as we are well versed in playing and winning the game...and this is where YOU Neo, may reference our family life, respectable position in society, our nest egg, and financial assets.

Neo2012 wrote:[img][/img]

You are equally shallow, equally defensive, equally jealous, equally over dramatic! And you both radiate more negative energies in your life than you care to accept but you do!

I have tried to free your minds from all of that in order for the two of you to take a step up from useless vanity and conceitedness and “too much” self-importance and see the greater picture.

You want to know the truth of why I blocked you from my number or FB, is not to hide you, is to block your negative energies and drama, same as Xeia’s.

The only thing my g/f feels about all of this,
The thing she tells me the most and bothers her the most,
Is that I shouldn’t be wasting my time online with either of you. [/size]

I will venture to say that what bothers your girlfriend is NOT that you are "wasting" time with us but that you are spending time with two beautiful, enigmatic, intelligent women and are simply exing her out of the equation...We are mysterious, and she has become commonplace, a fixture in your daily life, controller and manipulator of your future... And how do I know this? Because this, my love, is what my husband is to me...

My suggestion? Change your password, change your outlook, change from manipulated to manipulator...make her jealous, make her envious, make her envision life with you not there, make her see the other side of the fence...for talking without the action behind it backing up the words is futile...empty threats...just words...

Neo2012 wrote:[img][/img]

Fuck you! Fuck all of you! “I love my g/f” I love a woman that allows me to say what I want to say and not feel threaten by their own insecurities! A woman that would go to a Gentleman’s Club with me on my birthday and treat me to a dozen lap dances, watch me get hard and excited having other woman’s breast all over my face and not feel threatened, and ask me,” Is that what you like, you dirty old man …you?” Then, grab me by the hand and lead me somewhere to make out and feeling me up, letting me fill her up, and end up having a climatic sexual experience between the two of us”
You both BORE me. You are both “equally” unattractive! You are both “equally” dull, and self-centered, and toxic.[/size]

My, my...sex in a gentleman's club...she is the perfect woman, isn't she?! Well, not perfect...but perfect for you, right?...

Neo2012 wrote:[img][/img]

Alexandria, yeah, go use your private detective to locate my g/f and tell her ALL the things we’ve said online and not done, come over, in fact your welcome, and don’t worry, I won’t be putting a restraining order, my g/f would take care of that for me, right after asking you if you’d care to watch her, pregnant and all, screw the brains out of me in front of you! Then, she’ll put a restraining order and say, “Stay the fuck away from my man, you psycho!” Is that about enough stings for you, Scorpion? [/size]

No my love, I have no need...This is not a battle worth fighting...and no desire either, none...I'm afraid....

As to what she would say to me?! You are wrong again...She would probably cry...as I intimidate most men, and diminish most women...

-A

Neo2012 Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:30 pm

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Post n°45

Hush, Hush and Hush.....

Neo2012 Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:30 pm

Hush, Hush, and Hush my children! Do not despair! For like a Sheppard goes out of his way to find the lost sheep, I’ve come to gather you into Enlightenment!

I am the light shining brightly so that you don’t continue living in obscurity!

Sure, it isn’t pretty, the room is messy, theirs cobwebs, filthy critters crawling about from all places, a stench of foul smell fills the air and your eyes are hurting for you’ve never had to used them!

Don’t worry, I am your Master, and Savior, the answers will be revealed to all of you!

Funny all the little things we learned about someone’s “true self” when we tell a person something that is the opposite of what we want them to do or believe’; a little technique known as “Reverse Psychology”, a theory that has been tested and proven since the 1970’s and still kicking ass!

And, suddenly like a master fisherman baits a fish, the fish takes the bait and after a short struggle he lands his catch!

German psychologists Adormo and Horkheimer theorized that theirs a part of our psyche that doesn’t want others to get what they want, theirs a part of our psyche that even when confronted with facts leading to the knowledge that we are mistaken, going in the wrong direction sort of speak, this sinister part of our selves will fight to the bitter end, some sort of psychological warfare that goes on in our brains that make its difficult for us to grasp that others might be right but am not willing to accept, in fact, believing the opposite! And, only when someone like myself comes along with a BIG “fuck you” sign opposite of what I’ve been saying all along, do I get the reactions I was longing for, to put an end to your airs of true enlighten beings!

The “trick” – to have you believe I was offended, mirror back your pettiness, and pathetic selves, in order to have you talk to me the way you don’t dare to talk to yourselves when you look in a mirror, when you are not online hiding behind the mask of the Logos!

Thus exposing your true selves that are hiding behind an idea, a beautiful ideal, however, an excellent ideal but that you poorly manifest to wear it as “mask” rather then letting it be who you really are! Thus, you can’t fathom that someone else might be the real thing!

A nuisance, a maggot, a fly in the ointment, a real pain in the ass, that as Rok say I should listen to my girlfriends advice and let you wear this mask because its a fun thing to do, and a good way to hide the person you truly are inside, the person you don't want to confront but that this maggot keeps bleeping out of us!

Well, guess what? All you are but shadows! Shadows that went I come online and shed light, it vanishes because it’s made of no real substance, because all you do is cast shadows of your selves but the real you…. now…hmmm… that is what I expose!

In other words, for you slow thinkers, you preach, but you do not live in conformity with your so called believes!

Rok, you feel threaten by my presence, do not feel that way, for we are brothers and I mean you no harm! Realize, I am wiser then you! Thus, this does not mean I don’t acknowledge that you have much to offer, and a great prospect.

Xeia, you are very beautiful, and I love you, but darling listen for a moment, and open your heart, long have you manifested vanity, it is not your fault really, your are beautiful and beautiful beings tend to be vain at times, just don’t lie to yourself, your motives aren’t pure, and they don’t reflect the real you, stop hiding behind a false veil, and using “friendship” as shield to inflict poison, stop policing your friends activity, stop trying to as you say, “open her eyes”, believe me, her eyes are opened a lot wider then yours truly!

Practice the Real Logos! And, feel with your heart; embrace life with an open heart!

Rok, you said, “Your sexual grace has clearly not been appreciated here”

Know this Rok or should I say, “Jr”… “Sex” is not just merely an exchange of energies, its much more then that! It is a tool of great influence and can bring many things about ourselves to light that we would otherwise never confront and conquer, things like envy, jealousy, hatred, vainness, vanity, selfishness, impurities of our true self.

I did not stumble upon Gaia, or The Logos, I don’t make self-disclosures of myself, unlike Tony that professes to have written the book of “Revelations” nor do I say to be Gaia, and I am not the one preaching the “Real Logos” and posing, I did not create this Forum, nor The Logos. Yet, you all profess to think that you have something to preach to me, to teach me, that somehow I am blinded by Ego, you eager to find faults in me, to catch me on dive down to the ground, see me crash, because Neo the Illustrious is full of crap!

Offend me? Ha Ha Ha Ha…. Children please when will you ever grow up!

Take a look at Alexandria’s post, now, re read your post Xeia, and your post Rok…

Alexandria said, “Now you’re speaking to my heart…And it is listening…as it beats for you, my love.”

Did she take offense by my previous post? - Maybe, maybe not!

No, I think she got the message! I think she’s laughing now! And, I think she's expressed her feeligs in defense of her friendship! Bravo!

Sooo, you are exposed as having weaknesses, you are exposed as merely phantoms of the Logos! And, is taken vulgarity to bring this about? -- Hmm, those that hurt you? Offend you? -

You are the ones offended, if you read carefully, all of your posts are sooo defensive! You are the ones crying! You are the one's truly responding in defense and anger…revenge even!

It is not my Ego doing this, but yours and yours alone! As I've stated before in previous posts, I am the catalyst. I am the light. And, the light when it brightens up a place, a dark place its not always pretty, rather it can be messy.

Rok said, “You are a fake to yourself and others and yes I am sure you could show how very unbalanced and negatively charged i am but you cant since it has to be the weight of your own humongous balls that is slowing you down” -

Did you get offended Rok? Where you offended when you where told to grow some balls? - Are you trying to grow some now? – Hmmm oh Rok?

See, how the light works? - Do you really want to experience the “real logos”, do you Rok, or you Xeia?

Because if you do, theirs a lesson to be learned and this is it right here…

Alexandrias words:

“I enjoyed our conversation...Absolutely, I would love to meet your girlfriend!!! And your son...the whole family!!! It would be fun!
As for your lifestyle?! Thanks for being honest, and I won't judge you...Nonsense, none of that! That is not me...I love you just the way you are...we all have value and we all have something to contribute...
I certainly wouldn't subscribe to your lifestyle...I am more of an Opera and fine wine kind of girl...
BUT hey, whatever floats your boat is fine with me...You are still a friend...still an important person in my life...
I will go now and find this Venetian Fountain you spoke about...Can't wait...I hope you enjoy the rest of your day and I certainly look forward to meeting you all...”

That is the Real Logos being manifested! And, now, we see the difference in polarities in her last posts!

Suddenly, now she feels the need to run in defense of the affects I claimed their friendship (Xeia's and hers) where having on each other! Classic!

She needs to run in defense of her sensitive, delicate friend and validate the positive energies that are the real bond of their relationship! GOOD!

THAT IS VERY GOOD, SEE THE GOOD IN EACH OTHER - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Initial reactions and post secondary reactions! -

Initially she felt the light, but the light did not stay in her, it dissipated and some obscurity took over again...

What do i mean?? Well, I meant, quickly forgetting the cobwebs, the messyness of the room, the things misplaced or out of place.

Rather, then using the light, to clean up, tweak, and re model a little, take the opportunity not only to see the GOOD but to eliminate the petty things too!

You…you are ALL just wet behind the ears! - And, need of a good spanking! lol

Like Tony thinking I am “competition”, "A Great Competitor of the Logos" he said. He has given me something to "smile" about with that! Thanks!

Children, clear you minds, I didn’t come here to compete, I am here as a Teacher! I am the Grand Master! The Illustrious Neo, the Savior! A real and authentic Zen Master!

What was it you once said, “Booo Whoooo” lol

Mirrors are a bitch! Aren’t they? ….hmm Rok? -- Indeed!!!

Love to all of you! Live long and Prosper!

Your souls… How quickly we judge, and how quickly we get on the defensive side!

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Lola Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:33 pm

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Post n°46

For Rok...Introspection...Session One...Part Four...

Lola Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:33 pm

My dear sweet, Rok...

I had no idea you possessed such creative sensibilities...such a flair for satire...and camp comedy...

But did you have to make me so grotesque?

My heart aches at the sight of this rotund woman!!!

Further insulting to my sensibilities is her inability to master motion and dance!

Take Pity on Me and On My Tormented Soul...My Heart Brakes at the Thought That This is How You See Me...!!!

Is This All I am to You Rok??? Layers upon layers of visceral fat...hardening and clotting my arterial walls as we speak???

I will have you know, my sweet darling, that as we are all God's creation, I work to not OFFEND, ALTER or CHANGE HIS creation...Therefore....

I watch my weight, exercise, consume organic foods when available, pay close attention to my appearance, etc...

I mean come on, my love...Have I not mysterious green eyes, flawless skin, lustrous hair, a Double D Cup size and an a*** men love to spanK???!!!

AND THEN...You make this woman...uncoordinated...unable to dance or carry a tune?!

OH GOD...Have you no MERCY on ME????

I will have you know, that while I am certainly not able to produce a lap dance or any other "sexy stuff" you may appreciate, I do...

dance the tango, the flamenco, and the sexiest salsa this side of the Atlantic...

In fact, come to New York...I will teach you some steps...that is, with Xeia's approval, of course...

Lola Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:47 pm

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FOR NEO FOR NEO FOR NEO FOR NEO FOR NEO...Introspection

Lola Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:47 pm

Neo2012 wrote:Initial reactions and post secondary reactions! Initially she felt the light, but the light did not stay in her, it dissipated and obscurity was all that was left again!

No Neo, initially you did not INCORPORATE THAT VILE PICTURE OF YOURSELF...

WHEN I RESPONDED TO YOU...I DID NOT SEE THAT PICTURE!!!

YOU ADDED THAT ON LATER...

SNEAKY...EVIL...JUST WRONG...

WHY? WHY DEGRADE YOURSELF...

WHY DEGRADE ME???

NOW ASK YOURSELF...WHEN HAVE I TREATED YOU THIS WAY????

BECAUSE IF A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS...YOU WITH THAT PHOTO HAVE SPOKEN VOLUMES...

YOU OWE MEEEEEE an apology...Me oiste? Because as soon as I tried to see things from your point of view...I thought we had an understanding...I thought, we were on the same page...then you go behind my back and as an afterthought post that picture....

How dare you? Why? Why are you continuing to sabotage our friendship and WHY, for the love of God, do you continue to doubt me...

Que en tu conciencia quede...que yo no te he fallado...

Neo2012 Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:53 pm

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Post n°48

Sweetie...I was EDITING when you wrote this last post! LOL

Neo2012 Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:53 pm

Sweetie, that line you quoted me saying was being Edited when you posted your message. My bad. I did not articulate that well! And, I opologyse for the misunderstanding. I do feel we are on the same page!

One that speaks of love and tolerance!

And, that VILE PICTURE of myself giving the finger, is grotesque, is vile, but this the "image" mirrored on these postings! It is nothing more then a reflection of the vile interactions of the so called practitioners of the Logos...this is how they see me! That is the mirror image of Rok, and even of Tony, as they respond to my posts. They are giving me the finger, and saying this what I think! lol

I posted that picture and said what I said "opposite" of what I would normally say or post, to draw their true self out...which I have.

And, to say...listen...practice, practice, practice living according to what you preach, according to the Real Logos, if indeed is real to you!

And, stop hating, I am your brother! I am the light! And you have my love! So, why are you giving me the finger all the time? -

Love to all!

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Allisiam Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:03 pm

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Post n°49

Todays Skype Convo

Allisiam Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:03 pm

Todays Skype convo 1-11-2011 Introspection - Page 2 161471

[8:47:20 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: tony where is that date in 2011 - where all the astrological 9's come up
[8:47:30 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: did i put that on the 260 kin thread
[8:52:36 AM] Tonyblue: i dont recall susan
[8:53:18 AM] Tonyblue: its one of your synchronicities its not one of the nexus points on the timeline in the warpzone as i see it
[8:53:31 AM] Tonyblue: i deleted 3 of the spammers btw
[8:53:49 AM] Tonyblue: they cant sign in again
[8:53:55 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i wonder
[8:54:04 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: if converted to your equal house astrology
[8:54:10 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: it would sync with one of those dates
[8:54:57 AM] Tonyblue: it does not matter as the natal charts are old world
[8:55:11 AM] Tonyblue: they show your path not the new world
[8:55:23 AM] Tonyblue: journey into the new world as a shaman say
[8:55:29 AM] Tonyblue: in your case
[8:55:32 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i agree
[8:55:58 AM] Tonyblue: yes why i put the rainbow serafina on your dream thread
[8:56:13 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: however, i see that
[8:56:22 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: revelelation13.net
[8:56:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgtYXsvAWI
[8:56:30 AM] Tonyblue: thuis is what kiesha tunes in same energy but she is public you are hidden see'
[8:56:36 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: had a couple of videos just watching them now
[8:56:51 AM] Tonyblue: they dont know susan
[8:57:01 AM] Tonyblue: they did not write it
[8:57:08 AM] Tonyblue: see chapeter Rev 10
[8:57:14 AM] Tonyblue: this is the key for Us
[8:57:27 AM] Tonyblue: the hidden mystery
[8:57:34 AM] Tonyblue: they are all speculating
[8:57:52 AM] Tonyblue: Read Rev.10 and then you know in the feel of it
[8:59:19 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: rev 11
[9:00:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: 2 that appear about 93 years after ww1 11/2011
[9:00:26 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: turning point
[9:00:55 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: you ever read his site
[9:01:08 AM] Tonyblue: not 11 susan
[9:01:11 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: who are these 4 horse man
[9:01:24 AM] Tonyblue: 11 is US as mirrors everyone who can handle it
[9:01:32 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: the sun is in a different spot here in the sky
[9:01:40 AM] Tonyblue: 10 is the 'secret' commission waiting for the trumpet see
[9:01:49 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i see
[9:01:55 AM] Tonyblue: the mystery is finished for the witnesses before the world
[9:02:06 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: interesting that kerry o'connor - saw some interesting things
[9:02:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: related to a trumpet
[9:02:13 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; a group that i work with
[9:02:18 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: a thin road
[9:02:25 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: to the trumpet; then a huge road
[9:02:30 AM] Tonyblue: read 10 and dont worry about the bible bashers they feel the thing is on but DONT have a clue really
[9:04:31 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: "the dragon," "the beast," and "the false prophet"
[9:05:11 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: are the 7 thunders
[9:05:16 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: like guides/or guardians
[9:05:59 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: to the lower astral/high astral worlds
[9:06:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; to reach up higher
[9:06:08 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: into the next 6 points
[9:06:49 AM] Tonyblue: well its simpler really
[9:06:52 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: what is the little book
[9:07:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: like the book of lives that will graduate
[9:07:06 AM] Tonyblue: have you not read my detailed exposes what those labels are?
[9:07:16 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i might of missed that
[9:07:18 AM] Tonyblue: The Beast from the SEA is from the MIRROR
[9:07:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: you've written a lot
[9:07:23 AM] Tonyblue: your false self images
[9:07:32 AM] Tonyblue: all are beast and christ and antichrist
[9:08:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: it was john who wrote revelations
[9:09:56 AM] Tonyblue: Yes and John was my incarnation in the times of Jesus
[9:10:11 AM] Tonyblue: so i bloody well know my own visons
[9:10:24 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes,that i knew
[9:10:32 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: 1260 days
[9:10:34 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: from what date
[9:11:14 AM] Tonyblue: June 25th 2008
[9:11:38 AM] Tonyblue: also from August 4th 2008 as the 40 days of wilderness again
[9:12:07 AM] Tonyblue: same as Callemanns 40 days 28th October go to the last of those 1260 days december 8th 2011
[9:12:38 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: who is the woman in c 12
[9:13:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so what are the 7 plagues
[9:13:24 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: on c14
[9:13:35 AM] Tonyblue: they have not come yet Susan
[9:13:54 AM] Tonyblue: 7th Trumpet is 8December 2011 to April 1st 2012
[9:14:06 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i see
[9:14:07 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: 1st Bowl: Boils on men who accepted the mark of the beast. 2nd Bowl: The sea turned to blood like a corpse. All sea creatures die. 3rd Bowl: Rivers and springs turn to blood. 4th Bowl: Burned men with fire. They do not repent. 5th Bowl: Plunged into darkness. 6th Bowl: Poured out on the great river Euphrates. It's water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings of the East. Three unclean spirits come from the mouth of Dragon, Beast and False Prophet. They perform miracles, and assemble the kings of the Earth for battle. Be on your guard! I come like a thief. Happy is the man who stays wide awake and prepared. Devils assemble the kings in a place in Hebrew called Armageddon. 7th Bowl: Loud voice says, "It is finished." Suddenly, the worst earthquake ever. The Great City is split into three parts. Other Gentile cities also fall. God remembers Babylon the great, giving her cup of His blazing wrath. Islands, mountains disappear. Giant hailstones fall.
[9:14:10 AM] Tonyblue: C15 ends December 21st, 2012
[9:14:20 AM] Tonyblue: December 16th 2013 ends Rev.22
[9:14:33 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: why do people get boils - bad blood ?
[9:14:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or; something bad in their blood ?
[9:14:43 AM] Tonyblue: the 7 plagues are part of the pregnancy
[9:14:50 AM] Tonyblue: its symbolic
[9:15:17 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, but people do get them
[9:15:41 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i got one, b4 my drowning in 1966
[9:15:55 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: on my nose of all places
[9:16:06 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: but, it disappeared after the water / drowing event
[9:16:40 AM] Tonyblue: this stuff is NOT physical susan
[9:16:44 AM] Tonyblue: it CAN be
[9:16:52 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: ok
[9:16:54 AM] Tonyblue: but its all 'wars in heaven'
[9:17:06 AM] Tonyblue: like the plagues of Egypt
[9:17:15 AM] Tonyblue: same thing
[9:17:29 AM] Tonyblue: boils of Nebuchadnezzar in babylon
[9:17:38 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: ok
[9:17:45 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: likely for me a processing of old stuff
[9:18:00 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: one of my squirrels is high up in the tree; about to become the hawk's lunch
[9:18:31 AM] Tonyblue: hawks are there atm
[9:18:33 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: stange blue jays; cardinals; and; hawks
[9:18:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes,
[9:18:45 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: about to harvest a big fat grey squirrel
[9:18:48 AM] Tonyblue: Thunderbirds odf Serafina
[9:18:55 AM] Tonyblue: you are playing baiame well now
[9:19:03 AM] Tonyblue: Rainbow Serpent
[9:19:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: while the blue jays; and; cardinals are fighting for - territory
[9:20:22 AM] Tonyblue: The seven seals have all opened Susan
[9:20:32 AM] Tonyblue: the seventh on August 4th, 2008
[9:20:42 AM] Tonyblue: Six trumpets have sounded
[9:21:04 AM] Tonyblue: the seventh announces the new insemination
[9:21:18 AM] Tonyblue: new heaven and new earth see all the encodings
[9:21:28 AM] Tonyblue: the 7 plagues are after
[9:21:38 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; i am working with a group; that blow the 7th trumpet
[9:21:46 AM] Tonyblue: yes
[9:21:59 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: that's interesting Kerrie o'connor saw that
[9:22:01 AM] Tonyblue: its the Big nexus END of Warptime
[9:22:18 AM] Tonyblue: Date=April 1st, 2012
[9:22:28 AM] Tonyblue: March 31st, 2012
[9:23:36 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: interesting
[9:23:48 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i noticed that jo dunning; is also on a radio show today
[9:23:54 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: at approx 3pm est - 3 1/2 hrs from now
[9:26:44 AM] Tonyblue: yes many many people will come out in 2011 Susan
[9:27:03 AM] Tonyblue: but not many have the real inside data not the silly ptb stuff
[9:27:09 AM] Tonyblue: WE are the PTB Susan
[9:27:31 AM] Tonyblue: without the money without the exposure
[9:27:42 AM] Tonyblue: because we are in the synchro
[9:29:13 AM] Tonyblue: anyone who understands the GOT Susan is far ahead of any ptb
[9:29:24 AM] Tonyblue: why do they never mention it lol
[9:29:33 AM] Tonyblue: you know what it says at the start?
[9:31:08 AM] Tonyblue: SUSAN LOOK AT THIS
[9:31:22 AM] Tonyblue: THIS IS THE GOSPEL OF THE PTB
[9:31:31 AM] Tonyblue: WHY THEY THINK AS THEY DO
[9:31:37 AM] Tonyblue: These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.

(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."

(2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
[9:31:57 AM] Tonyblue: FOCUS on the RULE OVER ALL!
[9:32:12 AM] Tonyblue: THE ALL and ALL
[9:32:34 AM] Tonyblue: Because the ptb KNOWS this they are trying to sequester it
[9:32:40 AM] Tonyblue: because it is truth
[9:33:14 AM] Tonyblue: why they ridicule the scriptures and why the GOT is dismissed by the academics -its a plan
[9:33:40 AM] Tonyblue: Are you astonished Yet?
[9:33:45 AM] Tonyblue: lol
[9:34:06 AM] Tonyblue: to be astonished you need to UNDERSTAND this
[9:34:14 AM] Tonyblue: and the ptb dont but the PTB does
[9:38:09 AM] Ishtara Raven:

(39) Jesus said, "The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves."

[9:38:48 AM] Ishtara Raven: the world PTB susan are the pharisees in this, it is they who have taken the keys and hidden them from the world.
[9:39:34 AM] Tonyblue: small ptb Susan you are big PTB if you get the GOT
[9:39:59 AM] Tonyblue: [9:38 AM] Tonyblue:

<<< (40) Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by its roots and destroyed."
i am destroying lol i deleted 3 spam accounts
[9:40:24 AM] Tonyblue: these are the ptb Susan it is rooted up, why they are surrying for cover
[9:40:34 AM] Tonyblue: running for cover
[9:40:54 AM] Tonyblue: they are mindblown with the floods in Queensland say
[9:41:07 AM] Tonyblue: this is no silly HAARP business or chemtrails
[9:41:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yup
[9:41:15 AM] Tonyblue: they confuse the new agers with
[9:41:35 AM] Tonyblue: so if you get this you rule over them see
[9:41:46 AM] Tonyblue: because you can MAKE NEW LAWS see
[9:41:58 AM] Tonyblue: nothing to do with physical control
[9:42:06 AM] Tonyblue: its Mental Controol over symbols
[9:42:16 AM] Tonyblue: ptb are slaves to their own symbols
[9:42:18 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i see this
[9:42:22 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: they truly are
[9:42:31 AM] Tonyblue: yep
[9:42:32 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: the more you got; the more you need to care for
[9:42:36 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: no way round that
[9:42:37 AM] Ishtara Raven: you become master over your own images, including the fake ones
[9:42:39 AM] Tonyblue: Your Power is cosmic Susan
[9:42:45 AM] Tonyblue: YES
[9:42:52 AM] Tonyblue: this is key
[9:43:06 AM] Tonyblue: you eat their devils and demons and evil reptoids see
[9:43:16 AM] Tonyblue: YOU are master of their own makings
[9:43:37 AM] Ishtara Raven:

(7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

[9:43:57 AM] Tonyblue: so NOW Gaia as physical planet has AWOKEN and decided to GO with the New Law of the Dragons see that?
[9:44:03 AM] Tonyblue: this is LOGOS
[9:44:04 AM] Ishtara Raven: so see, by eating the christ and allowing him to become the lion in you, you become like him.
[9:44:14 AM] Tonyblue: not human regulations and powermongerings
[9:44:22 AM] Ishtara Raven: and you consume it all within you
[9:44:44 AM] Tonyblue: yes if only the new agers would get this lol
[9:44:56 AM] Tonyblue: no more requirement foer whistleblower interviews
[9:45:13 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i was drawn back
[9:45:15 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: to read
[9:45:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: what i wrote on michael teachings
[9:45:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; to understand
[9:45:29 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: why some did not get it
[9:45:31 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; i see it;
[9:45:34 AM] Tonyblue: the stuff on the web is speculation and hearsey susan
[9:45:35 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: parables for everything
[9:45:42 AM] Tonyblue: especially when it comes to Rev
[9:45:44 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; i didn't know what a parable was
[9:45:51 AM] Tonyblue: lol
[9:46:01 AM] Tonyblue: the Woman with the Jar is You Susan
[9:46:05 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: now i know why i was kept out of the bible
[9:46:12 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: love is...the end result
[9:46:15 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: then; the virtues
[9:46:19 AM] Tonyblue: yes not to get polluted
[9:46:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; all of them are written like parables
[9:46:31 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, it never felt, like i was writing it
[9:46:38 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: are these; the lost books of ruth ?
[9:46:59 AM] Ishtara Raven: we have been quoting the Gospel of Thomas susan
[9:47:02 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, who exactly was ruth
[9:47:15 AM] Tonyblue: Susan this is YOU as the Woman with the Jar:
[9:47:19 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: up til now, i kind of been avoiding 'the bible' stuff
[9:47:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: kind of like; a woman in a jar
[9:47:24 AM] Tonyblue:

(97) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. While she was walking on the road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied out behind her on the road. She did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. When she reached her house, she set the jar down and found it empty."

[9:47:33 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: funny; i pick a big jar; out of the garbage the other day LOL
[9:48:01 AM] Tonyblue: Ruth is a Hebrew Queen 'marrying' a foreign king to preserve the bloodlines
[9:48:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; what are these books/or keys
[9:48:29 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: are they part of the emerald tablets
[9:48:37 AM] Tonyblue: of course
[9:48:46 AM] Tonyblue: you are the hermes Thrice as hermenia
[9:48:57 AM] Tonyblue: Thrice Hermenia
[9:49:12 AM] Tonyblue: its androgenous
[9:49:26 AM] Ishtara Raven: the GOT is the key susan
[9:49:38 AM] Tonyblue: and the ptb KNOW this absolutely
[9:49:46 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i am aware of that
[9:49:51 AM] Tonyblue: why you dont hear about the GOT mainstream see
[9:50:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: the book of GOT ;)
[9:50:06 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: LOL
[9:50:07 AM] Tonyblue: you hear bible stuff NOT GOT
[9:50:18 AM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html book mark this susan and study it
[9:50:41 AM] Tonyblue: lol i did change my bookmark to this raven
[9:50:48 AM] Ishtara Raven: hehe me too
[9:51:04 AM] Tonyblue: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html
[9:51:22 AM] Tonyblue: same page better translation Susan
[9:51:43 AM] Ishtara Raven: susan as you read this it will open flood gates of data. and the more you read it, the more gnosis will flow from within you
[9:51:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: Hermione of Ephesus (died 117 A.D.)
[9:51:57 AM] Tonyblue: See the Jar parable is the Wisdom of the World as Sophia the Woman
[9:52:11 AM] Tonyblue: i am talking symbol not persona
[9:52:32 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: I DO SEE that
[9:52:45 AM] Tonyblue: so the ptb thinks it has all the wisdom but in moving along the timeline they lose it all and at the end they have nothing
[9:52:56 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: found 04 jan / 2011
[9:53:00 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: ops
[9:53:04 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: 03 jan 2011
[9:53:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: on monday
[9:53:13 AM] Tonyblue: Ephesus is John's gospelizing as Europe
[9:53:32 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: 03 jan (4) in 2011 (4) - balance
[9:53:38 AM] Tonyblue: the SEVEN churches in REV Susan are the continents
[9:53:48 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, that i know
[9:53:55 AM] Tonyblue: seven chakras of Cayce
[9:54:05 AM] Tonyblue: USA is Laodecea
[9:54:14 AM] Tonyblue: the worst
[9:54:21 AM] Tonyblue: lukewarm
[9:54:27 AM] Tonyblue: becoming spat out
[9:54:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: was there 114 of them ?
[9:55:02 AM] Tonyblue: of what?
[9:55:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: records
[9:55:12 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes america is being humbled, brought to its knees as it were in a symbolic lesson
[9:55:25 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: what was the # of the records in nh
[9:55:36 AM] Tonyblue: yes because the great blessings were given to Joseph's sons
[9:55:53 AM] Tonyblue: Manasses as USA and Ephrahim as Commonwealth including canada
[9:56:19 AM] Tonyblue: nh?
[9:56:34 AM] Tonyblue: ah you mean the GOT
[9:56:46 AM] Tonyblue: 114 yes
[9:56:53 AM] Tonyblue: sayings
[9:57:13 AM] Tonyblue: NagHammadi
[9:57:23 AM] Tonyblue: nh
[9:57:41 AM] Tonyblue: So spiritually Canada and USA are brothers
[9:57:50 AM] Tonyblue: sisters better
[9:57:56 AM] Tonyblue: aas Holy lands
[9:58:01 AM] Ishtara Raven: hehe yep like me and susan
[9:58:32 AM] Tonyblue: yes merkabahs but now see yourself as the nations and so become part of Gaia old awaiting gaia New
[9:58:51 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes i see this
[9:58:54 AM] Tonyblue: Susan Schwenger=canada and Raven=USA
[9:58:59 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes,
[9:59:00 AM] Tonyblue: literally
[9:59:06 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, xeia, and, mum
[9:59:07 AM] Tonyblue: this is empowerment
[9:59:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: like central - south america
[9:59:20 AM] Tonyblue: you become Mothers Spirit of all in the land
[9:59:35 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, then we have brothers too
[9:59:39 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: in different places too
[9:59:57 AM] Tonyblue: well Susan ANYONE who eats the Lion becomes this its hyperpersonas see
[10:00:05 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i see that too
[10:00:22 AM] Tonyblue: now truly NOT MANY can eat the fire
[10:00:47 AM] Tonyblue: Hyperpersonas are much more expansive than higher selves and such labels
[10:01:09 AM] Tonyblue: you become bilocal or multilocal automatically
[10:01:31 AM] Tonyblue: Gaias ego not human ego
[10:01:47 AM] Tonyblue: why human ego is so puerile
[10:01:58 AM] Tonyblue: so selflimiting
[10:02:28 AM] Tonyblue: Imagine to BE all the mountains and creatures and rivers and lakes
[10:02:38 AM] Ishtara Raven:

(66) Jesus said, "Show me the stone which the builders have rejected. That one is the cornerstone."

[10:02:40 AM] Tonyblue: a bit bigger thjan being a lady of the Lake
[10:02:58 AM] Ishtara Raven: susan by eating the lion, you become the cornerstone
[10:03:07 AM] Tonyblue: ok Susan now a question for you
[10:03:23 AM] Ishtara Raven: of everyone else who does as well
[10:03:32 AM] Tonyblue: Can you explain now why the witnesses in Rev 11 can turn the waters on the earth into Blood?
[10:03:49 AM] Tonyblue: of your OWN Universe exactly
[10:04:07 AM] Tonyblue: not yet born as the merkabah requires immortalised bodiforms
[10:04:27 AM] Tonyblue: lightbodies so called
[10:04:42 AM] Tonyblue: not ghosts not phantasms
[10:04:45 AM] Ishtara Raven: the water of the earth literally becomes your blood
[10:05:00 AM] Tonyblue: i asked Susan, yes I know you know raven
[10:05:09 AM] Tonyblue: but yes
[10:05:27 AM] Tonyblue: i wanted to see if Susan can understand this
[10:05:48 AM] Tonyblue: the emphasis is LITERALLY as hologram
[10:06:01 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: well; we physically when we expire go back to the earth
[10:06:12 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; in fact we are blood of the earth
[10:06:16 AM] Tonyblue: this is far beyond this recycling Susan
[10:06:35 AM] Tonyblue: raven can explain it better than I
[10:06:39 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: blood is our lifeforce
[10:06:53 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: it carries all the elements that we are
[10:06:54 AM] Tonyblue: you are missing the holofractalisation Dear
[10:07:18 AM] Ishtara Raven: susan by eating the lion, you become the earth herself, the cosmos, all of it, therefore the waters of the earth ARE your blood
[10:07:28 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: whatever we eat
[10:07:31 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: we become
[10:07:34 AM] Tonyblue: amazing
[10:07:50 AM] Tonyblue: but see raven people cant see unless the Logos allows them
[10:07:59 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: that is how our blood cells are created
[10:08:01 AM] Ishtara Raven: eating means absorbing it susan, in gnosis, to image yourself as the entire cosmos, earth all of it
[10:08:02 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i think
[10:08:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: you are; what is eating you
[10:08:23 AM] Tonyblue: soo complicated serpent queen
[10:08:27 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, you are, what you are eating / or fighting; etc.,
[10:08:32 AM] Tonyblue: lol
[10:08:37 AM] Ishtara Raven: lol omg tony
[10:08:45 AM] Tonyblue: you see it raven
[10:08:47 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i haven't been eaten in so long
[10:08:49 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: lol
[10:08:49 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[10:09:10 AM] Tonyblue: amazing but now you can see why the ptb cant get this either
[10:09:29 AM] Tonyblue: its the Big Thought
[10:09:39 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes it is
[10:09:42 AM] Tonyblue: banning human ego
[10:09:56 AM] Tonyblue: its too large to comprehend
[10:10:10 AM] Tonyblue: and yet so simple
[10:10:15 AM] Ishtara Raven: its almost funny how simple it is when you do get it though, reason we laugh susan, not at you but at our own ignorance, we were there too lol
[10:10:27 AM] Tonyblue: like your posts to oxy on the mists
[10:10:44 AM] Tonyblue: of course sweety you will get it
[10:10:50 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: If a hologram of a rose is cut in half illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the entire image of the rose
[10:10:57 AM] Ishtara Raven: YES
[10:10:59 AM] Tonyblue: YES YES YES
[10:11:08 AM] Tonyblue: Now Susan go the other way
[10:11:16 AM] Ishtara Raven: Susan baby, YOU ARE THIS HOLOGRAM
[10:11:24 AM] Tonyblue: instead of going smaller go bigger
[10:11:38 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so, if you add, another rose; to a rose
[10:11:47 AM] Tonyblue: ASTONISHED Yet Susan as the GOT #2 says?
[10:11:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: all roses; will have the aspects of all other roses
[10:11:56 AM] Tonyblue: true
[10:11:58 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes yes
[10:12:10 AM] Tonyblue: ok Susan a Rose is a flower yes
[10:12:22 AM] Tonyblue: so now go away from Rose and add all other flowers
[10:12:39 AM] Tonyblue: so now you have a BIG Flower
[10:12:48 AM] Tonyblue: now add all plants all Flora
[10:12:53 AM] Tonyblue: add all Fauna
[10:13:03 AM] Tonyblue: add all galaxies still ONE HOLOGRAM
[10:13:30 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so this would mean, the whole in every part of nature is a hologram which provides us with an entirely new way of understanding organization and order
[10:13:34 AM] Tonyblue: your aspects ARE INDIVIDIUALITY
[10:13:42 AM] Tonyblue: YEP
[10:13:55 AM] Tonyblue: you are getting it let it sink in slowly
[10:14:22 AM] Tonyblue: All your life you have sought to identify yourself
[10:14:32 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so unlike taking a rose apart petal by petal, stem by stem
[10:14:34 AM] Tonyblue: as Isis as Vivienne as Isis whatever
[10:14:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: a hologram is different
[10:14:42 AM] Tonyblue: you are much bigger than that
[10:14:48 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: you can, only get a smaller , and, smaller or bigger; and; bigger version of it
[10:14:57 AM] Tonyblue: yes
[10:15:07 AM] Tonyblue: but what is a hologeram?
[10:15:17 AM] Tonyblue: one word a PHOTOGRAPH
[10:15:24 AM] Tonyblue: of the Cosmos ALL THAT IS
[10:15:38 AM] Tonyblue: including ALL personas
[10:15:49 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so, if you split an atom
[10:15:59 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, take one part to canada; and; keep one part in australia
[10:16:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: they can still communicate
[10:16:08 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or; be - one with all of it
[10:16:09 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[10:16:10 AM] Tonyblue: you can get smaller and smaller until you HIT and MEET the source
[10:16:16 AM] Ishtara Raven: YES your getting it susan
[10:16:22 AM] Tonyblue: yes
[10:16:40 AM] Tonyblue: Australia and Canada are ASPECTS of the same photograph
[10:16:49 AM] Tonyblue: like a map of the planetary surface
[10:17:06 AM] Tonyblue: UNDIVIDABLE
[10:17:14 AM] Tonyblue: as the photograph
[10:17:37 AM] Tonyblue: so you can cut the photo apart ,you cant the essence of the object as subject
[10:17:39 AM] Ishtara Raven: the one in the many and the many in the one
[10:17:48 AM] Tonyblue: the subject is Logos Cosmic Law
[10:17:55 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so is that an eidolons
[10:18:12 AM] Tonyblue: another label you found in some cosmology
[10:18:23 AM] Tonyblue: call it Susyessence and its the same thing
[10:18:40 AM] Ishtara Raven: susan, don't complicate this, its easy, stick with the hologram and you have it
[10:18:56 AM] Tonyblue: ENCOMPASS
your exchanges
[10:19:19 AM] Tonyblue: and you are the selfrealised goddess as the Cosmic Mother of All
[10:19:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: everything interpenetrates everything
[10:19:31 AM] Ishtara Raven: YES
[10:19:37 AM] Tonyblue: in the quantum energy yes
[10:19:40 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: is maybe a better way to keep it generitic
[10:19:47 AM] Tonyblue: this is what Cosmic LOVE is
[10:19:50 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: eidolons was a word i remember
[10:19:54 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: from reading it somewhere
[10:20:01 AM] Tonyblue: somewhere is who i am
[10:20:11 AM] Ishtara Raven: hehe
[10:20:14 AM] Tonyblue: All That is
[10:20:32 AM] Tonyblue: I can say this because I am a Mirror see
[10:20:48 AM] Tonyblue: WE Thubans are the Mirrors of the Logos AS the Omniversal Hologram
[10:20:56 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so, all of nature is ultimately a seamless web
[10:20:59 AM] Tonyblue: WE CAN DO IT as the PTB, the ptb cannot
[10:21:13 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes, i was thinking of the song you shared with Lola, lovely
[10:21:17 AM] Tonyblue: of course you knew this
[10:21:47 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: does this mean; even time, and, even space can not be viewed as fundemental
[10:21:49 AM] Tonyblue: Yes i am fond of her such a wild stubborn mule energy
[10:22:03 AM] Tonyblue: YES Susan they are emergent
[10:22:12 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes baby, and the webs you have been weaving encompass all, you instinctively know your entangled in it all
[10:22:20 AM] Tonyblue: the elementary is the Essence
[10:22:26 AM] Tonyblue: energy
[10:22:41 AM] Tonyblue: philosphers stone whatever LOVEFREQUENCY as wormhole
[10:22:59 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: Because concepts such as location break down in a universe in which nothing is truly separate from anything else, time and three-dimensional space
[10:23:02 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: which explains
[10:23:11 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: why some of us; can tap into holographic records of the past
[10:23:14 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; see them
[10:23:14 AM] Tonyblue: yes your beauty has always expressed itself in your weavings so often confused in details you had already woven
[10:23:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: on mental screens in our minds
[10:23:28 AM] Ishtara Raven: yep
[10:23:33 AM] Tonyblue: yes Susan
[10:23:42 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, why we NEVER leave anyone behind
[10:23:49 AM] Tonyblue: exactly
[10:23:50 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: we simply move up to meet up with their higher expressions
[10:23:56 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; fritz is still here
[10:24:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: even if 3D fritz; doesn't think he is
[10:24:08 AM] Tonyblue: its all a jigsaw puzzle fully painted but becoming edited asnd refioined
[10:24:10 AM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[10:24:20 AM] Tonyblue: lol
[10:24:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: hehehe - so; all the 3D fritz can do; is make a mute point; when he is NOT here
[10:24:29 AM] Tonyblue: Fritz is 3D like the rest of us
[10:24:35 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: although the higherD fritiz is always here
[10:24:51 AM] Tonyblue: lol
[10:25:10 AM] Tonyblue: Fritz is trying to blend with the Pleiadeans 9D
[10:25:16 AM] Tonyblue: its really 4d
[10:25:42 AM] Tonyblue: you must bust the timegates 4-7 to get to 9D
[10:25:47 AM] Tonyblue: its all astral atm
[10:26:21 AM] Tonyblue: so you CAN go 9D but this will be timetravel see and so become filtered in the NOW of 4D
[10:26:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i did it using the 4 flying fire places
[10:26:45 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: where i locked 4 - triads
[10:26:51 AM] Tonyblue: i3D incarnation DEMANDS individual filterings
[10:26:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or; 3 of the 4
[10:27:06 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; into the 4 of 4
[10:27:09 AM] Tonyblue: yes but ALL channelings is filtered
[10:27:18 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: although still; although i know the monad now/future
[10:27:21 AM] Tonyblue: only Inner Logos can go 12D
[10:27:27 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i also need to trulys tap into the essence of it all
[10:27:40 AM] Tonyblue: human mind cant because it must use filter of body
[10:27:45 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: at 7/8/9 and, 10/11(essence)/12
[10:28:01 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: low/mid/high causal - higher self/essence/monad
[10:28:13 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, through that; comes the central vertical chanel
[10:28:25 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i think; we use that - like a thing to 'tube travel' in
[10:28:40 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or 'walk between worlds' to incarnate, to walk in; and; walk out
[10:28:45 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or slide in/or slide out
[10:28:49 AM] Tonyblue: many complications all ok once you got the elementary
[10:29:02 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, we are , all of that 12/13 equation
[10:29:16 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: whether or not, we are awake to it, everyone holds the same potentials
[10:29:18 AM] Tonyblue: yes the tubes are the wormholes gates
[10:29:30 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: for eXchanging through the framework
[10:29:46 AM] Tonyblue: yes its a real matrix
[10:29:57 AM] Tonyblue: OF space and time and consciousness
[10:30:02 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; THE ORIGINAL SPARK (my term)
[10:30:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: is the matrix
[10:30:20 AM] Tonyblue: is the THING which MADE space and Time preciselty
[10:30:22 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: given to us; when we originally sparked
[10:30:28 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: in our eXistence
[10:30:40 AM] Tonyblue: BUST spacetime and you will find the Spark
[10:30:57 AM] Tonyblue: yes it was the Big bang in astrophysics
[10:31:10 AM] Ishtara Raven: afk a few, calling my mom, its her birthday today :)
[10:31:16 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: every configuration of matter and of energy that is possible
[10:31:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: holds within it, an original spark
[10:31:52 AM] Tonyblue: Yes 11th over there wish her HB from me raven
[10:32:08 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, all goes back to The Storehouse / or, at this time the 11D mirror
[10:32:20 AM] Tonyblue: yes Susan see this is the physics
[10:32:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so, does that mean
[10:32:39 AM] Tonyblue: because space and time can be miniaturised and this becomes this original spark
[10:32:44 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: that past/present/future, and, the pivot of now
[10:32:49 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: all exist at the same time?
[10:32:53 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: time
[10:33:10 AM] Tonyblue: yes in the NOW BUT only in the circularisation of the Original Spark
[10:33:36 AM] Tonyblue: the LINEAR Unfolding then makes the Movie of the Cosmic Life
[10:34:12 AM] Tonyblue: so you being incarnate in a body linearises and OPENS the Wormhole spark who you are AS the Cosmic Hologram
[10:34:35 AM] Tonyblue: YOU are a Wormhole Susan Pure LoveEnergy
[10:34:45 AM] Tonyblue: without a body
[10:35:00 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so anything is possible
[10:35:14 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: like the dream/and, the dreamer becoming one, and, the same
[10:35:17 AM] Tonyblue: your lives create memory banks which then make the wormhole grow as a singularity
[10:35:37 AM] Tonyblue: YOU are the Dreamer as the Wormhole collecting memories
[10:35:59 AM] Tonyblue: You are the Dreamt in playing the memories out and collecting new memories
[10:36:52 AM] Tonyblue: BUT YOU are @ 1 in BOTH Dreamer as All That Is and Dreamt as Susan the experience of yourself in REAL TIME
[10:37:04 AM] Tonyblue: 2 in 1
[10:37:06 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i see
[10:37:16 AM] Tonyblue: good
[10:37:40 AM] Tonyblue: if 'dead' you still keep the memories and databanks like a hard drive
[10:37:52 AM] Tonyblue: and can be switched on again with new software see
[10:38:03 AM] Tonyblue: or reset
[10:38:26 AM] Tonyblue: but the time has come where you dont have to wipe the hard drive any more forgetting your past
[10:38:36 AM] Tonyblue: this requires a new computer
[10:38:50 AM] Tonyblue: with new energy supply
[10:39:02 AM] Tonyblue: no one can switch the power off then
[10:39:10 AM] Tonyblue: lightbody
[10:39:38 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: absolutely
[10:39:39 AM] Tonyblue: this is LOGOS male+female in one
[10:39:44 AM] Tonyblue: second coming from inside out
[10:40:05 AM] Tonyblue: the lion to be eaten as a symbol
[10:40:12 AM] Tonyblue: the Sun
[10:40:15 AM] Tonyblue: a Star
[10:40:34 AM] Tonyblue: this Star will become your new energy source
[10:40:43 AM] Tonyblue: your new dragonheart invincible
[10:40:52 AM] Tonyblue: shining from within
[10:41:06 AM] Tonyblue: and never run out like stars outside
[10:41:11 AM] Tonyblue: Revelation 22
[10:41:19 AM] Tonyblue: THE END
[10:41:38 AM] Tonyblue: December 16th 2013 IN ARCHETYPE
[10:41:44 AM] Tonyblue: does not have to be physical;
[10:41:57 AM] Tonyblue: but all things are possible then as a NEW LAW exists
[10:42:16 AM] Tonyblue: Reconfiguration as Universe as a computer
[10:42:21 AM] Tonyblue: RESET
[10:42:26 AM] Tonyblue: ENTER
[10:42:28 AM] Tonyblue: DONE
[10:42:44 AM] Tonyblue: preps are under way
[10:43:13 AM] Tonyblue: SOFTWARE is being written BY US not the ptb
[10:43:22 AM] Tonyblue: WE are the PTB
[10:43:40 AM] Tonyblue: why they persecute and ban us see in little ways
[10:43:56 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i see that
[10:44:13 AM] Tonyblue: Its beyond personas, leaders, gurus, cults, systems of control
[10:44:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: power to be PTB
[10:44:23 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: ;)
[10:44:29 AM] Tonyblue: I second that
[10:45:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: potential totalised (in new) being
[10:45:10 AM] Tonyblue: good one
[10:45:32 AM] Tonyblue: smart sheila you are
[10:46:01 AM] Tonyblue: many times
[10:46:35 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: they are so busy
[10:46:41 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: not livng the real virtues of love
[10:46:49 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: without trust in their equations
[10:46:52 AM] Tonyblue: who humans?
[10:47:04 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: as, we said before; the inner circles will turn on the inner circle
[10:47:21 AM] Tonyblue: of course the holograms get bigger

[10:47:40 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: they also have wives/husbands, brothers/sisters, mother/fathers, aunts/uncles, cousins, necies/newphews - and, as, the truth starts to be known
[10:47:45 AM] Tonyblue: as long as the core exists it can only avalanche like a amoeba
[10:47:53 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: the fear - (of going to hell) (even if that is jsut a made-up place)
[10:48:01 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i've never found it
[10:48:09 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: although; i have walked through some firey paths
[10:48:12 AM] Tonyblue: its your own 3D body
THE13THBRIDGE
[10:48:26 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: is one thing; or teachings - they will wish they didn't teach
[10:48:35 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: something like; unconditional love
[10:48:39 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: everything has conditions
[10:48:41 AM] Tonyblue: once you have become Queen of Hell you will become ready for your 4D body
[10:48:48 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i think; unconditional love; is the greatest of lies
[10:49:10 AM] Tonyblue: if seen in 3D terms its utter BS
[10:49:29 AM] Tonyblue: 3D implies separation
[10:49:47 AM] Tonyblue: Unconditional implies Unified perceptions

[10:50:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i heard some places ice took down phone wires
[10:51:07 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: is there snow/and, ice
[10:51:10 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: unlike here
[10:51:14 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: we are structured for it
[10:51:20 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; we don't end up losing lines;
[10:51:33 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: they seem to be set for very high winds; and; weigh of snow/and, ice
[10:51:34 AM] Tonyblue: well here in Oz a third of the state is under water or flooded
[10:51:39 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: very likely; down there; you are NOT
[10:51:43 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: wow
[10:51:47 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: you are safe where you are
[10:51:50 AM] Tonyblue: watch tv
[10:51:56 AM] Tonyblue: it is all over the world
[10:52:04 AM] Tonyblue: QUEENSLAND
[10:52:05 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: didn't bill ryan say; it would be a safe place ?
[10:52:07 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: lol
[10:52:14 AM] Tonyblue: see the Gaian Awakening
[10:52:24 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: flooding isn't funny
[10:52:29 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: however; it often takes away
[10:52:32 AM] Tonyblue: it is Philadelphia in Rev
[10:52:34 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: peoples clutter
[10:52:43 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; they walk away much lighter
[10:52:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; insurance companies; bear the blunt of it
[10:53:02 AM] Tonyblue: all this is on the way out
[10:53:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: esp; for those with full replacement insurance
[10:53:23 AM] Tonyblue: Susan its the Aquarian transition
[10:53:25 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: are you in an area that floods
[10:53:32 AM] Tonyblue: 1974-2013
[10:53:37 AM] Tonyblue: yes
[10:53:42 AM] Tonyblue: east coast
[10:54:00 AM] Tonyblue: the 38 years of the Logos remember centered on 1998
[10:54:24 AM] Tonyblue: Life of Jesus on earth 6BC to 33AD
[10:54:34 AM] Tonyblue: timewarp
[10:54:46 AM] Tonyblue: 1974-2013
[10:55:05 AM] Tonyblue: I am near Canberra the capital
[10:55:18 AM] Tonyblue: NEW SOUTH WALES
[10:55:32 AM] Tonyblue: Queanbeyan
[10:55:41 AM] Tonyblue: Karabar=Akbar ra
[10:55:55 AM] Tonyblue: The Sirian starship
[10:56:11 AM] Tonyblue: dont tell psst lol
[10:56:24 AM] Tonyblue: Akbar Ra=Karabar
[10:57:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; he lived to be 39
[10:57:22 AM] Tonyblue: The Great Flood of Brisbane (capital of Queensland) was 1974
[10:57:28 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: into his 40th year
[10:57:35 AM] Tonyblue: no he is eternal
[10:57:48 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: physically; there is another 40 year
[10:57:52 AM] Tonyblue: his birthday is march 6 BC
[10:58:16 AM] Tonyblue: resurrection April 1st, 31 AD but then interaction until 33 AD
[10:58:44 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i see
[10:58:55 AM] Tonyblue: so then Oz built the Wivenhoe Dam to stop any such great flood reoccurring
[10:59:01 AM] Tonyblue: Now the dam is breaking
[10:59:19 AM] Tonyblue: its 2011 from 1974 see
[10:59:28 AM] Tonyblue: 2011=31 AD
[10:59:42 AM] Tonyblue: its perfect synchro in the timewarp
[10:59:51 AM] Tonyblue: watch the news
[11:00:03 AM] Tonyblue: Queensland Flood in Australia
[11:00:11 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i wonder
[11:00:22 AM] Tonyblue: fulfils all the prophecies of Noah

Didymos Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:09 pm

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Re: Introspection

Didymos Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:09 pm

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